This better be good.. I just purchased my tickets to this for Sunday at 11:00 while out finding some good fast food latenight since I'm off work.. So far, I've watched some dumbass movie you all recommended title "(REC)" which is supposed to be better than the movie QUARANTINE that many of you ripped on citing that (REC) was better.. Well, it was ASS and will find out whether DISTRICT-9 is as good as you say.. I'll smoke some high dollar $$$$ Weed before I see it to enhance the movie..
Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:23 am
zingy
College Boy Z
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Re: District 9
^ lol
I didn't spot that scene with the "ring". Oh well. Still great.
Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:17 am
Michael A
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Re: District 9
Biggestgeekever wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
Biggestgeekever wrote:
Saw it for a second time, and loyal is right, it's even better when you're not completely blindsided. I think it's now my favorite film of the year.
BTW, did anyone else catch the One Ring easter egg thrown in?
When Christopher gets back to the mothership, he activates the hologram that shows all the galaxies. In roughly the middle the ring is floating as clear as day. Pretty nifty I thought.
um, what? I can make no sense out of this.
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You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself.
Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
You know what's annoying? When people don't like a movie, automatically they say it's over-rated... Maybe you can explain it by saying you can't appreciate it's greatness?
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:15 pm
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Re: District 9
I was greatly anticipating this film, and I was not let down. This film is constantly intense and suspenseful up until the very end; despite its cliche moments, the originality shines in the film. I'm not a big sci-fi fan, but this film was excellently done.
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Re: District 9
Sheesh!!!! District 9 is just a blatant rip-off of reality...
...but a what a brilliant rip-off/allegory it is! Not many movies funded by our dear corporate overlords are allowed to be this damn subversive!
YOW!!!
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But right now, just this moment, I'm still reeling from the fact that I have just seen 20% of my 2009 Top Ten Movies on one single solitary day...
August 16th, 2009
...on that day, I was graced with seeing District 9, the latest dystopian masterpiece... and then earlier that same day I saw the latest work of art by the ultimate living master of the cinematic form, Hiyao Miyazaki. Ponyo barely needs to be mentioned in relation to my annual list, because it has vaulted into contention for my Lifetime Top Ten Movies list.
{Please pause just now for several months for a period of deep reflection before continuing to read this thread...}
Amazing that this is even showing in Idiocracy theatres, you'd think most people would be immune to the political puppet show, to our decades old media hypnosis - - but it's really more than that...
District 9 is nothing short of the histale of the entirety of the human species.
District 9 is humanity verbatim ad infinitum.
out of
Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:40 am
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Re: District 9
ChipMunky wrote:
How vague of you.
Read my reviews for Bandslam, TTTW, and The Goods and then tell me how vague I am. Thank you!
Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:05 pm
Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Re: District 9
Sublime slice of Sci-Fi. I want one of those Alien "turn humans into curry" guns immediately!
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:30 pm
Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
Re: District 9
sublime sounds bad but it means excellent. how confusing.
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Mr. R wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself.
Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:27 pm
STEVE ROGERS
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Re: District 9
Seeing this at 12:20 PM today.. I had tickets for the 11:30 am showing yesterday but slept right through it after being up all night working.. Hard going to the movies after being up all night working and trying to stay awake..
Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:03 am
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Re: District 9
It was quite a good movie actually. I'd forgotten the synopsis and trailer so I went it with a WTH is this about? But, yeah, it was well done and worthy of the praise it is currently getting. Current grade stands at an A. It was a gritty movie, really. Some cliches, but forgivable and whole experience is pretty enjoyable.
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:48 am
STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Re: District 9
So I just returned from the 12:25 showing and I'll say this: This is a movie that is NOT very female friendly.. In a 150 seat auditorium, we had 12 guys and 2 women.. 2 people walked out mid way through the movie which I could sort of understand if you have a weak stomach.. The basic breakdown of the movie is our assumed hero or correspondent named "Wikkus" works for a Government agency known as MWU and are in charge of evicting the aliens from an area dubbed District-9.. Along the way, Wikkus is rummaging through some shit in some piss poor crap of a shelter that aliens live in in search of weaponry.. As he's fucking around loking for weaponry, he uncovers a canister and is ultimately sprayed with Alien DNA which subsequently causes him to slowly morph into an Alien and thus develops compassion for them and plays a game of "You help me, I'll help you" referring to an Alien he interacts with known only as "Christopher" as he tries to help Christopher and his Alien son return to the Mothership to go home...
How were humans able to understand Alien language to communicate with one another?? It's never really made clear in the movie..
For not having been to the movies in a year, this was pretty good that gave both kick ass action with the weaponry when finally used in the last 1/2 hour of the movie going so far as to practically vaporize people and splatter their brains all over.. It was a movie that you weren't sure which side to root for: The Aliens or the humans.. I guess my only criticism is was that it slowed down half way through the movie that made me nod once or twice, but I would see this again on DVD but probably not again in theatres mainly for the 7 trailers they showed which felt like it'd never end...
If we couldn't decipher the language after 20 years then there is something wrong with the Universe
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:52 pm
Box
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Re: District 9
I just watched the film today.
I have several reservations about it, some of which are fundamentally unfair if taken as judgment values against the film (they are not). But overall, this was a thrilling viewing experience.
The film is utterly disgusting. It's quite shameless and flippant in its dissection-oftentimes literally so-of the alien and human body, to an increasingly meaningless effect.
One of the most persistent problems with representations of violence on the screen (any screen) is that an increase in the violence and gruesomeness, unless masterly managed, results in numbness, desentization, and therefore in indifference. I know this is an obvious point. I think the violence in this film is so overdone that the aliens are dispossessed of all dignity. You cannot feel anything for pieces of flesh. The whole narrative involving the alien father and son seemed so utterly contrived to me, as did the one involving the main human character and his wife. Who cares if these pieces of jumbled flesh live on for another day or not? It's not as if anyone can accuse them of possessing an identity.
I was deeply offended by that brief moment where the voiceover mentions "interspecies sex" while a beautiful black woman is shown on screen (the interspecies bullshit could not be more unnecessary to the film overall plot. So useless). Even in a fucking socially conscious sci-fi film, women get the short end of it. There are no female characters in the film. The protagonist's wife is a stock figure, nothing more, and apparently, there are no women in any positions of power in the military or government in this supposedly diverse South Africa. As the film dragged on, it felt more and more like a film made by a bitter adolescent male who has read Existentialist philosophical works and has watched footage of Nazi death camps and rioting in Apartheid townships and elsewhere and feels the injustice but has no understanding of the functions of the human heart. There is no pity in this film, no compassion.
Two added notes: 1) Films that are critical of corporate greed are always hypocritical, by necessity. Few commodities will be as financially viable this year as this film will be, given its box office success. 2) Films about otherness that establish parallels between real-life human Others and non-human fictional Others inevitably risk being re-read as supportive of the very ideologies they wish to criticize. A bigot might go to this film, watch it, and come out thinking that his or her perception of the people he dislikes has been, in some way, validated because here you have, by association, an espousal of the notion that the Other is indeed a completely alien thing, that any contact with it is tantamount to treason and will divorce you from proper humanity. The protagonist turns into an alien and must reside among them, much like any person in America who was not purely white was shunned as being among the "Black folks." But that's not really a criticism of the film, or rather, a fair criticism, since it merely suggests what is true of any film: that its meaning is never wholly given by the filmmaker, but produced in cooperation with an audience that might read something entirely different into the work.
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MadGez wrote:
Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation.
You know what's annoying? When people don't like a movie, automatically they say it's over-rated... Maybe you can explain it by saying you can't appreciate it's greatness?
Even though Box is usually wrong in his view points, I love reading them. Quite fascinating!
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:32 am
Bradley Witherberry
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Re: District 9
Box wrote:
Films that are critical of corporate greed are always hypocritical, by necessity. Few commodities will be as financially viable this year as this film will be, given its box office success.
Wrong.
(...but what delightfully fancy language you use!)
Jesus Christ wrote:
Goktor Who wrote:
Sorry for late review, but I liked it too much to let the thread rest undisturbed!
Two weeks ago, I walked out of District 9 feeling elated, since I was convinced that I had just witnessed the "completion" of science fiction. Not in terms of sci-fi cinema, but in terms of the genre itself. Wing Commander, Dune, Space Invaders, Red Mars... you name it; I felt that it had all been a dry run for District 9.
In retrospect, that might be a bit much but I mention it as an indication of how thoroughly I enjoyed this film, and just how hyped-up I was when I left the cinema.
In the cold light of day, a lot of the story seems seriously hokey. The implausible plot points and sequel-baiting finale, nine times out of ten, would have been a deal breaker for me. The human-shaped prawns, admittedly, weren't as bad as the blue guys out of the Avatar trailer, but giving them recognisable father/son-style relationships should have lost me. In fact, now that the buzz has worn off, it's almost hard for me to believe just how impressed and engaged I was during the film, since (on paper at least) it's common-or-garden sci-fi.
However, I have still given it an A, since that's the only sincere mark I can give it. In fact, it's in my all-time top ten. I don't find it hard to justify this to myself, because at the end of the day, the heart wants what the heart wants. Very few other films have astonished and affected me this much.
Ultimately, it isn't the narrative that makes District 9 special, so the plot holes aren't about to sink the boat. The grist of the film is the astonishing lead performance, which elevates sci-fi staples from The Fly, Enemy Mine, and even - I'm thinking of the alien weapons and immigration angle here - parts of Men in Black to the level of superb cinema. I'm not a "crier", but I teetered on the edge of tears at the giant robot suit scene towards the end. Equally, I had a lump in my throat during the much earlier (technically fairly silly) weapons test, and that's purely because of Sharlto Copley's performance ("no sir, I will not"). The emotional punch stuns you to the point where you are unlikely to think, "Why don't they just chop the alien's hands off and use them to operate the guns, if it's about the DNA?" - or even, returning to the first example, "Wow, how cheesy is a giant robot suit?"
It's not a con. I don't mean to suggest that the emotional journey distracts you from otherwise fatal plot holes. It's simply that the film is the emotional journey. Watching District 9 for a watertight narrative is like watching Eraserhead for the acting. It's simply not what the film is about.
Ebert complained that, "despite its creativity," District 9 "remains space opera and avoids the higher realms of science-fiction." He thinks that the third act is "standard shoot-out action." He's missed the point. The success of the film is proving that space opera and standard shoot-out action, when directed properly and acted well, can be as emotionally rich as anything else you care to mention. Compare and contrast with "standard shoot-out action" like Transformers 2, Independence Day, or War of the Worlds. Neill Blomkamp and Sharlto Copley between them have raised b-movie subject matter to the level of great cinema. So ultimately, I'm not going to lose any sleep over how the ship remained airborne for twenty years.
I just hope they don't make the sequel they've been hinting at. In fact, if I absolutely had to criticise something about this film, it would be the fact that it ends in a kind of expectant limbo. I don't want to take a gamble on a sequel to get closure. The universe of District 9 isn't coherant enough to survive being extended into a trilogy.
By the way - judging from my peer group, this film has struck a chord with people who don't give a crap about sci-fi.
i didn't read your review but i think you are lying.
that said, i think the movie has still not been censored and only god knows why, but he will only tell me if i ask him and i won't because i'm busy right now. i'm drinking lemonade and typing this mesage so please god, don't interrupt me with my wishes because i'm very busy don't you thjink? BY THE WAY i hope that this movie will not win an oscar for any catergory such as best movie of all time or best schraubenzieher because it does not deserve it. it only deserves to be banned from the cinema in peru because they cannot show it completely because their screen was covered with daddy long legs, a whole living wall of daddy long legs, crawling like a carpet across the screen and therefore it (the movie) cannot be shown there because you would only be able to see half of it and we, the people of toronto, don't want this to happen because the movie is short. and of course one time the movie will be seen in the imax theater by many kids andthey will appear and cheer but that day the cinema will close because it cannot handle the noise, the neighbors called the police and said "HEY, MISTER, THEY ARE TOO FUCKIN' LOUD, IT IS ALMOST AS LOUD AS IN THE POMMESBUD WHEN THE OIL SPRINKLES VERY LOUD IN THE FRITTOISE! COME HERE AND STOP THEM WITH YOUR POLICE POWER FORCE AND WITH YOUR STICKS WE CANNOT HEAR OUR OWN WORDS OF HONOR WE WERE WATCHING TV, THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN STARRING LEE MAJORS AS THE BIONIC SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN (by the way six million dollar would not be enough for bionic equipment these days, it's alot more pricey now, probably even 6 billion) AND THEY WERE SO LOUD WE COULD NOT HEAR THE SOUND OF LEE MAJORS RUNNING IN SLOW MOTION WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EXTREMELY FAST, THE ECHO WHOOSH SOUND SO TO SPEAK, SO COME HERE AND ARREST THEM ALL AND CLOSE THE CINEMA OR WE WILL CALL THE POLICE!", and then the police came in an ambulance (don't know why it was probably a trick) and officer marshmoses will step out of the car and SCREAM "HEY KIDS, COME ON OR YOU WILL BE RAPED" and then he holds up a puppet with the big penis and the kids will be scared and run to aserbaidjan, where they are shot by the military police led by yusuf marmeladesjan, but that's another story, they kids are shot and the cinema is closed by marshmoses and his gang of rapists and THEREFORE i think that the movie should be banned from theaters because this shall never happen again, neither in this world nor in any other, such as the moon, vega or hcoasdln.
I gotta tell ya, District 9 really surprised me in it's relationship to outmoded political thought too! Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the theatre, I ended up being bombarded with neo-classical existentialistic crap like this. Even though I saw it over a month ago now, in the distant twinkle of August, it only just now came to me as I was walking down the boulevard next to my local coffee shop. The depths to which the director sinks here is a monument narcisstic ennui! To say that it's an underestimate of the verity of this scenario, is itself an underestimation - - it is Kubrickian in it's misrepresentation of the reality herein involved. And then, didn't I go and dig into an underutilized corner of my cortex and find a nugget of unvarnished you-whotitude. It was there waiting to be discovered and I only just realized that the scope of this picture is modelled on the original schema of The Maltese Falcon (not the Humphrey Bogart version). It is all laid clear for anyone with half a wit of sense to see - - the origin of subconscious wishes, the foundation of alien tropes, the roots of science fiction weather representations on extra-solar planets - - Yep! - - it's a monumental ironic coup... If only if all films were this transparent in their drive for goodness and light. What a world we'd share! But I digress, I must return to the main thrust of my missive: the shocking manner in which District 9 was purveyed upon an unsuspecting public. Honestly, it's just madness that such a travesty is permitted in our so-called free society. Why would the producers receive permission from the theatre companies to purportedly screen their product unseen? Who was in charge of this? Why did it slip by the corporate media watchdogs? Where were the interests of the powerless in our democratic society? When will the retribution ever commence?
It all certainly bears witness to the fact that logic has become an outmoded means of reasoning nowadays. It is situations like this District 9 debacle which illuminate the background and allow the foreground to drop to the literal ground. It is a shining example of hierarchy debunked and deflowered in the cause of a wisdomectomy. We shall henceforth walk forward with pride and hope for the future mornings when we shall be free to saunter, nay lope towards the rising sun of certitude. We will take wing as a flock of true believers and fly the seemingly random patterns of the predator escaping species we have become. Not until the last telephone wire, nor the last fiberoptic communication cable have been sullied will we rest. This is a clarion call to action to everyone who has seen District 9 - - do not be misled - - this is the time to move! Resort to retort, if need be. Don't allow yourself or your compatriots to be silenced. Speak, whether you have been spoken to or not. Reply globally. Bring your words to the table and speak with your mouth full. It's not rude when it's in the service of a cause as critical as the one before us all. Send forth thy vowels and consonants in a neverending flow that shall rise to be a tidal wave of verbiage! Talk the talk...
Without this type of resolve, this problem will only fester and continue to get worse until we have to amputate the withered limb. But if worse comes to worst, be strong and bite down on the proffered wad of cloth, while the surgeon goes about his work. For even then shall we hobble forth in our righteous quest. If need be, we will drag forward our devastated remains in a neverending crawl towards ultimate victory.
Rest no more, fellow KJer's - - don't let this District 9 situation be repeated ad infinitum with future film enthusiasts. Without us all focusing our psychic energy on the goal before us, we will perish. It is the final turtle in the stack. One false move and it all topples. Keep your balance and we will all be the upright citizens that we know we can be in the perfect World of King James. Fight the good fight, dig in your heals, and go with the flow-ers.
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:59 am
Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
Re: District 9
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Box wrote:
Films that are critical of corporate greed are always hypocritical, by necessity. Few commodities will be as financially viable this year as this film will be, given its box office success.
Wrong.
(...but what delightfully fancy language you use!)
I believe Box is using the "How to discredit the rhetoric of Rage Against The Machine" line. I'm afraid thats the first review I have read from you Boxy where I disagree with almost every point.
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But that's not really a criticism of the film, or rather, a fair criticism, since it merely suggests what is true of any film: that its meaning is never wholly given by the filmmaker, but produced in cooperation with an audience that might read something entirely different into the work.
I'm glad Makeshift isn't here right now!
Also you mention the supposedly diverse South Africa as if you are unaware of the fact its a rather corrupt shell of the old Mandela idealism. And who is to say the Alien father is not also a type of female, in fact the aliens seem to be utterly sexless considering you never see them engage in any type of sexual act (bar the photoshop picture where they are receiving rather then giving so to speak) and their appears to be a lack of identifiable genitalia. Dare I say it is Alien racism on display Boxy!
I never found the violence numbing at any point either simply because of the utterly destructive nature of it tends to overload the human brains ability to compartmentalise. Movies have to a certain degree trivialised "mundane" death like shotgun but when I see somebody or some alien on screen literally explode like a firecracker the massive punch of it is just impossible to ignore.
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Others inevitably risk being re-read as supportive of the very ideologies they wish to criticize. A bigot might go to this film, watch it, and come out thinking that his or her perception of the people he dislikes has been, in some way, validated because here you have, by association, an espousal of the notion that the Other is indeed a completely alien thing
I'm afraid I consider that criticism to be abit of a cop out. You are using vague terms in an attempt to make the statement correct by proxy. I mean if I wanted I could take this statement and say The Shawshank Redemption re-affirms that all black men are dangerous criminals since Red spent 40 years inside. Or that Die Hard showed Americans can never trust evil Europeans...................ok I'm taking the piss with that one abit but still!
If you pushed me for criticism's I found the entire Nigerian voodoo black magic angle to be rather silly. Plus the main player says fookin hell way to much!
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:33 am
Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Re: District 9
For anybody who enjoyed the Action scenes in D9 this is an interesting video, very similar in style I think. Made for only $500 if you can believe it.
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:48 am
Box
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Re: District 9
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Box wrote:
Films that are critical of corporate greed are always hypocritical, by necessity. Few commodities will be as financially viable this year as this film will be, given its box office success.
Wrong.
(...but what delightfully fancy language you use!)
Apparently there's already a sequel planned for this film. Any chance that has to do with the money this film is making?
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MadGez wrote:
Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation.
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Re: District 9
Box wrote:
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Box wrote:
Films that are critical of corporate greed are always hypocritical, by necessity. Few commodities will be as financially viable this year as this film will be, given its box office success.
Wrong.
(...but what delightfully fancy language you use!)
Apparently there's already a sequel planned for this film. Any chance that has to do with the money this film is making?
Let's recap:
All financially viable films are hypocritical examples of corporate greed regardless of their message.
Jesus Christ wrote:
Goktor Who wrote:
Sorry for late review, but I liked it too much to let the thread rest undisturbed!
Two weeks ago, I walked out of District 9 feeling elated, since I was convinced that I had just witnessed the "completion" of science fiction. Not in terms of sci-fi cinema, but in terms of the genre itself. Wing Commander, Dune, Space Invaders, Red Mars... you name it; I felt that it had all been a dry run for District 9.
In retrospect, that might be a bit much but I mention it as an indication of how thoroughly I enjoyed this film, and just how hyped-up I was when I left the cinema.
In the cold light of day, a lot of the story seems seriously hokey. The implausible plot points and sequel-baiting finale, nine times out of ten, would have been a deal breaker for me. The human-shaped prawns, admittedly, weren't as bad as the blue guys out of the Avatar trailer, but giving them recognisable father/son-style relationships should have lost me. In fact, now that the buzz has worn off, it's almost hard for me to believe just how impressed and engaged I was during the film, since (on paper at least) it's common-or-garden sci-fi.
However, I have still given it an A, since that's the only sincere mark I can give it. In fact, it's in my all-time top ten. I don't find it hard to justify this to myself, because at the end of the day, the heart wants what the heart wants. Very few other films have astonished and affected me this much.
Ultimately, it isn't the narrative that makes District 9 special, so the plot holes aren't about to sink the boat. The grist of the film is the astonishing lead performance, which elevates sci-fi staples from The Fly, Enemy Mine, and even - I'm thinking of the alien weapons and immigration angle here - parts of Men in Black to the level of superb cinema. I'm not a "crier", but I teetered on the edge of tears at the giant robot suit scene towards the end. Equally, I had a lump in my throat during the much earlier (technically fairly silly) weapons test, and that's purely because of Sharlto Copley's performance ("no sir, I will not"). The emotional punch stuns you to the point where you are unlikely to think, "Why don't they just chop the alien's hands off and use them to operate the guns, if it's about the DNA?" - or even, returning to the first example, "Wow, how cheesy is a giant robot suit?"
It's not a con. I don't mean to suggest that the emotional journey distracts you from otherwise fatal plot holes. It's simply that the film is the emotional journey. Watching District 9 for a watertight narrative is like watching Eraserhead for the acting. It's simply not what the film is about.
Ebert complained that, "despite its creativity," District 9 "remains space opera and avoids the higher realms of science-fiction." He thinks that the third act is "standard shoot-out action." He's missed the point. The success of the film is proving that space opera and standard shoot-out action, when directed properly and acted well, can be as emotionally rich as anything else you care to mention. Compare and contrast with "standard shoot-out action" like Transformers 2, Independence Day, or War of the Worlds. Neill Blomkamp and Sharlto Copley between them have raised b-movie subject matter to the level of great cinema. So ultimately, I'm not going to lose any sleep over how the ship remained airborne for twenty years.
I just hope they don't make the sequel they've been hinting at. In fact, if I absolutely had to criticise something about this film, it would be the fact that it ends in a kind of expectant limbo. I don't want to take a gamble on a sequel to get closure. The universe of District 9 isn't coherant enough to survive being extended into a trilogy.
By the way - judging from my peer group, this film has struck a chord with people who don't give a crap about sci-fi.
i didn't read your review but i think you are lying.
that said, i think the movie has still not been censored and only god knows why, but he will only tell me if i ask him and i won't because i'm busy right now. i'm drinking lemonade and typing this mesage so please god, don't interrupt me with my wishes because i'm very busy don't you thjink? BY THE WAY i hope that this movie will not win an oscar for any catergory such as best movie of all time or best schraubenzieher because it does not deserve it. it only deserves to be banned from the cinema in peru because they cannot show it completely because their screen was covered with daddy long legs, a whole living wall of daddy long legs, crawling like a carpet across the screen and therefore it (the movie) cannot be shown there because you would only be able to see half of it and we, the people of toronto, don't want this to happen because the movie is short. and of course one time the movie will be seen in the imax theater by many kids andthey will appear and cheer but that day the cinema will close because it cannot handle the noise, the neighbors called the police and said "HEY, MISTER, THEY ARE TOO FUCKIN' LOUD, IT IS ALMOST AS LOUD AS IN THE POMMESBUD WHEN THE OIL SPRINKLES VERY LOUD IN THE FRITTOISE! COME HERE AND STOP THEM WITH YOUR POLICE POWER FORCE AND WITH YOUR STICKS WE CANNOT HEAR OUR OWN WORDS OF HONOR WE WERE WATCHING TV, THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN STARRING LEE MAJORS AS THE BIONIC SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN (by the way six million dollar would not be enough for bionic equipment these days, it's alot more pricey now, probably even 6 billion) AND THEY WERE SO LOUD WE COULD NOT HEAR THE SOUND OF LEE MAJORS RUNNING IN SLOW MOTION WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EXTREMELY FAST, THE ECHO WHOOSH SOUND SO TO SPEAK, SO COME HERE AND ARREST THEM ALL AND CLOSE THE CINEMA OR WE WILL CALL THE POLICE!", and then the police came in an ambulance (don't know why it was probably a trick) and officer marshmoses will step out of the car and SCREAM "HEY KIDS, COME ON OR YOU WILL BE RAPED" and then he holds up a puppet with the big penis and the kids will be scared and run to aserbaidjan, where they are shot by the military police led by yusuf marmeladesjan, but that's another story, they kids are shot and the cinema is closed by marshmoses and his gang of rapists and THEREFORE i think that the movie should be banned from theaters because this shall never happen again, neither in this world nor in any other, such as the moon, vega or hcoasdln.
I gotta tell ya, District 9 really surprised me in it's relationship to outmoded political thought too! Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the theatre, I ended up being bombarded with neo-classical existentialistic crap like this. Even though I saw it over a month ago now, in the distant twinkle of August, it only just now came to me as I was walking down the boulevard next to my local coffee shop. The depths to which the director sinks here is a monument narcisstic ennui! To say that it's an underestimate of the verity of this scenario, is itself an underestimation - - it is Kubrickian in it's misrepresentation of the reality herein involved. And then, didn't I go and dig into an underutilized corner of my cortex and find a nugget of unvarnished you-whotitude. It was there waiting to be discovered and I only just realized that the scope of this picture is modelled on the original schema of The Maltese Falcon (not the Humphrey Bogart version). It is all laid clear for anyone with half a wit of sense to see - - the origin of subconscious wishes, the foundation of alien tropes, the roots of science fiction weather representations on extra-solar planets - - Yep! - - it's a monumental ironic coup... If only if all films were this transparent in their drive for goodness and light. What a world we'd share! But I digress, I must return to the main thrust of my missive: the shocking manner in which District 9 was purveyed upon an unsuspecting public. Honestly, it's just madness that such a travesty is permitted in our so-called free society. Why would the producers receive permission from the theatre companies to purportedly screen their product unseen? Who was in charge of this? Why did it slip by the corporate media watchdogs? Where were the interests of the powerless in our democratic society? When will the retribution ever commence?
It all certainly bears witness to the fact that logic has become an outmoded means of reasoning nowadays. It is situations like this District 9 debacle which illuminate the background and allow the foreground to drop to the literal ground. It is a shining example of hierarchy debunked and deflowered in the cause of a wisdomectomy. We shall henceforth walk forward with pride and hope for the future mornings when we shall be free to saunter, nay lope towards the rising sun of certitude. We will take wing as a flock of true believers and fly the seemingly random patterns of the predator escaping species we have become. Not until the last telephone wire, nor the last fiberoptic communication cable have been sullied will we rest. This is a clarion call to action to everyone who has seen District 9 - - do not be misled - - this is the time to move! Resort to retort, if need be. Don't allow yourself or your compatriots to be silenced. Speak, whether you have been spoken to or not. Reply globally. Bring your words to the table and speak with your mouth full. It's not rude when it's in the service of a cause as critical as the one before us all. Send forth thy vowels and consonants in a neverending flow that shall rise to be a tidal wave of verbiage! Talk the talk...
Without this type of resolve, this problem will only fester and continue to get worse until we have to amputate the withered limb. But if worse comes to worst, be strong and bite down on the proffered wad of cloth, while the surgeon goes about his work. For even then shall we hobble forth in our righteous quest. If need be, we will drag forward our devastated remains in a neverending crawl towards ultimate victory.
Rest no more, fellow KJer's - - don't let this District 9 situation be repeated ad infinitum with future film enthusiasts. Without us all focusing our psychic energy on the goal before us, we will perish. It is the final turtle in the stack. One false move and it all topples. Keep your balance and we will all be the upright citizens that we know we can be in the perfect World of King James. Fight the good fight, dig in your heals, and go with the flow-ers.
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