This thread will be dedicated to my long-time friend and Avatar-crazy fan, Nazgul9

**Coming Soon***

I'm at a loss of words...

This will be the first movie showing in 3D in Egypt. It will be big.

Am i wrong in thinking this could be big ni Japan? The design of the world has somewhat of that aesthethic sensibility the japanese seem to dig, imho.

I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop.

Or somewhere in-between.

"From the Director of Titanic"


Put that in the trailer, and $100m+ is guaranteed in Japan.

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It has a higher chance to excel than flop i think. The sci-fi and disaster themes plays better in Japan than pre-history (King Kong).

War of the Worlds afterall, as bad as it is, made more than $60m in Japan. Artificial Intelligence with Spielberg's name made more than $100m.

I see Avatar grossing at least $80m in the Christmas season, normally a very big season with almost every movie doing well. The Potters have opened over this timeframe before so to have Nemo and Monority Report both $100m+ grossers...

Real prediction is $120m-$140m with Cameron's name and a great release date. It's closest tracking partner is probably Minority Report.

BOM has Minority Report as grossing $42m in Japan?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... report.htm

I also thought that A.I. grossed something like $70m-80m, rather than $100m+.

Oh I'm sorry, mistaken Minority Report for The Last Samurai

You may be right about AI, it was very high though.

Top movies in Japan....the ones highlighted have a sci-fi element.

Spirited Away $234,000,000
Titanic $219,500,000 (16.8m adms.)
Hauru No Ugoku Shiro (Howl’s Moving Castle) - $188m
Harry Potter 1: PS - $170,100,000
Bayside Shakedown 2 $164.45m (12.7m adms.)
Ponyo On The Cliff By The Sea (2008) - $164,241,290
Harry Potter 2: COS - $164m
Princess Mononoke $156,000,000
E.T. $145,000,000
Armageddon $140,000,000
The Last Samurai – $133,000,000 (13.7b Yen)
Harry Potter 3: POA - $131m (13.5b Yen)
Jurassic Park 1 - $125,500,000
The Phantom Menace - $109,905,784 (12.7b Yen)
Finding Nemo - $106.8m (11b Yen)
Matrix Reloaded $104.3m
Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $100.2m (10.3b Yen)
Independence Day $92,000,000
Harry Potter 4: GOF - $91.5m
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $91,119,039
Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $88m
Terminator 2 $87,000,000
Rookies (2009) - $85,134,450 (10)
Back to the Future 2 $83,600,000
Mission Impossible 2 - $82,900,000
Star Wars 3: ROTS - $82,698,529
Crying Out For Love - $82.5m
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $80,564,009
Monsters, Inc. $79,400,000
The Da Vinci Code - $79,343,641 (9.05bn Yen)
Artificial Intelligence - $79,300,000
Star Wars 2: AOTC - $78,182,528
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $77.7m
Jaws - $76,000,000
Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $74.9m
Hero (2007) - $73,109,846
Spider-man - $73m
The Matrix $71,000,000

Where did you get the numbers for T2 and Armaggedon?
Over on BOM tyrannyreborn has posted many all time charts, including Japan:
http://boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=78302
He is missing those two movies, so if you can help him update his chart...
(In any case those are amazing charts. I suppose you may also have some similar ones? )

While one might expect scifi and robot movies to do really well in Japan, on average they don't really do any better there than the rest of the world. And American movies have been doing pretty weak in Japan in general over the last couple of years. For some reason their market has become heavily dependent on local movies. It's one of the really strange developments in the the international market, I can't figure out why it has happened.

Eh, Avatar will be huge in the UK.

We are suckers for 3-D at the moment. My Bloody Valentine 3-D was the biggest horror hit in years here in January.

Plus, i think UK was Titanics biggest international market??

I'm actually hyped up for this film. I can't wait to see a trailer though.


August 21st someone said?

nah that was japan i think

I do for some of the major markets....you can pass the figures on to tyrannyreborn for me....i no longer remember my account on BOM. Tyrannyreborn used to post on WOKJ, though I think he left to chase bigger waters

It's not even Top 3

Japan 12/20/97 $201,389,568
Germany 1/8/98 $129,974,110
France and Algeria, Monaco, Morocco and Tunisia 1/7/98 $129,127,181
United Kingdom and Ireland and Malta 1/23/98 $114,063,718
Brazil 1/16/98 $70,460,123
Italy 1/16/98 $67,953,353

Wow. That list he has going is really awesome and informative. Looks pretty accurate for the most part, too.

Romania has the most bizare top 20 of them all.

Travesty I tell yah

I know, it's fantastic...good resource.

2 words!

TITANIC, THE MUSICAL!

ok 3 words.

1 Titanic Par. $1,842.9 $600.8 32.6% $1,242.1 67.4% 1997
2 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $1,119.1 $377.0 33.7% $742.1 66.3% 2003
3 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $1,066.2 $423.3 39.7% $642.9 60.3% 2006
4 The Dark Knight WB $1,001.9 $533.3 53.2% $468.6 46.8% 2008
5 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $974.7 $317.6 32.6% $657.2 67.4% 2001
6 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End BV $961.0 $309.4 32.2% $651.6 67.8% 2007
7 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $938.2 $292.0 31.1% $646.2 68.9% 2007
8 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers NL $925.3 $341.8 36.9% $583.5 63.1% 2002^
9 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace Fox $924.3 $431.1 46.6% $493.2 53.4% 1999
10 Shrek 2 DW $919.8 $441.2 48.0% $478.6 52.0% 2004
11 Jurassic Park Uni. $914.7 $357.1 39.0% $557.6 61.0% 1993
12 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $895.9 $290.0 32.4% $605.9 67.6% 2005
13 Spider-Man 3 Sony $890.9 $336.5 37.8% $554.3 62.2% 2007
14 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $886.0 $290.2 32.8% $595.8 67.2% 2009
15 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets WB $878.6 $262.0 29.8% $616.7 70.2% 2002
16 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring NL $870.8 $314.8 36.1% $556.0 63.9% 2001^
17 Finding Nemo BV $864.6 $339.7 39.3% $524.9 60.7% 2003
18 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Fox $848.8 $380.3 44.8% $468.5 55.2% 2005
19 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $826.6 $398.4 48.2% $428.1 51.8% 2009
20 Spider-Man Sony $821.7 $403.7 49.1% $418.0 50.9% 2002
21 Independence Day Fox $817.4 $306.2 37.5% $511.2 62.5% 1996
22 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs Fox $805.5 $192.4 23.9% $613.1 76.1% 2009
23 Shrek the Third P/DW $799.0 $322.7 40.4% $476.2 59.6% 2007
24 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban WB $795.6 $249.5 31.4% $546.1 68.6% 2004
25 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $792.9 $435.1 54.9% $357.8 45.1% 1982^

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Avatar is the only movie left with the potential to crack the Top 3 Worldwide this year, it's going to be very difficult...with Transformers 2 being it's easiest (out of the 3) to crack.

Potter is headed for a gross somewhere around $925m and which challenge TTT for the #8 position Worldwide.

Ice Age 3 looks to land somewhere between Finding Nemo and may challenge FOTR for the number 16 spot on the Worldwide charts. $870m or threabouts.

Transformers 2 will be overtaken by Ice Age 3, so will move down a spot to #20, that's where it'll stay with a couple of million left in its run. Will probably finish with $830m.

I still have Avatar at around $300m Domestic + $450m+ worldwide for $750m....though if it explodes in countries like Japan, Russia, China....this may well go north of $500m for a worldwide gross above $800m. Christmas/NY will help.