So you would say Argos is a more vaulable member than Spidey, even though Argos has been warned countless times and banned many times for his attitude on the forum. Why else do you think he was eliminated by the owner for?

I'll answer your questions if you finish responding to my own, you overlooked the final bit.

Zingaling and I decided we didn't want to ally with you once you started talking about your not-so revolutionary ideas.

I've been asking you to answer Q1 for a while now (in under 100 words, as you were supposed to), so I don't see why I'm giving you a lead, but whatever.

I'll go into more detail about it after this post.

And you are saying you consider Argos a more valuable member than Spidey then?

Corpse, this is a ridiculous argument.

I am not answering another one of your bogus questions until you respond to Q1 (because you showed an obv. lack of reading comprehension skills the first time around), your BOF history (acknowledging its relevance to being an administrator at WoKJ), and your "revolutionary ideas," since you unfairly tried to dismiss me as "only wanting to win but not caring about the forum," which couldn't be farther from the truth.

It's not ridiculous since you more or less agreed with that. I can quote later, but for now, I will answer your questions.

Idea 1 - Live Chat: I posted an example forum, and it will simply be very useful for event nights such as sporting events, american idol, or award shows when many users are communicating at the same time.

Idea 2 - Design Department: A group of artistic users who will help with any forum designs that may take place in the future. Layouts, headers, logos, themed settings, etc. And rank images, which I really want to add to the forum. It's not much, but it's a nice little addition.

Idea 3 - Marketing Department: A group of users who enjoy promotion and writing. This one IS vague because it's new, and testing is going to take place June 26th. But the purpose will be to simply help market WOKJ to a broader crowd.

*The above cannot be more detailed at the moment since they are all untested, and will be trial and error, and can change.


Most of your platform, torrino, talks about how the moderating team will function. I couldn't speak much on this because I had not yet decided which approach I wanted to take with the moderators, so I'll go into far more detail now. For the basic description of each position, Assistant, Moderator, and Supervisor, check the post where I introduced them.

Now, to expand on them and the decison making process as a whole.

The following do not apply to all positions, only the Supervisor has each ability:

Basics:

-Any action taken that does not include the basic duties consisting of: Sticking A Thread, Posting a Review Thread, and assiting a member via PM, must be documented for the forum to see in the specified thread located in "The Site".
-When a post is edited, the moderator must sign the edited post, and document the case in the specified thread in "The Site" explaining why it was edited with a link directed to the edited post.
-When a thread is locked, the moderator must make a post within the locked thread stating why, and then document the case in the specified thread located in "The Site" with a link directed to the locked thread.
-When a thread is moved/deleted, the moderator must document the case in the specified thread located within "The Site" stating why the thread was moved or deleted.
-When there are three or more threads on a similar topic, a moderator will merge those threads into one discussion thread.

User Issues:

-Each moderator will be required to be visible when they are online.
-Moderators will be required to handle complaints or questions sent to them unless they are unsure of what to do, in which case, they will go over the issue with the fellow moderators to reach a decision.
-Moderators are required to document user issues in the staff forum, explaining what the problem was, and how they corrected that problem.
-Moderators are NOT to reveal the names of those users for privacy reasons. They will be documented using a number system.
-Users will be encouraged to question all moderators, and it will be expected of the moderators to answer the concerned users in public.


The Site:

-When situations occur within "The Site", the moderators will be required to respond to the situation within 24 hours.
-If the situation is not handled by the moderator(s) involved within 48 hours, the thread will be locked temporarily for all moderators to discuss the solution to the problem and agree on an executive decision regarding the issue.
-That thread will then be reopened, with an official statement explaining the team decision.
-If the problem is still unresolved by the moderators, the team may choose to do one of two things. 1) Engage in a team discussion to reach a new solution, or 2) Agree on the previous decision and make it final.


Disciplinary Action

-When a moderator warns a user, they must document the case in the specified locked thread within "The Site" explaining why the user was warned, and then create a public thread regarding the decision.
-When a user reaches two warnings, moderators must discuss within the staff forum what action must be taken depending on the indivudual circumstances. 1) Suspend the user for a specified time frame. 2) Disable the users ability to: A - Create threads, B - Use a signature, C - Use an avatar, D - Use of BBcodes, E - Post within a certain forum, or F - Ban the user.
-All moderators must agree on the action taken.
-If a user has displayed fine behavoir for 6 months, they shall lose a warning.

So, your thoughts, torrino? You asked several times. :p

I'd also like if you responded a bit on your mod team (not why you chose them) and four user complaints I have received on you about your attitude on the board.

If you know why I chose my mods, what do you want to know?

And...I can't speak about my "shitty attitude" if I don't know who's alleging I have one. Context, please.

The big question about them is: Explain your feelings about Argos not following forum rules on multiple accounts, and being banned multiple times, even once this year (carry over)? And, explain your feelings about Christian abusing his mod powers less than a year ago to reveal a posters IP, knowing full well what he was doing by releasing it?

Corpse, you're asking me the same stuff you've already asked me. Look back in the thread/the other thread.

That one thread is filled with too much off topic chit chat to search through.

Just state your feelings (not about why you chose them, you've explained that many times), but your feelings about their severe forum rule breaking in this debate thread which can't go off topic.

Corpse, I am sick of duping my posts. Find the answer yourself. It had something to do with their ideas being inline with my own. Why did you choose your mods? Oh, that's right, because they're your friends and they're "fresh faces."

Cmon, it's not hard for either of us to keep talking.

Just answer the darn questions. They are rather important, having two mods who severly broke forum rules under a year ago on your team, you know. If you've answered this already, it should be easy to simply state them again.

When I chose my mods, I gave my reasons when I listed them right beside their names in this thread, not the chit chat one.

Sean Saulsbury will delete your post, Guybrush. This thread is for Corpse, me, and Saulsbury himself. Eek.

You'll be banned for 2 weeks apparently. 1st page.

Since this is the DEBATE thread (where we are to DEBATE, not chit chat).

All you said here though was that you have faith in both of them, as does your team. Do you even know how many IP addresses Christian released as mod or WHY he did so? Or how many times Argos was warned then banned in a year and what for? (June 08-June 09)? Serious questions.

You've forgiven such acts that harm the forum in less than a years time, okay, but do you not see how that is unhealthy for the forum? Both are severe cases when giving them power on the same forum (one for a second time) they have acted on.

Do you realize that you are the only person who takes issue with these choices?

Yes, because the rules clearly say what this thread is for, and it's the only way to keep it on topic. Just look at the other thread.

Yet over half the pages consists of open discussion not even related to the topic. That's why this thread was for only Torrino and myself.

Sooo, are you going to be the first banned moderator ever from the start if Torrino wins? Second post in here, why not repond in the other thread? You are breaking forum rules AGAIN.

Yeah, all the debate here is forced by Corpse.

Just use the other thread. It flows naturally. This doesn't. It's all you, a little bit of me.

Are you going to respond to my questions or not, torrino?

I actually follow the rules (always have, not a single warning here, and that will always be the case), which includes using this thread for Debate between us (read the first post).

Just take Argos for example. One of your moderators, breaking rules again, and may even be banned according to the first post.

Seriously, dude.

The current rules are the current rules. You are breaking them Argos, knowing you're going to be banned again for doing so, and knowing you're part of Torrino's mod team.

This is why I questioned your Argos choice after you told me you respected him, and why brought up his constant rule breaking and bannings, torri. hell, 4/5 of your team agreed on him.

Just stating the facts, Argos.

And I'll wait to see Torrino's response to my few questions on the bottom of page 2, and what he thinks of one of his moderators chosen by himself and 4/5 of his moderating team, breaking the rules, again, and probably being banned. It's nice in here, yes, but it was stupid to post in here.

Hi Eagle,

Is there still an election?

I think your post was very heartfelt and I know this process must be very stressful for you.

I apologize for any offensive comments that you think I've said. However, you should also note that both of us are "playing the game." I do not understand why Corpse's backstory or harry's forum is off-limits (especially when it is not me bringing it up).

I do think it is important to maintain a thread where both Corpse, I, and the rest of KJ can discuss the election. Could I start an alternative thread, please?

- Ross

There is still an election and you can feel free to start an alternative thread.

Regarding the questions: There is nothing wrong with asking questions about a users past, however I fully believe there is a level of respect an opposing candidate deserves, and I don't feel you've shown that to Corpse throughout this process.

Feel free to bring up BOF again like everyone else has many times. And you now know what happened. I made a stupid decision.

I'd like to question you on your past and why KJ removed you as a mod here, but to me, I don't care. I'm not interested in what you did 3/4 years ago, I'm interested in your recent activity.

I questioned your judgement (and your team I suppose) on the Argos choice because he has harmed THIS forum many times, and did so again tonight as part of your team. Will you respond to that situation for me?