Yeah, and 96% of all those critics who always fall for the hype just proves your point.

You're approaching DIB levels of of paranoia and incomprehensibility. Just FYI.

Nah, there are other ways they could have met. He could have met Spock at the base. Why was Spock sitting in a cave anyway? Why didn't he go to the base? That would be logical. Or the storm could have gotten worse, forcing Kirk in there.

It just seemed to be a "We can't go five minutes without some action" add on.

well it is an action movie! and what, is Kirk supposed to walk in while Spock sits there drinking coffee? That can be discussed in every movie, why it happened and what could have happened.

Also maybe Spock didn't know there was a base there??? He is not a computer like Data and he was only put there to watch Vulcan get destroyed. And then maybe he was in the cave just thinking? Remember he didn't know Kirk came back.

1. Too much hand held camera. I really hate it when the camera jiggles around. I shouldn't be noticing the camera movement. Come on, you spent how many millions on this film and you can't buy a tripod?

That comment displays an uncharacteristic benightedness for you, Groucho.

Isn't it odd that many critics work for the same overarching corporations that produce movies? What a strange coincidence, huh?

However, this is not a random occurence - - the critics play a key part in crafting the hype for these too-big-to-fail blockbusters. Viewers are literally programmed with their response to the movie before they even see it. I often see the exact wording of movie promotional material parroted back in reviews here at KJ.

Marketing psychology/propoganda has reached an extremely sophisticated level in our society. So much so, that it has become invisible to most people. One of the master strokes of the new hype is that it is so integrated into what people mistakenly think of as their free will - - their opinions have been stolen, and it's an inside job. So, of course, they then balk at any suggestion that they are no longer thinking for themselves. The number one symptom of hypenosis is denial. It's insidious.

COINCIDENCE ON HOTH

The motherlode of the film’s many handy coincidences involves the banished Kirk conveniently running into Spock Prime (as the writers coined him early on) in his cave on Delta Vega. Much to my surprise and delight, even this jaw-dropping moment has an explanation! In the minds of the creators, the focus of the plot is that Nero’s destruction of the timeline has altered history to the point that the all important friendship of Kirk and Spock is now threatened. If these two don’t come together, the fabric of space and time itself is endangered (as we have witnessed by the universe itself being saved countless times over the last 40 years). Kirk “coincidentally” running into Spock Prime is an example of fate itself trying to bring these two together. That’s how important it is. In fact a line about this was included during Spock Prime’s mind-meld speech, but was removed at the last minute (the writers said this particular was labored over more than any other section of the script and they now regret not including the line about fate). While this doesn’t completely forgive a very hackneyed sequence, it does address the most egregious moment in the film and I appreciate that an attempt was made to address it. In the wake of criticism over this scene, perhaps the line will be restored for the DVD release. It would make a world of difference.

You're approaching DP07 levels of of paranoia and incomprehensibility. Just FYI.

You might want to get checked out by a doctor Bradley, I fear you are already beginning to show symptoms of Alzheimer's. Good luck.

Kirk, as a 10-year-old, takes a joyride in his guardian's vintage Corvette Sting Ray. (It'd have to be close to 300 years old, right?) He ignores admonitions to come home and, when a police officer spots the lad, Kirk floors it instead of pulling over. The chase concludes with the car hurtling off what must be Iowa's only cliff; Kirk leaps to safety just in time.

Haha, I was reading a short overview of the movie which brought up a minor plot hole:

Also, what the hell is a cliff like this doing in famously flat Iowa? Again, sharp eyes will see that the sign Kirk blows through reads “quarry” (i.e. a man-made pit).

It was pretty good, and this is coming from someone who's never even watched a Star Trek episode. The only things I knew where that there was a ship called the Enterprise, and a guy with pointy ears and a bad hairdo called Spock. Not OMFG AMAZING like the reviews say, or as good as Revenge of the Sith/Old Star Wars Trilogy, but it was still a very fun, visually spectacular and well-acted space adventure with enough emotion to match the action.

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