Best Animated Feature Race 09 (Disney, Pixar, Miyazaki...)
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I didn't realize so many people are on the fence about the film.
Produced by John Lasseter, with music by Randy Newman, from the directors of Aladdin and The Little Mermaid. Seems like a no brainer. It should be good in theory, but I haven't seen anything really interesting. I think Disney's filtering the crap out of the stuff that would make it interesting.
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I can't imagine PatF, Up and Ponyo all being nominated. All 3 are Disney.
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Yeah, well, what's the competition?
A Christmas Carol won't get in. The Academy clearly has bias against realistic animation (they gave The Polar Express three noms and yet not Best Animated and gave that to Shark Fucking Tale instead).
Monsters and Aliens? HMM...doesn't look like the right material for them.
Coraline stands a solid chance...it's pretty acclaimed and did well enough. But which will be kicked out? I think Ponyo might be in trouble...
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The trouble with Coraline is the release date. It made good money at the box office, but I still think it could be very easy for the voters to forget about it by the end of the year if the rest of this year's animated slate is really good.
In this matchup: Unless The Princess and the Frog comes pretty close to recapturing what Disney had in the '90s, I think Up has the edge.
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Webslinger wrote: The trouble with Coraline is the release date. It made good money at the box office, but I still think it could be very easy for the voters to forget about it by the end of the year if the rest of this year's animated slate is really good. They might time the DVD release somewhere in fall to raise the awareness again. But still, there were animated movies that were nominated despite having their run earlier in the year. Also Coraline seems to have really great reviews and WOM (with or without 3D). It accounts for something. Also if there are 16 submission there will be 5 nominations. We might be counting off movies instead of thinking which 5 will get in. That has only happened in 2002 for now, but this year seems to be packed with animated movies.
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be.redy wrote: Also if there are 16 submission there will be 5 nominations. We might be counting off movies instead of thinking which 5 will get in. That has only happened in 2002 for now, but this year seems to be packed with animated movies.
I think its a foregone conclusion that's its 5 films this year. Fantastic Mr. Fox had a spot.
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roo wrote: I can't imagine PatF, Up and Ponyo all being nominated. All 3 are Disney. But... didn't that happen with Treasure Planet, Spirited Away (kind of), and Lilo and Stitch? Very possible if nominations get stretched to 5.
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Indeed. I don't think Disney wants to compete so heavily with itself, though.
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But they have to push Ponyo because it's Miyazaki. Imagine a riot in the world of animation if Disney decided to put aside Ponyo a bit. They have to push PatF because it's their big return to 2D. And then obviously Up is getting a push because it's Pixar and Pixar makes no wrongs.
We already know Ponyo is very good according to most critics/people. The previews for Up had nothing but good words for it. That leaves PatF as the most vulnerable because we have no clue how it's going to turn out. And it's a question if Disney will be able to put together a great cartoon. They haven't been able to make a great cartoon in a long time, 3D or 2D.
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AnJon Lyrik Chigurh wrote: Indeed. I don't think Disney wants to compete so heavily with itself, though. But its not as if they have a choice. If we're talking about the bottom-line, they stand to gain more by investing time and energy into Up and The Princess and The Frog.
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loyalfromlondon wrote: be.redy wrote: Also if there are 16 submission there will be 5 nominations. We might be counting off movies instead of thinking which 5 will get in. That has only happened in 2002 for now, but this year seems to be packed with animated movies.
I think its a foregone conclusion that's its 5 films this year. Fantastic Mr. Fox has a spot. speaking of Mr. Fox http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/30/ear ... more-23626
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Well I do think there is "enough" for Monsters vs. Aliens to consider that it will probably get nominated even if there is only 3 nominated films, as Dreamworks almost always has a horse in the race.
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roo wrote: Well I do think there is "enough" for Monsters vs. Aliens to consider that it will probably get nominated even if there is only 3 nominated films, as Dreamworks almost always has a horse in the race. They won't this year. With Up, Ponyo, Princess and a Frog, 9, Coraline, and whatever else that's coming out this year, MVA would get lost in the suffle, even if there are 5 this year, let alone 3.
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loyalfromlondon wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: be.redy wrote: Also if there are 16 submission there will be 5 nominations. We might be counting off movies instead of thinking which 5 will get in. That has only happened in 2002 for now, but this year seems to be packed with animated movies.
I think its a foregone conclusion that's its 5 films this year. Fantastic Mr. Fox has a spot. speaking of Mr. Fox http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/30/ear ... more-23626Yeah, it really looks like this will be a great year for animated movies. As far as MvA is concerned, if there are five picks MvA could certainly be a contender. But in the case of 3 slots, MvA doesn't have a chance.
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Disney should bite the bullet and pull Up.
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AnJon Lyrik Chigurh wrote: Disney should bite the bullet and pull Up. I'm inclined to agree. If it's reviews are great, why not? I mean, there's not really much chance after Wall-E not getting in, but maybe that only strengthens the case for them being "overdue." That would open it up for Ponyo to win animated as well.
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They really got nothing to lose. They have three other films, one of which I'm sure they'd rather push for a win, and it'll certainly get like four nominations sans Animated Film anyway, as long as it gets over an 80 on MetaCritic. Now even if it gets Wall-E reviews and makes $250 million, it's unlikely to compete big even if it's pulled from Animated Feature, but it's worth a shot.
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AnJon Lyrik Chigurh wrote: They really got nothing to lose. They have three other films, one of which I'm sure they'd rather push for a win, and it'll certainly get like four nominations sans Animated Film anyway, as long as it gets over an 80 on MetaCritic. Now even if it gets Wall-E reviews and makes $250 million, it's unlikely to compete big even if it's pulled from Animated Feature, but it's worth a shot. As far as near-future, an animated film as BP isn't happening. I do believe it will eventually, say 15 years from now. But Wall-e had impeccable reviews, was a very deep and layered message, a very empty oscar season, and lots of fan support, and still didn't get nominated. So Up, which I doubt will have quite as fanatic reviews, and will probably have a stronger oscar season, I don't see how it has a shot.
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What you said is basically what I said. Though I think you may have skipped the "if it was pulled from Animated Film" part.
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Basically Pixar has nothing to gain by keeping it in the Best Animated race, but a chance at a BP nom, albeit extremely remote, if they take it out.
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Up is screening http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collec ... _get.shtmlQuote: A group of about 70 people holed up in the AMC Southdale Thursday became the first members of the general public to see "Up" the new offering from Pixar. The movie is likely to be one of the hot releases when it comes out in late May.
Thursday's screening wasn't without a little drama though. It started more than three-quarters of an hour late, which is never good when a large proportion of your audience is under the age of 10, as was the case yesterday.
Let's just say there was a lot of energy in the theater, and a lot of popcorn on the floor.
The delay it turned out was because the movie was so new it was delivered on a hard-drive handcuffed to a security guard. Actually the delivery was on time, but the package lacked the vital cord which the theater staff needed to download the movie to the theater's server.
Someone was dispatched to the local Radio Shack to get a replacement, but the film was still downloading when the audience arrived. The gathering press reps were all advised about the delay and the mass of youngsters inside, and some of us decided to take advantage of the pleasant weather outside for half an hour.
It has to be said, the wait was worthwhile. "Up" is at times quite breathtaking. The film was so new it didn't have credits at the end yet.
After the show the security folks watched as the movie was erased from the server, and the drive was handcuffed again to the minder, and off it flew again to Pixar HQ.
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The movie gets a whole sentence? It does contain breathtaking though.
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Probably had to sign a hush-hush.
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Wonder what audience reaction was? I assume great, but it would be an interesting early sign for BO.
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