There were only two genuine shots at that for now (Rat and W-E). And you're already dissing the idea?? You never know what's going to happen. And this is bound to happen sometime in the future.

It's not going to happen until an animated film gets in BP PERIOD. You can't just hope for both. You have to force the issue.

Shrek had as good a shot as Rat did at least. Don't forget Aladdin, The Lion King, Little Mermaid or Roger Rabbit. The first one had THREE Golden Globe wins and five nominations. All of which failed to do it, though, and we'll never know by how much. Rabbit actually managed a WGA nom, and the others had more Globe nominations than Wall-E or Rat ever managed. Toy Story was probably put to the wayside for Babe.

But yeah, I think Disney would much rather push Princess And The Frog. Considering it's a BIG comeback for a medium they considered dead five years ago, they are reviving the Disney princess angle post-Enchanted AND it's directed by the guys behind Aladdin and The Little Mermaid, I think they're aiming VERY high for this. Knowing these assholes, less than an Animation win and $130 million at the box office would be considered a failure. Up? That can still get four or five nominations without Animated or Picture, depending on the Song category (which will probably be dominated by Princess/Frog and Nine).

Cool bit of Pixar news:

Up is opening Cannes this year. First time ever for an animated film I believe.

Hopefully it will reverse the Cannes opening film curse as of late (Blindness, My Blueberry Nights, Da Vinci Code)

I was just gonna post the news, very excited that Cannes is around the corner and everything is rolling along.

No, the first two Shreks went to Cannes too. And the half-completed Beauty And The Beast, I believe.

First time. First time.

For opening? Then yeah, probably.

Pixar just doesn't befall to curses. Cars is their worst movie and still decent with well-drawn characters.

I find Cars to be VERY underrated. Not their best film, but close.

You can tell me I'm in denial, or just ignoring the facts, but I believe that, as retarded as the academy is they will eventually branch out. I also believe that someday a super-hero flick will get nominated. I don't see either of these happening for a while, say 10 years, untilt he landscape of film has changed up some, and the academy operates a little differently, but I still see it on the horizon.

I don't see a superhero movie ever getting a nomination. I just can't picture a scenario in which acclaim would match up correctly with history and produce something that would have enough support where The Dark Knight didn't.

If The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay comes together, it'll be nominated. Though it doesn't exactly count.

Yea, I think the holocaust and gay issues will easily overcome any superhero problems.

Yeah, it's not happening for another generation. The next Batman could make $700 million and have better reviews and it won't happen.

I don't mean to say though that a *graphic novel* based film could never get nominated, but it will be something more like Road to Perdition or A History of Violence or even something akin to like a 300 (not in terms of action or commercialism, but not a superhero film).

Like I wouldn't include Tintin or Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay with superhero (not that those pictures have a real shot, but whatever).

I'm just saying that pre-existing popular superheros (X-Men, Superman, Captain America, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, whatever...) won't get nominated.

Really? Kavalier and Clay (especially if Daldry and Rudin remain on board) sounds like an Oscar nominee.

I have been wrong in the past of course, but it certainly doesn't hold that every picture that Daldry ever produces will be nominated for Oscars, apparently one that's a little bit "out there".

I have nothing against it or the material though.

I have never read the book, really want to but haven't gotten around to it, but from what I gather, it would be perfect academy bait. I think if it gets made, Kavalier and Clay would be excellent and get a lot of academy attention.
And you all can be skeptical if you want, my call is that, by 2020, both a superhero film and an animated flick will be nominated, not win but get a nomination, for best picture by the academy awards.

Duh.

Well, I went with yes initially. Even with 5 nominees, they would have eventually made it.