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Dr. Lecter
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 Best Visual Effects 2009 Yeah...that's never too early to discuss since most/all of us are gonna flock to that summer/winter blockbusters with the pretty CGI.
Anyway, I'd say we have pretty much two near-locks at this point:
Transformers 2
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One is a likely $350+ million grosser with definitely amazing effects.
The other is suppose to revolutionize visual effects.
Question is - which will be the third?
I think Harry potter and Wolverine are out because the effects people have never been partial to these two franchises. I think it'll come down to 2012, Terminator: Salvation and Watchmen. Then again, 300 garnered no love and effects from a film early in the year are probably not remembered that well, so it's 2012 vs. Terminator. I'll go with Terminator for now, though they do love water effects.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 avatar, if it comes out.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Oops, nevermind.
Avatar
Star Trek
Transformers 2
Avatar wins, most likely.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 I have
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Transformers 2
Star Trek
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Rev
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 the Academy OWES Transformes for fucking them over last year.  Avatar Star Trek T4 HP 6
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 go Cameron
Titanic - Won
True Lies - Nominated
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - Won
The Abyss - Won
Aliens - Won
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billybobwashere
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Avatar and TF2 are already in there... the last spot is a battle between Watchmen, Star Trek, and Terminator.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 The Golden Compass 2.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Avatar
The Lovely Bones
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
The Lovely Bones should be pretty effects heavy for a drama.
Star Trek and Transformers are too ILM heavy, they'll only nominate one ILM heavy film. Lovely Bones is Weta heavy, and while Weta helped on Avatar, they aren't the only effects studio (as much as I've heard? Let me know if I'm wrong).
Avatar is likely the winner unless The Lovely Bones turns into a BP nominee/frontrunner, The Lovely Bones benefits from being a late-in-the-year entry. Harry Potter will get it's due at the end of it's run (the 8th film!).
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Tyler
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Nah, Lovely Bones is too small-scale and low-budget for this category. Jackson is an effects man, yes, but I think the budget means it's not quite a What Dreams May Come. Maybe I'm wrong, but they haven't nominated a film that small-scale and small-budget in how many years in this category. They certainly haven't nominated effects more supplemental since...Saving Private Ryan? I don't know.
Avatar is a mortal lock, and it will win as long as it's not an abysmal failure. Transformers is in. I think 2012 is #3, with Potter in fourth. They didn't nominate T3, so no. Star Trek...maybe, but it depends.
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roo
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Jon you bring up a good point about budget, but when you talk specifically about Jackson/Spielberg/Lucas films budget can be a little wonky as (with Lord of the Rings and Star Wars as examples) the productions are not necessarily paying full scale for the amount of effects work that gets done.
There's a fascinating documentary on Phantom Menance where Lucas essentially stares down ILM to fit the relatively small budget for Phantom Menace (which at $115 million was a bargain, even 11 years ago).
It's hard to tell though, I mean War of the Worlds had a $132 million budget but had a star attached to it which probably demanded at least 15%-20% of that total.
But part of my reluctance to nominate Star Trek or Harry Potter is that ILM typically has a really tough time securing 2 nominations. It's definately possible and has happened, but not very often (despite the fact they deserve it).
I do agree that Avatar pretty much has this thing to lose.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Well, $65 million these days is pretty damn low, though not so much for a drama. I think we'll need to see just how elaborate heaven looks. Art Direction is pretty locked, though.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Star Trek
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
The Wolfman
ALTERNATE: Avatar
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 2012
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Avatar (winner)
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Gunslinger wrote: Star Trek
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
The Wolfman
ALTERNATE: Avatar I don't think there's any way for Avatar not to be nominated. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Avatar being nominated for Visual Effects is as much of a mortal lock as the Picture nominations of ROTK, Slumdog Millionaire, and the Animated Film nominations of Ratatouille and WALL-E.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Hell, even True Lies got a VFX nomination!
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Actually, yeah, I'll go with Tree Of Life. 2012 could be too sucky.
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billybobwashere
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Actually, I'll go with Star Trek. But now I don't have a very good argument in its favor.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 billybobwashere wrote: Actually, I'll go with Star Trek. It'll be their Hellboy II / Poseidon of this year. Hellboy II wasn't nominated.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Jon wrote: billybobwashere wrote: Actually, I'll go with Star Trek. It'll be their Hellboy II / Poseidon of this year. Hellboy II wasn't nominated. oh yeah, that was my prediction.  _________________Retroviral VideosA film-based project created for the purpose of helping raise awareness about HIV/AIDS, specifically in South Africa.
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 Avatar
Transformers 2
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 A different one, one that no one (or very few) are expecting right now. _________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
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Re: Best Visual Effects 2009 This category is our first lock of the year: Avatar. Doesn't matter who else is nominated 
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