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El Maskado
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 Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Lots of strong "opinion" by the negative camp. Just because you didnt like it doesnt mean it wont have a chance to break the record. I dont need to reiterate again about reviews dont mean jack for OW. Transformers way able to manage over 300 million with reviews that arent even so bad yet its not the only movie to do that also in a similiar style. The only argument against the OW record I really buy was the 2 year gap thing
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Optimus_Prime
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW The opening will be big, sadly yes. But it will not be 160 mil, TDK's opening was a juggernaut and will not be dublicated anytime soon. This will be above 100 mil, probaley more towards 130, but it will not break any OD or OW records.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW We ALWAYS say that. It's as if every record is invincible. Almost none of them are.
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Optimus_Prime
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW I am sorry but I think that TDK shows the maximum potential that a movie can do in today's time on an opening weekend, I think it will change in 5 years. In my eyes the only way a movie can beat TDK is if they sell out every single show and I do not see that happening. TF2 has a chance to pass it but i do not see TF2 doing TDK's midnight showings or its sunday drop, so that is why I am saying no
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The Dark Shape
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW TDK Ran Shit wrote: Transformers legs were VERY solid; I know it ended being my fav. movie of the summer and I am sure many others. It did beat Potter by over 25 million.
Transformers was the DEFINITION of a crowd pleaser. It was one of the funniest movies of last year, Fox was an absolute babe, chicks like Tyrese and J.D., and obv the action was absurd. It wasnt a crowd pleaser like, say, CHARLIE ANGELS was, this was more of a crowd pleaser like Spiderman 1 was. History shows us sequels to crowd pleaser see BIG BIG BIG increase, usually, atleast opening weekend
-Pirates 2
-Rush Hour 2
-Shrek 2
-X2
-Austin Powers 2
I think however, the best comparison I can really think of, in terms of film reception, is the 1st Mummy. That looked like average summer fun but ended being a lot more entertaining, funny, action packed, and simply a lot better than anybody else expected. It translated to the 2nd biggest opener even when it opened.
But yeah numbers dont lie, transformers 1 clearly had good word of mouth. Anyone who thinks Transformers' word-of-mouth was anything less than stellar is a fool. That said, X2 is the only film on that list a sequel can be compared to, because it was based on a popular brand. And even with a well-liked original, fantastic reviews, and stellar word-of-mouth, X2's increase over X-Men wasn't that huge.
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Eventine
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW No Joker = No Record
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Chippy
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Guaranteed.
$175? Anyone? Anyone?
It has a shot.
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BJ
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MadGez
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Optimus_Prime wrote: I am sorry but I think that TDK shows the maximum potential that a movie can do in today's time on an opening weekend, I think it will change in 5 years. In my eyes the only way a movie can beat TDK is if they sell out every single show and I do not see that happening. TF2 has a chance to pass it but i do not see TF2 doing TDK's midnight showings or its sunday drop, so that is why I am saying no The same was said when Jurassic Park opened. And when Harry Potter opened. And when Spiderman opened. And when Pirates 2 opened. And when TDK opened....  _________________
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Keyser Söze
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Optimus_Prime wrote: I am sorry but I think that TDK shows the maximum potential that a movie can do in today's time on an opening weekend, I think it will change in 5 years. In my eyes the only way a movie can beat TDK is if they sell out every single show and I do not see that happening. TF2 has a chance to pass it but i do not see TF2 doing TDK's midnight showings or its sunday drop, so that is why I am saying no WORD.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Transformers made $77 m on its 3day weekend, after already banking in $85 m from the weekdays before. However, it did make 49% of its total gross in its first 6 days. It also wasn't until its 9th weekend that it pulled a drop under 40% (or to be exact 39.6%). It definitely had solid wom as it still made $77 m after already getting $85 m from weekdays, but its legs could have been better. The people who saw it in its first 6 days could very well see the sequel in its first three. However, being so close to the holiday weekend (which is the week after), people could very well put off seeing it until the next weekend.
The bare minimum for this is $83 m, considering that's what the original did on its three day weekend adjusted for inflation.
I'm seeing about $135 - $140 m for this, simply because it is so close to the long weekend, that people might put off seeing it until its 2nd weekend.
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Chippy
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW So looking at the release schedule...
The market will be even MORE dead than it was for TDK.
There MIGHT be a $30 mil opener the weekend before... MAYBE
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Flava'd vs The World
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MadGez
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW O wrote: Transformers made $77 m on its 3day weekend, after already banking in $85 m from the weekdays before. However, it did make 49% of its total gross in its first 6 days. It also wasn't until its 9th weekend that it pulled a drop under 40% (or to be exact 39.6%). It definitely had solid wom as it still made $77 m after already getting $85 m from weekdays, but its legs could have been better. The people who saw it in its first 6 days could very well see the sequel in its first three. However, being so close to the holiday weekend (which is the week after), people could very well put off seeing it until the next weekend.
The bare minimum for this is $83 m, considering that's what the original did on its three day weekend adjusted for inflation.
I'm seeing about $135 - $140 m for this, simply because it is so close to the long weekend, that people might put off seeing it until its 2nd weekend. Some good points though Transformers had much stronger competition than TDK did. Die Hard and Ratatouille less than a week before it and Harry Potter (!), Adam Sandler, Hairspray and Bourne, Rush Hour and Superbad afterwards. _________________
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Nope! I have not heard half as good WOM here as I did about Batman Begins, It won't have a tragic accident to advance interest, it won't have as titular of a bad guy, it'll have much worse marketing and trailers, and it will simply not be nearly as good of a movie. This will top 125m OW and 400m total but won't do much past it.
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billybobwashere
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW it doesn't deserve it, but it's gonna happen. I'm one of the few people who didn't like Transformers, and I know I'm gonna see this -- probably during its OW. There's something very irresistible about it.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW wow very surprised by the SB spot for this. Didn't seem right, very serious and dark looking which is just not transformers. I'm shocked at the tone of this and think it is very bad news. We already have terminator early in the summer to provide the Dark Knight super-serious popcorn flick, if they keep the marketing tone this serious I think it will significantly hurt the movie.
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Speevy
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Benjamin Milk wrote: Nope! I have not heard half as good WOM here as I did about Batman Begins, It won't have a tragic accident to advance interest, it won't have as titular of a bad guy, it'll have much worse marketing and trailers, and it will simply not be nearly as good of a movie. This will top 125m OW and 400m total but won't do much past it. Key word in bold
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Speevy wrote: Benjamin Milk wrote: Nope! I have not heard half as good WOM here as I did about Batman Begins, It won't have a tragic accident to advance interest, it won't have as titular of a bad guy, it'll have much worse marketing and trailers, and it will simply not be nearly as good of a movie. This will top 125m OW and 400m total but won't do much past it. Key word in bold yes you're right, it's a personal sample so I shouldn't rely on it. However I just don't see the buzz machine working up for this like it did for TDK, I'm not saying it won't be huge it just won't set world records. Nothing will for a few years, until Iron Man 2 is my guess, I think that movie will be far more successful than T2 _________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW I dont know. This does have a shot, not going to lie, at 160. It wont touch TDK's 7-17 day record, but the initial ones may fall.
Midnight WILL bwe enormous.
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Alex Y.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW How many more IMAX theaters will have opened at that time since The Dark Knight? I know that in the LA/San Gabriel Valley area there have been several.
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BJ
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW I think this films survival is dependant on a wednesday or thursday release, seeing as how the 4th is on a saturday this year. Classic patterns suggest a 20%+ saturday drop is in play for every film, I think that if this opened on friday it would drop 40%+ on saturday, to save face it would be smart to push it to a wednesday release.
EDIT - awe a june release, smart move.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW 125 opening and not a million more.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW Wah, the teaser is just insane. It's like the original Transformers teaser trailer. Pretty awesome. I love that monster robot in the end and it looks like this will have even more action and just as fun.
$140m 3-Day is a minimum, i'm thinking somewhere between $150-$160m. Though leaning more towards the low $150m, i.e. around Spiderman 3 levels.
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Re: Transformers 2 $160m OW The three weeks of no event film before it will only help it, like SM3 and its been a trend that the OW record is broken every year since 2006.
If this doesnt beat TDK OW, I'd be dissapointed.
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