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roo
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 Re: There Will Be Blood
makeshift wrote: This movie is about Daniel Plainview. The end. To ask what are ultimately side characters to be as drawn out as the center of the story is ridiculous. Then it shouldn't have spent so much time creating and examining threads and characters that it would NEVER develop.
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MovieGeek
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I can't understand why the hell people don't like this movie! I am so glad there are no F's or D's uo there. There are people all over the internet and people at my school who hated it. If you have a good reason to hate a movie I understand but the pure fact that some people say "The first part was so boring because no one talked." or "It is so boring because oil is boring." And this is straight from IMDB (the people here are so stupid.)"what was with that musical score? it was soooo bad, it sounded like an orchestra tuning their instruments before a performance. thats not music, thats tuning, and it gets very annoying and cringing. no one wants to hear that they want to hear the actual music." and "Day-Lewis only made three movies since 1999...oh yeah a great actor, not! Why is everyone dribbling from the mouth over his performance. It's sucked and so cliched. Fake American accent borrowed from John Houston, over the top squinting and an appearance borrowed from any 1970s' porn star. I give this movie - 200! It's *beep*"
Grow the fuck up! Have a real fucking reason to hate the movie!
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:56 am |
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roo
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Are you angry at people outside, or in this topic? Because I wouldn't describe anybody in this topic as being that shallow.
I mean, what do you expect from a movie like There Will Be Blood? It's not a movie for the general audience.
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:50 am |
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makeshift
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roo wrote: makeshift wrote: This movie is about Daniel Plainview. The end. To ask what are ultimately side characters to be as drawn out as the center of the story is ridiculous. Then it shouldn't have spent so much time creating and examining threads and characters that it would NEVER develop. Like I said, the movie is about Daniel Plainview. I can think of one scene off the top of my head that features Eli without Daniel present (the scene with his family at dinner), and the purpose or need for that scene is fairly obvious and shouldn't be in question. So to say the movie spent an exorbitant amount of time on Eli is a bit of a stretch considering the threads always lead back to Plainview.
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:09 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I've gotta agree with makeshift there. It is about Plainview and that's the way it should have been too.
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:09 am |
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MovieGeek
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roo wrote: Are you angry at people outside, or in this topic? Because I wouldn't describe anybody in this topic as being that shallow.
I mean, what do you expect from a movie like There Will Be Blood? It's not a movie for the general audience. People outside this topic
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Shack
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Until the last 20 minutes, I liked the film a lot but was minorly disappointed... However, it ends on such a high note that I'm tempted to give it a drastically higher grade as a result of it, the end makes everything before it seem better than it probably was. I really think the bowling alley scene might be one of the very best I've ever seen, as well as the final shot itself.
No need to talk about Lewis, but I echo the praises for Paul Dano here too. He's the real deal, and I can't wait to see more performances from him in the future.
As a whole, I do think the movie is a very good character study and one of the best on-screen showing of capitilism I've seen, that at times shows flashes of brilliance but maybe doesn't hold it consistently. In particular, other than the end, I thought the burning tower, opening sequence, the abandoning of the child and the later church exclamation of it, were particularly well done.
I think I agree with Lecter on some of its faults though - The brother sequence didn't really fly with me too well, I understand its purpose in further wrecking Plainview, but I found the result neither devestating nor shocking and I wasn't a fan of the actor who played Henry at all. I also agree with him that the actual storyline, concerning the oil and pipeline and etc. wasn't really engaging. I know the real meat of the movie is Plainview's character, but it still left me feeling a bit off.
I think I'd probably give it a 4/5 or A-, it's a very good movie, but I think No Country for Old Men deserved the Oscar it got.
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Shack
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Magnus wrote: The film had great acting (well, really only be DDL and the boy. Dano kind of sucked) and great cinematography. The music was hit or miss. When it was worked, it was amazing. But when it didn't, it was annoying. But the problem I still have with the film was its story. It just didn't do it for me.
The film had the look of a masterpiece, but it didn't have the core story to back it up. Positive* Jon wrote: I'm with Zingaling on this one. There is a LOT of brilliance here, in the performances by Day-Lewis and Dano (Especially Dano) and tech-wise (It's flawless in that aspect) and there are stretches of the film that are truly captivating (The burning oil thingy, the final 15 minutes), but ultimately it's a little...disappointing. People here talk about "experiencing" or "enduring" it, but I always felt like I was watching it, not truly into it. There was no real moment where I thought to my self "This is a fucking AMAZING movie!" like Atonement or NCFOM or Once or a few other great movies from this year. There were simply moments where I recognized brilliance, but never truly felt that brilliance. Actually, it's a lot like the one other PTA film I've seen, Magnolia. I guess I need to see Boogie Nights and Punch-Drunk Love now to make sure he's not a cocktease about his awesomeness.
Ultimately, a flawed but still worthwhile wannabe masterpiece.
***1/2 These pretty much exemplify how I feel about Blood. It felt like it should be a masterpiece and seemingly has all the key ingredients and depth, but I never really fell in love with it like I did other movies this year.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Shack wrote: These pretty much exemplify how I feel about Blood. It felt like it should be a masterpiece and seemingly has all the key ingredients and depth, but I never really fell in love with it like I did other movies this year. Yeah - - we were certainly told to think it was a masterpiece enuf times! I wonder why the experience of the movie differs from the marketing hype? That's so weird.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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Magnus wrote: We're showing NCFOM and TWBB next week at my theater, back-to-back. I plan on sitting through both of them (while working and getting paid). I hope by doing this I can finally make a clear decision at which is the better film (right now, I feel NCFOM is the better film). I also hope the repeat viewing will give me an idea of whether or not this is a masterpiece. Many people compare this to Kubricks films, and the thing with Kubricks films is that you need at least two viewings to really make a decision about it (all of Kubricks films to me were near masterpieces to me the first time I saw them, but then became masterpieces after I saw them again). I feel the same way. I need to see both of them too. I mean, I did see them in a period of 48 hours, but still...
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MadGez
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I saw TWB with two friends. One who though NCFOM was his fave film in the last 5 years and one who hated NCFOM. The first guy liked it alot but preferred NCFOM. The other loved TWB and still hates NCFOM.
I preferred NCFOM ove TWBB.
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Vanilla Sky
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The Mr Pink wrote: It's been said before and I'll say it again the one word to describe this film is WOW. This is truly a modern masterpiece and will be studied for generations to come. PTA has crafted a nearly pitch perfect film and Daniel Day-Lewis is without a doubt this generations greates actor.
Grade A++ I actually totaly agree with Mr. Pink on this,, loved this film, Daniel Day Lewis is awsome A+
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10/10 -> A
The best film of 2007. And a masterpiece that will be remembered.
From the very beginning when the first thing we hear from Mr. Plainview is his animal scream which comes off not as a scream for help or his life, but as a scream for his silver we know we're in for quite a ride.
I dare to say there really isn't a central plot in here. There's no central piece of story around which everything revolves. There are sporadic happenings throughout the years that bounce off from Plainview who is the movie. If he doesn't enchant you, then you'll probably like this film a little bit less or won't like it at all.
I've been trying to set my impressions for two days know, I'd like to see the movie a few more times. But unfortunately I saw it on the last day of its distribution, so I'm waiting for a DVD (or maybe they even show it in our art theatre).
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Bradley Witherberry
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Wow - - this thread had a short half life... I just read a quote from another thread (the Atonement review thread) which captures some of the wild-eyed lunacy that surrounded this disappointing picture only eight short months ago... da torri wrote: It's also not fair to compare Atonement to TWBB. TWBB isn't even a movie - it's like the eighth wonder of the world, or somethin'. I am glad you liked Blood. My Mom saw it today, and shot me an e-mail saying "I don't get why you were so taken with it." I had to baloney a response, telling her I get her point, that the movie's hard to love and frustrating. But, inside, I'm thinkin' more along the lines of... "Mom, I'm sorry, but you just don't understand film." A disgusting thought, but it's the truth. I'm convinced that to be a true film aficionado, you must, must, must love Blood. So welcome to the club.  Heh. Sounds like the same kind of spittle spraying blather which later coated TDK in it's slimy cult of idolatry. Still it's another example of the amazing power of hype, and it will be interesting to see this film's reputation falter as time marches on - - after all, there's that great first hour in TWBB before it goes off the rails in a train wreck of indulgent bloat. I just hope the hangover coming down from all the histrionics ain't too grim for any of them deluded fanboys...
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torrino
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Oy vey Bradley
I still think this is the best movie released in years...
The problem with TWBB is that it takes a life out of you. It is immensely rewarding, but equally exhausting.
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Mr. Lobotomy
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Wow, this movie blew me away. Certainly one of the most fascinating films I've ever seen.
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trixster
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DRAIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAGE
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trixster
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It's probably the most deserving Oscar win of all-time.
Also, the score is somehow even more amazing the more times I listen to it. Simply stunning. Fuck the Academy for disqualifying it.
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snack
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trixster wrote: It's probably the most deserving Oscar win of all-time.
this is one of those posts that one regrets later on, trixster.
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trixster
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snack wrote: trixster wrote: It's probably the most deserving Oscar win of all-time.
this is one of those posts that one regrets later on, trixster. Seriously, though. Look at Oscar's history. They so rarely get it right. This is one time they did. I'm not ashamed to say that this is one of my favourite movies, ever. And I doubt I'll be editing this later.
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Rorschach wrote: After watching 2001 again, I realized that the theme "There Will Be Blood" is simliar to the music in 2001 that is used with the monolith. wow, very good mag.
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Caius
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Paul Scofield in A Man for All Seasons.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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trixster wrote: It's probably the most deserving Oscar win of all-time.
Also, the score is somehow even more amazing the more times I listen to it. Simply stunning. Fuck the Academy for disqualifying it. Yeah, seriously. Major fuck-up. Now I really liked Atonement's score, but sorry, TWBB should have walked away with this.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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Looking back, I stand by what I have said. The directing is simply superb, the acting top-notch and the screenplay pretty strong. But I still couldn't really connect to it in any way, thus a slightly lower-than-perfect grade.
I must say that since my original viewing I must have rewatched the bowling alley scene for about 10 times since my first viewing of the movie.
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Tyler
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I can connect with it in its utter insanity. I love insane epics like this, except it's short-scaled enough to not be really flawed.
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