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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 am Posts: 993
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Wow Snack, you're cool. So... having that in your sig proves umm... what?
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snack
Extraordinary
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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Ev@n wrote: Wow Snack, you're cool. So... having that in your sig proves umm... what? excuse me, my name is snack.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15571 Location: Everywhere
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Ev@n wrote: Wow Snack, you're cool. So... having that in your sig proves umm... what? That without knowing the tone from the rest of the post it can seem entirely different...
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Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:03 pm |
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snack
Extraordinary
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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or entirely illuminating.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15571 Location: Everywhere
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snack wrote: or entirely illuminating. heh, no he intended it in his own way.
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Grill
Forum General
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:01 am Posts: 8684
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jmovies wrote: A very gripping and moving movie. Definitely Smith's best film to date surpassing The Pursuit of Happyness. Rosario Dawson shined as Emily Posa. You could definitely feel all the trouble she was going through in the film. The chemistry between her and Smith's character Ben Thomas worked and was very well done. The other people Ben helps out in the film also do remarkable in their roles especially Woody Harrelson who plays Ezra Turner. The last few scenes of the film make this film even more wonderful. It has you on the edge of your seat. If you're a huge tearjerker, you will cry your eyes out. Even if you aren't one, you are going to shed atleast one tear. This film has a great message and hoefully it has a leggy run at the box office. The critics got this all wrong.
A+ so what was the point of originally I was thinking he was sick but than I guessed he was feeling guilty about the accident
but I thought they would make a bigger deal of that now he has refound love and that would make the ending decision harder.
wonder how the book differs from the movie, if at all.
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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i like how Evan reviewed this movie twice.
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Yeah, yeah, yeah - - I get what this movie's sellin', but the fact is, I'm just not buyin'...
I found this movie repulsive.
0 out of 5.
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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yoshue wrote: A.O. Scott 1, Seven Pounds 0 http://movies.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/movies/19seve.htmlQuote: Frankly, though, I don't see how any review could really spoil what may be among the most transcendently, eye-poppingly, call-your-friend-ranting-in-the-middle-of-the-night-just-to-go-over-it-one-more-time crazily awful motion pictures ever made. I would tell you to go out and see it for yourself, but you might take that as a recommendation rather than a plea for corroboration. Did I really see what I thought I saw? tony scott ftw Yep! AO Scott's glowing review of Freddy Got Fingered demonstrates that he see's movies clearer than most. I can't say I'm not a bit of a Scott fanboy...
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Goktor Who
Angels & Demons
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:27 pm Posts: 235
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If something dreadful ever happens to me and I (god forbid) decide to kill myself, I'm going to use a jellyfish. BUT... I'm going to leave a series of carefully laid-out clues that make it look like the jellyfish got out of the sea and all the way to my bathroom by itself, just to kill me.
These clues will include stuff like the following.
A trail of seawater leading from an open window, across the carpet and all the way to the bathroom.
Jellyfish traces underneath my fingernails to indicate a struggle.
A message on my answerphone, voiced by an actor, saying, "Hello Goktor. It's me, the jellyfish. You have twenty-four hours to find my money."
Etc..
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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This movie was funny. Jellyfish...hehe. It's a cliched mess with a weak twist. The film makers think they're smarter than the audience and that the ending will be some huge surprise. It's not and when you build it up as such you have an epic fail. Also, every storyline outside of Rosario was completely underdeveloped. And then the brother at the end just goes "Oh he helped out these people too." I like Will Smith though.
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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The best thing about this film was being able to hear Muse half way through it. What a pleasant surprise!
Ordinarily I like to write proper reviews that support my opinion, but I don't feel like it right now. Maybe later.
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Peace, Mike
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15571 Location: Everywhere
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I do think the filmmakers are smart...
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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QFT 
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14626 Location: LA / NYC
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I saw this about a week ago and forgot to post my thoughts. I think this movie is seriously underrated. It's quite melodramatic at times and the "twist" is painfully obvious from the getgo, but both Will Smith and Rosario Dawson are great in their roles and elevate the material to a different level - especially Dawson, who I absolutely loved here. My biggest problem with the film? The ending. It should have ended with Dawson's character receiving the heart or even the brother explaining the situation to her character. The whole epilogue thing with Woody Harrelson was incredibly cheesy and didn't work at all. Otherwise though, this is a very solid drama and didn't deserve the critical lambasting it received. B+
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Alex Y.
Top Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:47 pm Posts: 5824
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Many of the criticisms people have against this movie can be applied to Benjamin Button as well.
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:56 pm |
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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not taking the time to write a full mini-review because, frankly, it is not bad or good enough to deserve several hundred words of my praise/contempt. Instead it will have to settle for a 1 paragraph analysis.
Seven Pounds starts off with a blast. The intro scene with a short narrative from Smith and some strange symbolism from Muccino is a great beginning. However that is the last great thing in this film. As the plot moves along the considerably charming Smith provides both strong and relatable human emotion, accompanied by some lighthearted smiles and easy conversation. However a spotty script that creates some inspired but also some hackneyed dialogue, and a less than sturdy hand behind the camera provide considerable shortcommings. Also Muccino does not seem nearly as intent nor ambitious during his sophmore effort as he was for Pursuit of Happyness. However the acting does level out these flaws some, as Smiths costar, Rosario Dawson, provides an almost as interesting character as Smith, and she's almost as believable as well. The final dramatic twist, and the thrillingly finish go a long ways to make you forget the flaws of this film, however they don't go all the way. And while this movie is certainly emotional, and a rather powerful experience, it is not particularly entertaining nor especially engaging. Seven Pounds makes for a good first watch, and the suspenseful plot is memorable enough, but I don't really have an interest in watching it again, it just isn't that watchable, in spite of strong performances. 7.5/10
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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What an awful piece of trash. The critics are right, this is ridiculous. The sentimental aspect of the film does not work for me, simply because nearly every scene feels very manipulated to give a response. It's off-putting.
And not even Crash went this far with it's pretentiousness.
Also the ending, as emotional as everyone feels I thought it was probably one of the most selfish acts I've ever seen on film. I was annoyed, and made me even more unsympathetic to his character. I know the film didn't exactly show other people reacting to the whole "7 lives things" but why pass the guilt onto someone else. Why let someone fall in love with you, and then kill yourself the day after. Yes, I'm sure a rational person would be ok with that.
If you are person that relies on rationality, then you will fucking hate this. The only thing that stops me from giving this movie a full F, is the acting. Which I thought was really solid.
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The Mr Pink
What would Jesus *not* do?
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:55 am Posts: 829 Location: Going Up the Down Escalator
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I avoided all early reviews and potential spoiler pieces prior to seeing this so that I could go in with an open mind and no preconceived notions. With that being said, If you can't see where this is headed from the very beginning then you obviously weren't paying attention. The only way it could've been more obvious was to spell it out literally with subtitles. I'm willing to give Smith a lot leeway because of his past efforts but this is where his luck runs out. Seven Pounds was an over-the-top, melodramatic, sappy, cheese fest that lacked any heart or merited any sympathy. And the suicide by jellyfish was just the icing on the turd. Had they stripped away everything but the love story between him and Emily the film might have had a chance. But they didn't and the film was an insulting mess as a result.
Grade C-
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15571 Location: Everywhere
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getluv wrote: D
What an awful piece of trash. The critics are right, this is ridiculous. The sentimental aspect of the film does not work for me, simply because nearly every scene feels very manipulated to give a response. It's off-putting. Trash? Trash is something that you have no more use for. You know, responding to an argument without talking about the issue. Using things like 'plumber' and 'demented homeless person' to argue ideas. I don't think the movie is perfect, but manipulation? The thing is that manipulation involves thinking. If anything tries to deal with complicated ideas, will you consider it manipulative? Quote: And not even Crash went this far with it's pretentiousness. Crash? lol. What about A History of Violence or There Will Be Blood? Quote: Also the ending, as emotional as everyone feels I thought it was probably one of the most selfish acts I've ever seen on film. I was annoyed, and made me even more unsympathetic to his character. I know the film didn't exactly show other people reacting to the whole "7 lives things" but why pass the guilt onto someone else. Why let someone fall in love with you, and then kill yourself the day after. Yes, I'm sure a rational person would be ok with that. Um...in the movie wasn't it a question of what was needed? Quote: If you are person that relies on rationality, then you will fucking hate this. The only thing that stops me from giving this movie a full F, is the acting. Which I thought was really solid. Why are you picking rationality in this case? heh, I don't remember you talking about rationality before... I liked Will Smith in this.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15571 Location: Everywhere
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The Mr Pink wrote: I avoided all early reviews and potential spoiler pieces prior to seeing this so that I could go in with an open mind and no preconceived notions. With that being said, If you can't see where this is headed from the very beginning then you obviously weren't paying attention. The only way it could've been more obvious was to spell it out literally with subtitles. I'm willing to give Smith a lot leeway because of his past efforts but this is where his luck runs out. Seven Pounds was an over-the-top, melodramatic, sappy, cheese fest that lacked any heart or merited any sympathy. And the suicide by jellyfish was just the icing on the turd. Had they stripped away everything but the love story between him and Emily the film might have had a chance. But they didn't and the film was an insulting mess as a result.
Grade C- You predicted the jellyfish? There has not been luck in Smith's career. You pick the right movies, and that works for itself. I did think it had heart; I didn't think the tone was that great.
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:33 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
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The Mr Pink wrote: If you can't see where this is headed from the very beginning then you obviously weren't paying attention. The only way it could've been more obvious was to spell it out literally with subtitles. Heh. Maybe you've got somethin' there! They've been re-releasing musicals recently in a Sing-A-Long version, perhaps the producers of Seven Pounds could go with an Emote-A-Long version to further telegraph the plot points for the snivelers who enjoyed this and who are looking to be banged even harder over the head by the screenplay... 
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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getluv wrote: D
What an awful piece of trash. The critics are right, this is ridiculous. The sentimental aspect of the film does not work for me, simply because nearly every scene feels very manipulated to give a response. It's off-putting.
And not even Crash went this far with it's pretentiousness.
Also the ending, as emotional as everyone feels I thought it was probably one of the most selfish acts I've ever seen on film. I was annoyed, and made me even more unsympathetic to his character. I know the film didn't exactly show other people reacting to the whole "7 lives things" but why pass the guilt onto someone else. Why let someone fall in love with you, and then kill yourself the day after. Yes, I'm sure a rational person would be ok with that.
If you are person that relies on rationality, then you will fucking hate this. The only thing that stops me from giving this movie a full F, is the acting. Which I thought was really solid. He sacrificed himself for the woman he loved. that was the only way she could survive. Did you honestly miss that?
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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Benjamin Milk wrote: getluv wrote: D
What an awful piece of trash. The critics are right, this is ridiculous. The sentimental aspect of the film does not work for me, simply because nearly every scene feels very manipulated to give a response. It's off-putting.
And not even Crash went this far with it's pretentiousness.
Also the ending, as emotional as everyone feels I thought it was probably one of the most selfish acts I've ever seen on film. I was annoyed, and made me even more unsympathetic to his character. I know the film didn't exactly show other people reacting to the whole "7 lives things" but why pass the guilt onto someone else. Why let someone fall in love with you, and then kill yourself the day after. Yes, I'm sure a rational person would be ok with that.
If you are person that relies on rationality, then you will fucking hate this. The only thing that stops me from giving this movie a full F, is the acting. Which I thought was really solid. He sacrificed himself for the woman he loved. that was the only way she could survive. Did you honestly miss that? the brother shouldnt have showed her all that stuff. She didn't need to know/understand why he did it.
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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and Smith's character would have been institutionalised in real life.
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