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Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
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 Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
Sam Raimi has been promoting the DVD release of his Ghost House Pictures’ The Grudge this past week, so of course while talking with him Now Playing snuck in a few Spider-Man questions as soon as the webslinging director let his guard down. And while Raimi’s spider-sense was tingling – keeping him from revealing too many details about the next Spidey film – he did confirm for us that a villain for Spider-Man 3 has been settled on.
A lot of fans have high hopes that the villain in Spidey 3 will be Venom, a more modern foe for the wallcrawler than the first two films’ Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Of course, Raimi isn’t saying whether we’ll see the symbiote-suited Venom in the next film or not, but he does explain that the choice of villains also comes down to a balance between character and the cool visual aspect that modern special effects allow (and that would surely make for an amazing Venom, by the way).
“Absolutely we wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven’t seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers,†says Raimi.
Spider-Man 3 is currently targeted for a May 2007 release.
Full Story!
uuuuuuhh!!  nice hint!
i sure hope its Venom! but who knows!
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:25 pm |
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Ahmed Johnson
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Perhaps they will change it so the jealous/vengeful/etc friend is Harry not Brock
AND HARRY WILL BE VENOM =D>
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:34 pm |
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Algren
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They need Venom, without Venom, i will not see the film in cinemas.
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andaroo1
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
matatonio wrote: he did confirm for us that a villain for Spider-Man 3 has been settled on.
They probably decided this 3 or 4 years ago.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:48 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
matatonio wrote: Sam Raimi has been promoting the DVD release of his Ghost House Pictures’ The Grudge this past week, so of course while talking with him Now Playing snuck in a few Spider-Man questions as soon as the webslinging director let his guard down. And while Raimi’s spider-sense was tingling – keeping him from revealing too many details about the next Spidey film – he did confirm for us that a villain for Spider-Man 3 has been settled on. A lot of fans have high hopes that the villain in Spidey 3 will be Venom, a more modern foe for the wallcrawler than the first two films’ Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Of course, Raimi isn’t saying whether we’ll see the symbiote-suited Venom in the next film or not, but he does explain that the choice of villains also comes down to a balance between character and the cool visual aspect that modern special effects allow (and that would surely make for an amazing Venom, by the way). “Absolutely we wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven’t seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers,” says Raimi. Spider-Man 3 is currently targeted for a May 2007 release. Full Story!uuuuuuhh!!  nice hint! i sure hope its Venom! but who knows!
Your a little late on this news..
:wink:
http://worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3920
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:42 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
BKB_The_Man wrote: matatonio wrote: Sam Raimi has been promoting the DVD release of his Ghost House Pictures’ The Grudge this past week, so of course while talking with him Now Playing snuck in a few Spider-Man questions as soon as the webslinging director let his guard down. And while Raimi’s spider-sense was tingling – keeping him from revealing too many details about the next Spidey film – he did confirm for us that a villain for Spider-Man 3 has been settled on. A lot of fans have high hopes that the villain in Spidey 3 will be Venom, a more modern foe for the wallcrawler than the first two films’ Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Of course, Raimi isn’t saying whether we’ll see the symbiote-suited Venom in the next film or not, but he does explain that the choice of villains also comes down to a balance between character and the cool visual aspect that modern special effects allow (and that would surely make for an amazing Venom, by the way). “Absolutely we wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven’t seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers,†says Raimi. Spider-Man 3 is currently targeted for a May 2007 release. Full Story!uuuuuuhh!!  nice hint! i sure hope its Venom! but who knows! Your a little late on this news.. :wink: http://worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3920
its not the same Articule! :wink:
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:51 am |
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Raziel
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
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Personally Im hoping for the Lizard... I was never a Venom fan, I just think the origin of his symbiote suit and all that stuff will be too freaky sci-fi.
In the comics the symbiote suit was obtained by SpiderMan on another planet in Secret Wars and then he brought it back to earth where it slowly tried to take over his body. He finally managed to get the suit off his body using sound waves and the suit slinked away into the darkness where it found its way to Brock.
Now, how the hell are they gonna pack all of that outlandish Secret Wars sci-fi stuff into SpideyIII?
The first two spidey movies stuck very closely to pre-existing stories that were actually written in classic issues of the Spiderman comic. And the films turned out great.
I'd just hate to see some writers forcing out a story just to put Venom on the screen just because he would be a "cool candidate for special effects". Since when has special effects ever saved a movie. If the story sucks there isnt any amount of FX that's gonna save it.
The story should be priority one, not wasting creativity on trying to work some "eye candy" character into a movie.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:49 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
matatonio wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: matatonio wrote: Sam Raimi has been promoting the DVD release of his Ghost House Pictures’ The Grudge this past week, so of course while talking with him Now Playing snuck in a few Spider-Man questions as soon as the webslinging director let his guard down. And while Raimi’s spider-sense was tingling – keeping him from revealing too many details about the next Spidey film – he did confirm for us that a villain for Spider-Man 3 has been settled on. A lot of fans have high hopes that the villain in Spidey 3 will be Venom, a more modern foe for the wallcrawler than the first two films’ Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Of course, Raimi isn’t saying whether we’ll see the symbiote-suited Venom in the next film or not, but he does explain that the choice of villains also comes down to a balance between character and the cool visual aspect that modern special effects allow (and that would surely make for an amazing Venom, by the way). “Absolutely we wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven’t seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers,” says Raimi. Spider-Man 3 is currently targeted for a May 2007 release. Full Story!uuuuuuhh!!  nice hint! i sure hope its Venom! but who knows! Your a little late on this news.. :wink: http://worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3920its not the same Articule! :wink:
Actually it is the same cause I put the word "UPDATED" in the title with the info I got from here:
http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/772/2/
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:08 am |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
BKB_The_Man wrote: Actually it is the same cause I put the word "UPDATED" in the title with the info I got from Superherohype about it..
......whatever, if this is a huge problem they can lock the thread, doesnt matter

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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:11 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
matatonio wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Actually it is the same cause I put the word "UPDATED" in the title with the info I got from Superherohype about it..
......whatever, if this is a huge problem they can lock the thread, doesnt matter 
Oh hell, I don't care.. I wasn't ragging on you or anything about it.. :wink:
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:20 am |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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 Re: Sam Raimi on the Spider-Man 3 Villain
BKB_The_Man wrote: matatonio wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Actually it is the same cause I put the word "UPDATED" in the title with the info I got from Superherohype about it..
......whatever, if this is a huge problem they can lock the thread, doesnt matter  Oh hell, I don't care.. I wasn't ragging on you or anything about it.. :wink:
ooooooK then! :wink:
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:25 am |
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NCAR
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BTW, I think Secret Wars was one of the best comic book series ever!
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:14 am |
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MovieDude
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It depends if they'll have three or four movies. If only three, they should have Henry as Hobgoblin and The Lizard. If not, Venom in 3 and then those two in four.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:20 pm |
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El Maskado
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MovieDude wrote: It depends if they'll have three or four movies. If only three, they should have Henry as Hobgoblin and The Lizard. If not, Venom in 3 and then those two in four.
Venom's story is going to need alot more time to explain since it took almost 5 comic book chapters I believe to bring his interaction with Spiderman. Its going to take more than an hour to explain how Eddie Brock use to be a reporter but was fired because Spiderman unintentionally exposed that one of Brock's informant gave him the wrong id of a serial killer named Sin Eater. It also then has to go through the process where Brock becomes unemployed, goes through a depression and takes up body building to ease tension. It also has to explain how the symbiant comes in contact with Peter Parker...wait one sec..
Could it be that Sam Raimi suggest that how Peter Parker comes in contact with the symbiant back in 1984?
Maybe we dont really see the red and blue Spiderman but more of the black version of him till he rejects the symbiant on the next movie which brings us to Venom. Man thats too much of a story. If they screw up Venom's story like making him Harry Osborn or Jameson's son, it will piss alot of comicbook fans. Hopefully they will still stick with Brock
I think part 3 should add in the Sinister 6(adjusted some villians minus Greengoblin and Doc Ock. Think about it, how does Spiderman defeat Scorpion, Sandman, Hobgoblin, Mysterio, Vulture, Hydroman and led by Hobgoblin(Harry Osborn). He cant beat him until he later on encounters the alien symbiant form which Sam Riami maybe referring to. He ditches his red and blue costume in favor of the black alien form. In the meantime, they can explain how Eddie Brock screws up some report about the Sinister 6 in the end and goes through a depression while Peter Parker struggles to get rid of the symbiant form because its taking control over his mind too much in the same way as a drug dealer.
Part 4 can be the big battle when Peter Parker ditches the symbiant form but the symbiant has now found a new host in Eddie Brock filled with hatred for Spiderman
I would go for something like that idea since it helps build more time for Venom's character and establishes a more powerful villian if Peter Parker was able to defeat 6 villians using the symbiant form
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:38 pm |
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Sinister 6 would be great (I love the Island of Adventure 3D ride).
I actually don't have a problem with multiple supervillians in a movie. Just because Batman and Robin fucked it up with 3, doesn't mean it can't work.
3 worked fine in Batman Returns.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:09 pm |
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El Maskado
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Since they dont really cast known actors for the role of villians because of the pay, I think this guy would make a great Eddie Brock. He has been in a few good roles and hes about the right age and build
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:20 pm |
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MovieDude
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: MovieDude wrote: It depends if they'll have three or four movies. If only three, they should have Henry as Hobgoblin and The Lizard. If not, Venom in 3 and then those two in four. Venom's story is going to need alot more time to explain since it took almost 5 comic book chapters I believe to bring his interaction with Spiderman. Its going to take more than an hour to explain how Eddie Brock use to be a reporter but was fired because Spiderman unintentionally exposed that one of Brock's informant gave him the wrong id of a serial killer named Sin Eater. It also then has to go through the process where Brock becomes unemployed, goes through a depression and takes up body building to ease tension. It also has to explain how the symbiant comes in contact with Peter Parker...wait one sec.. Could it be that Sam Raimi suggest that how Peter Parker comes in contact with the symbiant back in 1984?  Maybe we dont really see the red and blue Spiderman but more of the black version of him till he rejects the symbiant on the next movie which brings us to Venom. Man thats too much of a story. If they screw up Venom's story like making him Harry Osborn or Jameson's son, it will piss alot of comicbook fans. Hopefully they will still stick with Brock I think part 3 should add in the Sinister 6(adjusted some villians minus Greengoblin and Doc Ock. Think about it, how does Spiderman defeat Scorpion, Sandman, Hobgoblin, Mysterio, Vulture, Hydroman and led by Hobgoblin(Harry Osborn). He cant beat him until he later on encounters the alien symbiant form which Sam Riami maybe referring to. He ditches his red and blue costume in favor of the black alien form. In the meantime, they can explain how Eddie Brock screws up some report about the Sinister 6 in the end and goes through a depression while Peter Parker struggles to get rid of the symbiant form because its taking control over his mind too much in the same way as a drug dealer. Part 4 can be the big battle when Peter Parker ditches the symbiant form but the symbiant has now found a new host in Eddie Brock filled with hatred for Spiderman I would go for something like that idea since it helps build more time for Venom's character and establishes a more powerful villian if Peter Parker was able to defeat 6 villians using the symbiant form
It'd be a fanboy dream come true, but I think that's way too many villians and subplot and would heavily dilute the story. Why not just have Jameson get the symbiote back from his latest astronaut gig, Spidey gets it for about 45 minutes, he rejects it, then it goes into Jameson? We already have a character who would obviously be jealous and angry, got the means and the motive. It'd make it a lot more realistic and easy, who cares if it's not the exact same character who hasn't even been introduced yet? Mary Jane didn't come along until college after Gwen (?) had died, but instead Raimi melded the two together, and no one really minds.
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El Maskado
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MovieDude wrote: It'd be a fanboy dream come true, but I think that's way too many villians and subplot and would heavily dilute the story. Why not just have Jameson get the symbiote back from his latest astronaut gig, Spidey gets it for about 45 minutes, he rejects it, then it goes into Jameson? We already have a character who would obviously be jealous and angry, got the means and the motive. It'd make it a lot more realistic and easy, who cares if it's not the exact same character who hasn't even been introduced yet? Mary Jane didn't come along until college after Gwen (?) had died, but instead Raimi melded the two together, and no one really minds.
Well most of those villians I metioned dont really have a complex story at all. For all we know Mysterio could just be a Vegas magician and the Vulture is some sort of engineer who has mechanics to help him glide from one building to another. Hydroman and Sandman would have to take some time to explain their freakiness or nature. As for Jameson being jealous of Peter Parker, I doubt it since he asked Mary Jane to invite Peter Parker to the wedding even though he knew she had feelings for him. I also mentioned that its way too early to introduce Venom just yet but if you tie everything about my story with Brock screwing up the report for Hobgoblin, it would need to a climatic 4th sequel for Spideyman :razz: . Not to mention Spiderman 3 can introduce the symbiant alien, just that it hasnt bonded with Brock yet but with Peter Parker instead
Trust me about this leaving out Brock from the Venom story will piss out alot of Spidey fans. Its much different than having Mary Jane coming into Peter's life when the comics show Gwen was his first real girlfriend and Betty Brant always flirting with Peter Parker
What you are asking them to do is do a VINO (Venom in Name Only) kind of like CINO
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