The Official Movie Release Date Schedule
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Excel
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when it barely gets a 2 multipler, its safe to say wom sucked. 
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Mr. Inc
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..it sucked.
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MovieDude
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Magnus wrote: Spider-Man wrote: Vantage Point - February 22, 2008 (from February 15, 2008) College - April 25, 2008 (from January 4, 2008) Good move for Vantage. Presidnets Day was too crowded. Very true. I mean, I know that this past year everything held it's own but Step Up 2, Spiderwick, Jumper, and Vantage Point all could pull off 30+ million over the four day (not to mention the other handful of releases opening on Valentine's Day), so they really needed to spread out.
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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Excel wrote: when it barely gets a 2 multipler, its safe to say wom sucked.  fuck off. WB JLA is major shitass movie.
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:13 pm |
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MovieDude
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I hate to say it, but I agree with LadiesMan. Look at the thread listing all the multipliers films have had this year and Fantastic Four 2 is surrounded by plenty of films that I think had good to even great WOM, but were either severely frontloaded due to competition/quick theater shedding/the nature of their audience. These days a 2.27 multiplier isn't an automatic indicator of bad WOM, as shocking as that may sound.
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MovieDude
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Magnus wrote: 2.27 multiplier even in this age indicates pretty much bad WOM. SM3 and F42 got simliar multipliers, and both I feel got bad WOM. It's hard to tell which one had the worse WOM based on legs, but the fact is that both bad WOM. Your analysis is flawed because you use two examples of bad WOM to justify all films of such multipliers having bad WOM. I'm not saying films with bad WOM won't have multipliers that low, but rather that 2.27 doesn't mean WOM will be bad. If you need examples, I don't think The Lookout, Alpha Dog, TMNT, Smokin' Aces or Zodiac had bad WOM, even though they had the same multipliers as The Messengers, Halloween, WAR, Dragon Wars etc.
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MovieDude
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Magnus wrote: When comparing two summer blockbusters to another which appeal to simliar demographs, multiplier is still a great indication. Anything less than a 2.3 multiplier, even for a frontloaded uber-blockbuster, does not indicate good WOM at all. Now, a film with bad WOM can still get above 2.5+ multiplier, but no way does a film get below a 2.3 multiplier without bad WOM.
Films like Lookout, Smokin Aces, etc. are not blockbuster films. They come in and out of theaters fast. Smokin Aces lost half of its theaters in its fourth weekend. Even with good WOM, a film can't get legs if it loses so many theaters/screens.
Comparing a film like SM3 to Smokin Aces is not a good idea. But comparing two simliar films like F4 and SM3 is as good as you can get these days.
And don't even try to use the whole "WOM doesn't affect blockbusters." Transformers, DH4, Bourne Ultamtum, etc. are clear examples at how good WOM can lead to good legs even if a film has a huge opening.
F42 had bad WOM. Live with it. Excuse me, but when did I ever say that I thought Fantastic Four 2 didn't have bad WOM? I'm merely pointing out that multipliers are receding faster than Nicolas Cage's hairline. Thus, while I do believe a 2.27 multiplier would've been a great indicator of awful WOM for a big blockbuster several years ago, it's now much hazier. And you got the wrong guy if you think I'm getting at WOM not affecting blockbusters, that's a ridiculous concept and nothing I was saying implied that. Beyond that, plenty of blockbusters that have little staying power have their legs further reduced by theaters being shedded quicker, especially when there's that many more theaters to spare. As long as we're using examples against one another, while Smokin' Aces lost half it's theaters by weekend four, Fantastic Four had 1/3 of it's theaters by weekend five. That's not much different. Really, it's only the most mishandled releases that are out of theaters by weekend three, and if the movie is given many more weekends than that I don't think it matters how big the film is for it's legs to be any stronger than a smaller film. But really, going example to example is useless, especially when you seem to be trying to convince me that F42 had bad WOM, while I'm arguing about something completely different.
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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I think DBZ is coming in 2009. Maybe in june or end of july.
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MadGez
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Never heard of Eagle Eye. So a bit of a surprise.
My concern is that the studios will overload the beginning of august and leave the rest a wasteland due to the Olympics which would be just stupid.
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Beowulf now opens November 15, 2007 at 9pm.
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:49 pm |
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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Spider-Man wrote: Beowulf now opens November 15, 2007 at 9pm. cool. Either paramount is confident about its prospects at BO or they are hoping that if WOM is good then it will spread fast and help the movie on friday.
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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Magnus wrote: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=39282
CS says that the DBZ film is coming August 15th, 2008. This also has been reported on MovieWeb, so I think we can pretty much say it's offical. Honestly...that is a PERFECT release date. I mean, a lot is wrong with this project but that release date is pretty much perfect. This film just screams August release. It actually has a shot to maybe get some decent numbers with that slot EVEN IF the film looks like shit. Films like AVP, Freddy v. Jason, and Mortal Kombat had the same exact mid-August release date and all were able to be fairly big hits due to big openings.
I actually think the film could possibly do 30m/70m. Yes, everything looks horrible for this project...but AVP and FvJ were kind of in the same situation as this. And this does have Fox's marketing behind it, and that can work wonders sometimes. I mean, I think this movie will suck but...fact is that DBZ is a big brand. And brand sells in summer. Just look at summer 2007. All the big hits were brands. Hell, even films like KU and Superbad are brands (Judd Apatow brand). DBZ is a brand and that tagged with a great release date and Fox's marketing could seriously be enough to give it a 30m+ OW.
As crazy as this sounds, this film could have just possibly made August 2008 complete. MadGez said he feared late-August wouldn't be crowded, well DBZ may have just solved that problem Looking at that schedule, we should have a pretty big August. Not August 2007 big, but big nonetheless.
July 2008 is the only summer month that has scheduling problems I feel. The first two weeks of July just seem fairly weak with just Hancock, Tropic Thunder, and Hellboy. The first-half of July is a prime-slot for films and should be reserved for big films. July 2007 had Transformers/HP5, July 2006 had SR/POTC2, July 2005 had WOTW, July 2004 had SM2, etc.
TDK should move up a week where it belongs, while Tropic Thunder should move down a week. Hellboy should just get the fuck out of summer. It doesn't belong there. It should either be a spring or a fall movie. An October opening sounds better for it.
The optimal schedule would have TDK opening on Wed. July 9th (same spot as HP5 which did fantastic in that slot) and Tropic Thunder open July 18th. The only issue with this is that Tropic Thunder and Step Brothers will only be one week apart. However, we had a five-week strech this year where Chuck&Larry, Simpsons movie, Rush Hour 3, and Superbad all opened, and aside from RH3, all the films met or surpassed expectations. I feel that stech shows that comedies can co-exist in the summer. So I think Tropic Thunder and Step Brothers can both co-exist.
Aside from July, summer 2008 is in great shape. May is good, June is good, and now August is good. July just needs to do the changes I said and I feel summer 2008 may actually be a pretty balanced schedule. horrible release date for DBZ. Also budget is gonna be between $100-125 million so if it does only 70 million then it is a FLOP. Sorry but the movie will get no hype next year becasue of so many other big movies. This should not be releasing before July of 2009.
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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Magnus wrote: Oh, and Fox may just once again have a great summer even when they shouldn't. I initally thought the studio wouldn't have enough films for the summer. Now it looks like it may have THE MOST films from any major studio with a grand total of six films (What Happens in Vegas, Starship Dave, Happening, X-Files, DBZ, and Babylon A.D.)
Summer 2007 should have been a bad summer for Fox with all their projects (F42, DH4, and Simpsons) all looking like they should bomb before summer came. And then bam, all become hits.
Fox may just do their magic yet again. The studio just always somehow manages to work magic during summer time. All the films u mentioned for fox in 2008 will flop. Babylon AD is coming in august same time as DBZ. SHIT RELEASE SCHEDULE. FLOP Starship dave will bomb due to too much competition. What happens in vegas. What the hell is this?? Happening releasing against HULK 2 and other family movies of june. BAD IDEA. X-files. I think it should do OK business.
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I don't know why but i have this feeling that this release date is temporary like DBZ and it will move to November or December 2008 since fox moved X-files 2 up in summer.
Btw does DBZ have bigger fanbase than eragon or smaller??
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Excel
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Angels and Demons moves to May 15th, 2009.
Poor move; not only is gonna do much worse than DC but it is going to be against Justice League unless they change their mind now.
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Excel wrote: Angels and Demons moves to May 15th, 2009.
Poor move; not only is gonna do much worse than DC but it is going to be against Justice League unless they change their mind now. wtf!! MAY 2009 will be so jam packed but nothing except AVATAR and JLA interests me.
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:33 pm |
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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NATM 2 won't come out now until summer 2009 according to DHD.
Bad move. That should not be releasing in any other place except winter 2009.
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:30 am |
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G.I. Joe - 8/7/09 The Lovely Bones - 3/13/09 Marley and Me - 12/19/08
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Excel
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pj needs to start making big movies again
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Magnus wrote: Um...what kind of release date is that for Lovley Bones? Isn't this supposed to be like an award-contender? Didn't Paramount learn from Zodiac? Don't release an award-contender film in March. It doesn't do well. God, studios sometimes are just so stupid when making release schedules.
I guess that's a good release for G.I. Joe. I really don't think the film will do well. It's not a Transforemrs.
Marley and Me would have sounded like a good film...if Owen Wilson didn't try to commit suicide. I don't know if his image will be better by the time this comes out even a year from now. An oscar type movie like TLB releasing in march is bad move. Also if GI JOE is releasing in august then according to everyone theory of DBZ releasing in august means that the movie won't have the big movie feel to it should just shut up. Because all GI JOE fans will now get nuts and say "fuck ya gi joe rocks blah blah" but the truth is that this gi joe movie too will suck donkey ass and will not be marketed as a big movie and not do more than $50 million domestically. DBZ is much cooler than GI JOE.
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Magnus wrote: Um...what kind of release date is that for Lovley Bones? Isn't this supposed to be like an award-contender? Didn't Paramount learn from Zodiac? Don't release an award-contender film in March. It doesn't do well. God, studios sometimes are just so stupid when making release schedules. This raised my eyebrows as well. It was said end of 2008 all along and now they're postponing it, despite the fact that the movie will be finished long before that. Even if it wasn't an Oscar vehicle, end of 2008 seems favorable over March 2009. No?
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LadiesMan217 wrote: DBZ is much cooler than GI JOE.
As if the fanbase is fighting each other. I like how when you try to slip and segway into promoting another movie when the whole subject had nothing really to do with the other.
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Outatime wrote: G.I. Joe - 8/7/09 The Lovely Bones - 3/13/09 Marley and Me - 12/19/08 JESUS that took a long time. I mean, even giving the guy a 2 year break after the ROTK dvd was released would mean it took almost 3 years for him to release his next one.
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MovieDude
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Raffiki wrote: Outatime wrote: G.I. Joe - 8/7/09 The Lovely Bones - 3/13/09 Marley and Me - 12/19/08 JESUS that took a long time. I mean, even giving the guy a 2 year break after the ROTK dvd was released would mean it took almost 3 years for him to release his next one. You'd want a break too if you had just gotten done spending over 500 million on four movies in that timespan. 
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MadGez
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MovieDude wrote: Raffiki wrote: Outatime wrote: G.I. Joe - 8/7/09 The Lovely Bones - 3/13/09 Marley and Me - 12/19/08 JESUS that took a long time. I mean, even giving the guy a 2 year break after the ROTK dvd was released would mean it took almost 3 years for him to release his next one. You'd want a break too if you had just gotten done spending over 500 million on four movies in that timespan.  He forgot King Kong too. So give PJ a 2 year break after Kong (and all the LOTR films and DVD EE's) so that takes us to Dec 07 - then thats only a 1 and a bit years to The Lovely Bones. I'd even call him a workaholic 
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