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 Re: WALL-E
Magnus wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Technically humans caused the destruction in I Am Legend. It was an accident though and it all happen at once. The Earth in Wall-E got destroyed over a period of time. It's a real major difference that changes the emotional impact. It wasn't destroyed, it was transformed.
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JURiNG
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I don't get the whole dialogueless part being so genius. I mean Tom & Jerry did it for years, and their comedy is vastly superior to Wall-E's comedy.
I hate to bursts people's bubbles, but Wall-E isn't as revolutionary as people think besides being a non-mainstream for a wide release film, but Ratatouille did that the year before. But Tom&Jerry is only 3-minute long.. had it been an hour long film, it would get boring at some point.. Wall-E managed to entertain me throughout 120 minutes plus.. "their comedy is vastly superior to Wall-E's comedy" I disagree.. plus, talking about emotional impact from the dialogueless screenplay = Wall-E >>>>>>> Tom&Jerry it's BRILLIANT 
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Chippy
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 I hate people who don't love this movie.
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Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:11 am |
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billybobwashere
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where are the four people who gave this an "F" ?
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Shack
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Both Wall-E and I Am Legend's desolate city shot openings borrowed directly from The Omega Man. Wall-E is full of sci-fi homages actually, away from the obvious Hal 3000 bit.
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I'm not even going to try and bother to give extensive thoughts on the film because they've most likely been covered in the first 19+ pages. Let me just say this though. 1995's Toy Story was my favorite Pixar film. To an extent it still probably is. This however, is the best film Pixar has made to date which would be astonishing all to itself. For a company to keep chugging out entertainment at this high quality is something special. But in addition to being the best film Pixar has made to date, not only is it the best film of the year, but it's one of the best films of the decade. Why? Two reasons. The fact that they made a compelling love story with two robots who aren't exactly the most talkative (yet they are through their expressions - by the way, Wall-E's expressions throughout the movie is a big reason why it works. Wall-E could fit in right along side with the best silent film characters) is a work of genius. Only Pixar/Disney could pull this off and they make it seem like they didn't have a hard time doing it. The second is the film's message. There are a few. The one that stuck with me is you can't coast through life. The Wall-E/Eve relationship is a close second with true love and never giving up (the scene where Eve watches the security tape of what happened while Wall-E took care of her is perfect). Now the people on the Axiom didn't have that much of a choice since throughout the 700 years they had simply forgotten and had been brainwashed on how to live a life, but the scene with the captain slowly walking to defeat the auto-robot (the sci-fi references are great) is absurd because it's so simple, and yet you're on the edge of your seat.
Wall-E is simply a special movie. It's an achievement in imagination, animation (it's damn superb and is worth more of an explaination than this parenthesis, but I don't have it in me) and storytelling. It should also be the example that makes the academy get rid of the "Best Animated Feature" category, or to at least allow the films nominated there a shot at the big prize too. Wall-E not only should have a "Best Picture" nomination locked up, but it right now should be the favorite to win it.
If Pixar can top themselves after Wall-E..........
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Chippy
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I LOVE these reviews 
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Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:27 am |
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Mannyisthebest
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I have seen Wall-E 3 times (2 not in theaters)
and It is a great movie, but imo it is nowhere as fun as The Incredbiles or Finding Nemo and the Story in Ratatouille is much better.
It is just that Wall-E first half is some of Pixar's best ever! However the film relies on going "How cute"....
It is still the 2nd best film of the year and will likely be so as well.
I would have like to have seen the film get a bigger box office gross though.
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Tyler
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I don't get the whole dialogueless part being so genius. I mean Tom & Jerry did it for years, and their comedy is vastly superior to Wall-E's comedy.
I hate to bursts people's bubbles, but Wall-E isn't as revolutionary as people think besides being a non-mainstream for a wide release film, but Ratatouille did that the year before. What you're saying isn't as clever as you're pretending it is, either. Everyone here with a three-digit IQ who's watched a Golden Age cartoon after the age of 10 is acknowledging that the film's elements are indebted to its ancestors. Why that is so important is that few animated films today do that. Most are over-scripted crap that rely on context-less pop culture references. Wall-E was modernizing old elements within a great sci-fi story.
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Anton Chigurh wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I don't get the whole dialogueless part being so genius. I mean Tom & Jerry did it for years, and their comedy is vastly superior to Wall-E's comedy.
I hate to bursts people's bubbles, but Wall-E isn't as revolutionary as people think besides being a non-mainstream for a wide release film, but Ratatouille did that the year before. What you're saying isn't as clever as you're pretending it is, either. Everyone here with a three-digit IQ who's watched a Golden Age cartoon after the age of 10 is acknowledging that the film's elements are indebted to its ancestors. Why that is so important is that few animated films today do that. Most are over-scripted crap that rely on context-less pop culture references. Wall-E was modernizing old elements within a great sci-fi story. No need to be a dick about it. I am not calling people ignorant on the matter, just misguided slightly on their thinking by their own amazement. Some people post as if there was never a animation film to tackle something like this, and perhaps no mainstream feature film was attempted so little dialogue, but I guess being a rapid fan of Fantasia and old cartoons lacking dialogue, I am just use to this, and people claiming it as new just is a bit startling as based from my perception of the situation. Yes it is an off kilter for animation of recent, but then Ratatouille already proved Pixar was willing to do my daring and artistic mature work at the full mainstream level with previous films, especially Ratatouille which in its nature seemed to lack a sense of commercialism despite being just that. Once again, there is no need to be rude in a simple discussion.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Anton Chigurh wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I don't get the whole dialogueless part being so genius. I mean Tom & Jerry did it for years, and their comedy is vastly superior to Wall-E's comedy.
I hate to bursts people's bubbles, but Wall-E isn't as revolutionary as people think besides being a non-mainstream for a wide release film, but Ratatouille did that the year before. What you're saying isn't as clever as you're pretending it is, either. Everyone here with a three-digit IQ who's watched a Golden Age cartoon after the age of 10 is acknowledging that the film's elements are indebted to its ancestors. Why that is so important is that few animated films today do that. Most are over-scripted crap that rely on context-less pop culture references. Wall-E was modernizing old elements within a great sci-fi story. No need to be a dick about it. I am not calling people ignorant on the matter, just misguided slightly on their thinking by their own amazement. Some people post as if there was never a animation film to tackle something like this, and perhaps no mainstream feature film was attempted so little dialogue, but I guess being a rapid fan of Fantasia and old cartoons lacking dialogue, I am just use to this, and people claiming it as new just is a bit startling as based from my perception of the situation. Yes it is an off kilter for animation of recent, but then Ratatouille already proved Pixar was willing to do my daring and artistic mature work at the full mainstream level with previous films, especially Ratatouille which in its nature seemed to lack a sense of commercialism despite being just that. Once again, there is no need to be rude in a simple discussion. Heh. If you read the above interaction, only one person is being rude - - Darth Indiana Bond. Despite claiming to not be calling people ignorant, he goes on to make veiled insults claiming just that.
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No, I often say things one way and my tone might sound a certain way because of it, but I am very much not saying that. My main goal was to point out that it has been done before, and if that seemed as though I was calling people ignorant, then I am sorry, in fact if anything it was more of a reminder. If I was being rude in my misguided tone, then I am sorry. As for my stance I well, for a lack of other words, still stand by it in my firm belief that Wall-E is overrated if at all in the sense that it is as revolutionary as people claim it to be for the simple reason that I am well adjusted to animation that has little dialogue, even at the mainstream level, and that for modern animation circa this decade, it is not the first animated film at the mainstream level to attempt something at such a mature height.
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9/10 -> A-
Visually stunning. Emotionally stunning. But naratively it's a bit off. It's not a miss or anything, it's still great, but Pixar nailed the story progress and cohesion much better in almost all of its previous efforts. That's why WALL-E was a bit dissapointing for me.
But, it's definitely the best movie of the year for now.
This won't grab a BP nom. Rattatouille was a much stronger and meatier bait for the Academy and didn't manage to get in.
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So I fiinaLLy saw it. I just couLdn't caLL it the best Pixar movie ever Like how I wanted it to be but it's certainLy just behind Finding Nemo. The whoLe earth storyLine is one of the most groundbreaking, greatest moving images ever put into screen. Those shots of how the earth went to shit were simpLy breathtaking and devastating at the same time (I was so cLose to tearing up because of amazement). It feeLs even more depressing that WALL-E (the most charming animated character to date aLong with EVE) is Left aLone on earth fixing those skyscrapers of garbage. The Axiom/human storyLine though an absoLute eye-opener was the "weaker" part of the fiLm and it wouLd have been a Lot better if they devoted Less to this and a LittLe more to the WALL-E/EVE storyLine instead. It made up for this "weak" part with the ending which aLso nearLy put me to tears. There were Lots of other great scenes and it wouLd take me forever if I mentioned every scene I Loved. The music was great as aLways, though I stiLL find the animation in RatatouiLLe and Finding Nemo to be more impressive perhaps because they were harder to make.
To sum up my thoughts, I think my sky-high expectations and two months of waiting got me wanting the unthinkabLe. It didn't achieve greatest-fiLm-ever status for me, but it's stiLL in my Top 25 and I expect it to get higher upon the next viewings (second viewing wiLL decide on a Lot of things). Oh, and its aLso the best fiLm of the year.
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19. The Godfather (1972) - A 20. The Departed (2006) - A 21. WALL-E (2008) - A 22. ChiLdren of Men (2006) - A 23. Spider-Man 2 (2004) - A
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billybobwashere
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I can't wait to buy this on DVD and watch it a bunch of times. I did this with Wall-E a year ago and it was awesome 
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JURiNG
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Err.. you mean Ratatouille 
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Chippy
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MUCH better than a certain rat film this year... 
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B+
If it wasn't for KJ i would have liked it more, who collectively made the film overrated. Great and cute overall, but the narrative leaves a lot to be desired.
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BK
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Although I give it an A+ the only problem I had with this movie was its running time. It was far too short, made it more of a kids movie then a Pixar movie. If they plan to do adult-themed kids movies it should be as long as Rat. Someone should understand what I'm saying.
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Since I found Ratatouille to be overrated, and think Pixar is consistently good, not brilliant as some suggest, it's with great joy I can say they've reached a peak here.
So, a 94th A.
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trixster
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I'd love to have some of what y'all are smoking.
This is, honestly, a terrible movie. Granted, I'm not the biggest fan of Pixar, or computer animation in general (I find it too perfect, too artificial, to really work in a medium such as film that's all about - or should be all about - the craft), but I can still recognize a good film when I see it. I love The Incredibles and the Toy Storys and Monsters Inc. and even A Bug's Life. But with Ratatouille and now this, I think I'm just gonna have to come to the conclusion that I just don't get it.
I mean, there are some moments in here that are admittedly brilliant. Basically everything up until they go into space, although I couldn't full buy into the love story. But just Wall-E, puttering around on Earth all alone, collecting little treasures and making skyscrapers of garbage? I thought it was great, if a little overbearing (subtlety has never been Pixar's strong suit). When Eve is introduced, it stumbled a little (I found the romance a bit more disturbing than cute - and not because they were robots), but still managed to work. I didn't love the film, but I could understand where the love was coming from.
Once they go into space, though, it just dies. I have never seen a more blatant attempt at moral commentary in all my film-watching days. It just keeps bashing you over the head repeatedly until you have no idea what they're trying to say. Everything on the ship - from the overweight humans to the giant billboards to the faulty robots - is an exercise in obviousness. And it doesn't help that the love story is transformed into a generic "save the damsel in distress" plot. Even the define dancing bit or the tear-inducing (???) ending didn't do anything for me. And you know you're in trouble when the end credits are more creative and imaginative than anything that came before it.
So I guess I'll just have to disagree with, well, EVERYONE on the site. This is not an Oscar-worthy masterpiece or even a good film. I'm honestly baffled.
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Chippy
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FUCK THAT SHIT. Burn in hell. 
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trixster wrote: but I can still recognize a good film when I see it. Evidently not. Did those daggers prick your eyes, or did their shine blind you?
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In other news, trixster hates sunshine and kicks puppies in his spare time.
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