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Now I notice that more and more, your beginning to see less R Rated Horror Films in favor of PG-13 Horror like the Link provided above for the Upcoming movie "CURSED" which I believe I read was filmed as an R Rated movie, but will now be PG-13... Is this really the case being more to do with Marketing and making more $$$ than the actual violence content of the film separating the ratings??? I still to this day and will always maintain that the ALIEN films with all the overhyped Chest Bursting and whatnot was R Rated back then because that's the only rating they had to offer back in 1979 and that what was shocking and violent back then when it came to this Chest Bursting, is really tame by todays standards and if those films were remade today, they would be PG-13 Rated.. That's why AVP worked as a PG-13 movie as opposed to an R Rating cause Chest Bursting is tame by todays standards compared to back in the late 70's.. JAWS Back in 1975 was Rated PG and showed a Limb floating to the bottom.. Have times changed or what??? So in essence, is PG-13 Horror really that much worse than R Rated Horror material that's mainly R Rated because of the overuse of Profanity more than actual Gore???? DARKNESS was PG-13, The Grudge was PG-13 and both were successful... Would an R Rating really of made it that much better or is this more to do with a Psychological feeling of feeling more grownup when watching an R Rated Horror movie and less looked down to like a Kid if it were PG-13??? Hmmm..

Nope. Its because greedy ass studios try to trim a movie to PG-13 so that kids under 17 can watch it and then also the studios can double dip again by releasing an unrated dvd version. Somehow I wish everyone would boycott either one of those two versions to show the greedy studios. Maybe something like a Napster would show them as they did with greedy record industries who havent lowered the cost of cds in 15 years

Let me ask people here how they would feel if they trimmed off majority of the violence in Kill Bill to make it PG-13 and then release an R rated dvd version later on and then followed by an unrated version of Kill months later the following few months
Most wont be happy. Thats how I feel about movies being trimmed to PG-13. Its one issue about NC-17

KILL BILL was lucky it didn't receive an NC-17 for as Violent as it was.. I guess the thought of a Studio releasing a movie on DVD in a more superior way then when it was shown theatrically is sort of odd and makes me wonder if perhaps there's more $$$ in just releasing movies straight to DVD as opposed to a Movie Theatre??? Maybe if the studios logic in doing this is to propel Home Entertainment$$$$, then maybe will see a future with no movie theatres to go to and instead just buy the movies when there released straight to DVD???

Problem with releasing straight to video is the potential loss of profit through people bootlegging copies. Its the same issue that the record industry had with people bootlegging cd's. If it was shown straight to video, its much harder to gain access through a pirated cam copy of a movie

The chestbursting scene from Alien is in no way "tame" and to compare it to the chestbursting scene from AVP is ridiculous. In that scene in AVP it was a lighting quick shot of and alien bursting out with no visible, or hardly any at all, blood. All of the Alien movies are R. Alien had the chestbursting scene which itself was worthy of an R rating (then and now), Aliens had its own chestbursting scene as well as tons of violence and language, Alien 3 had blood and gore all over the place, Alien:Resurrection has an entire weird sexual undertone to it aside from the blood and gore that is abundant.
Predator had skinned people, the Predator ripping Billy apart, arms being shot off, etc. Predator had just about all of the same things. All of the Alien and Predator movies were R when they were released and are R today. Today's R movies seem a little more tame if anything. A big reason to me that AVP (which i gave a B/B- to) was not as good as previous Alien and Predator movies is its PG13 rating. I don't want to see the aliens about to kill someone and then cut away and hear their scream. I don't want the cursing dialed down to "You ugly son of a bitch" when it should be "mother fucker". It was a combo of the Alien and Predator franchises in which all the movies ranged from R to hard R, so the cutting back to PG13 was a big mistake. Yes, it made 80mil and that was good, but it could have been better.

First of all, Alien was rereleased into theaters last year and still maintained an R rating, BKB - so that argument is bogus.

Secondly, the PG-13 hacking of films that has been going on lately is strictly about money and money alone. More people can see a PG-13 film which equals more butts in the seats which equals more money. Have you been to the theaters lately, BKB? Going to the movies has become the cool thing to do for Middle School aged kids. And what kind of film are they more likely to see? A horror film. It's pretty simple, really.

Its a real shame. I just hope more kids in their early teens arent as interested in pure action films too like Die Hard or Lethal Weapon else they would cut out all the death scenes and nudity to make it PG-13. If thats the future of movies, I may say I cant wait for the next PG-13 Rob Zombie and Paul Verhovan movie coming to a theater near me

The ability to say Profanity openly in a movie doesn't make it the better movie... Back in 1979, we had never been exposed to a scene like an ALIEN bursting from someones chest and therefore, all we had was the R Rating to give it and nothing in between.. 25 Years down the road and we have seen and been exposed to so much in the world of films and I'm sorry, but an ALIEN busting out of someone's chest by todays standards is tame compared to what we've been exposed to since then... It really is no big deal and face it: Times have changed and R movies of the past are PG-13 today and ALIEN would be the same way which is PG-13.. How is an ALIEN bursting from someones chest any worse or graphic than the scene in "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" scene with the guy's heart being pulled out of his chest and that was PG-13 in 1984???

I agree. One way to prove it is, years ago films were rated (in UK) 18, and nowadays due to re-releases on DVD etc they are lowered to 15, this shows that the BBFC have lowered there limits and standards.

As someone has already said, Alien was rereleased and still got an R rating so your opinion is useless (as always).
Lethal Weapon was R and would be R today, Die Hard was R and would be R today.
Cursing doesn't make a movie better, but in some cases more realistic. If people are being shot at or jumping off buildings or having aliens try to kill them then then i don't want to hear them say "butt" or "gosh" or some nonsense like that.
You can keep saying whatever you want (which you will), but an R rated movie (or a movie that should have been R) that is cut down to be PG13 is NEVER a good thing.