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This thread is as silly as the WWW thread after INDY's $25m opening day...
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"Will WALL-E beat TITANIC" is no club of mine, I just asked the question if WALL-E can deliver grosses similar to the adjusted grosses of PHANTOM MENACE and LION KING which would make this a possibility.
I even stated several times in that thread that I don't believe it will beat TITANIC.
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AND AFTER TWO DAYS (and we don't have any hard data of the 2nd day yet) THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT ANYTHING WENT WRONG AND ALL OF THE CLUBS (except the two opening weekend clubs) ARE STILL A POSSIBILITY


a remote possibility. your thread wasn't a question, it was wishful thinking. you could of named it "Wall-E prediction thread" and garnered a response on what others thought it would make. to me it was just another unnecessary thread.

According to Nikki, who is a reliable source
, says that Wall-E hardly rose at all. i mean do we honestly think a film this day in age, especially a near-silent movie for children, is gonna achieve the wonderous heights of what Nemo did. Now Nemo had hype and all sorts of love going for it, this was fan-boy luv. the worst kind of luv there is.


I agree with what you've said in this thread but that no.
She's a fucking retard and should stop being referred to.
I've already ranted in the other thread so no point here.


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Post Re: KJ & Wall-E: What Went Wrong?
Okay, here we have a movie which

-probably will pull off the 2nd biggest June opening of all-time
-will have an opening week above the $100m mark which would make it Pixar's biggest opening week
-has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 96 %
-has an IMDB Score of 9.3 (of course it will go down over time, but it has already garnered 1.724 votes)

and people think the movie deserves a WWW thread?

For God's sake, this is an original movie (just like E.T. and TITANIC), which doesn't break any opening weekend records (just like E.T. and TITANIC) and the sky is the limit...

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Post Re: KJ & Wall-E: What Went Wrong?
I think some people are missing the point of getluv's thread.

Offcourse he's not actually saying anything went wrong with Wall-E's performance so far. What his thread is having a poke at is the ridiculous predictions and clubs that were made which in effect make the film's performance a bit a dissapointment or "epic fail". And he's right about that.

Now I know early days still and Wall-E will still do well and $300m is in play (and even beating Nemo is a chance) but had Nemo been the target - it would have been reasonable. But Titanic?? Come on. As Lecter said - you cant predict such rare performances.

Ironically - getluv's Wanted thread has merit and the film will get close to that target and hell may even make it. Likewise I think we cant discount the Nemo thread OR I am Moses' Top 3 domestic which is definitely a reasonable prediction.

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Okay, here we have a movie which

-probably will pull off the 2nd biggest June opening of all-time AN ACHIEVEMENT. BUT WHY WERE PEOPLE PREDICTING 100M OW AGAIN? MMM, IDK.
-will have an opening week above the $100m mark which would make it Pixar's biggest opening week WELL IMAGINE IF 7/4 WASN'T NEXT WEEK! CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.
-has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 96 % THAT IS PRETTY SAD HOW YOU CONNECT GOOD REVIEWS TO BOX OFFICE SUCCESS. THIS ISN'T A CLINT EASTWOOD FILM.
-has an IMDB Score of 9.3 (of course it will go down over time, but it has already garnered 1.724 votes)YES THOSE 1724 PEOPLE ARE EVERYBODY

and people think the movie deserves a WWW thread? AND WHY DID YOU NOT USE PEOPLE'S PREDICTION TO CONCLUDE THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO OUTGROSS TITANIC. MMM. UNNECESSAY...MMM...POINTLESS...MMM. DIAF

For God's sake, this is an original movie (just like E.T. and TITANIC), which doesn't break any opening weekend records (just like E.T. and TITANIC) and the sky is the limit...WE'RE GOING BACK TO 80s & 90s NOW. AT LEAST THE NEMO EXAMPLE WAS A GOOD ONE.


I expect Harry Potter and any film in July to make sure top 3 doesn't happen.


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I think some people are missing the point of getluv's thread.

Offcourse he's not actually saying anything went wrong with Wall-E's performance so far. What his thread is having a poke at is the ridiculous predictions and clubs that were made which in effect make the film's performance a bit a dissapointment or "epic fail". And he's right about that.

Well, he could have posted that in the HAVE WE HYPED THINGS TOO MUCH) thread, but no, it had to be a WWW thread...

EDIT: As you can see in getluv's colorful post above this one, I do believe that he thinks that something went wrong...

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I think some people are missing the point of getluv's thread.

Offcourse he's not actually saying anything went wrong with Wall-E's performance so far. What his thread is having a poke at is the ridiculous predictions and clubs that were made which in effect make the film's performance a bit a dissapointment or "epic fail". And he's right about that.

Well, he could have posted that in the HAVE WE HYPED THINGS TOO MUCH) thread, but no, it had to be a WWW thread...

EDIT: As you can see in getluv's colorful post above this one, I do believe that he thinks that something went wrong...


to me it is a WWW for about 90% of people who post in the Box Office Bash who made a simple movie turn into something utterly undesirable. btw the thread title is called KJ & Wall-E. So KJ has a lot of explaining to do. i want everyone involved. the people who formed these "clubs" and made ridiculous predictions and people who supported all this nonsense.

i have made clear reasons why Wall-E wasn't such a great Pixar choice for an audience. At least Kung-Fu Panda is accessible to audiences.


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Okay, here we have a movie which

-probably will pull off the 2nd biggest June opening of all-time
-will have an opening week above the $100m mark which would make it Pixar's biggest opening week
-has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 96 %
-has an IMDB Score of 9.3 (of course it will go down over time, but it has already garnered 1.724 votes)

and people think the movie deserves a WWW thread?

For God's sake, this is an original movie (just like E.T. and TITANIC), which doesn't break any opening weekend records (just like E.T. and TITANIC) and the sky is the limit...

First of all, it's a Pixar movie, they made a name for themselves and audiences know exactly what they're in for, in that sense it's not so much 'original'. Furthermore, Pixar always garners amazing reviews (Cars was a minor exception) yet none of their movies came close to having the kind of legs you need to get an $65m opener to $600m.

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getluv wrote:
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MadGez wrote:
I think some people are missing the point of getluv's thread.

Offcourse he's not actually saying anything went wrong with Wall-E's performance so far. What his thread is having a poke at is the ridiculous predictions and clubs that were made which in effect make the film's performance a bit a dissapointment or "epic fail". And he's right about that.

Well, he could have posted that in the HAVE WE HYPED THINGS TOO MUCH) thread, but no, it had to be a WWW thread...

EDIT: As you can see in getluv's colorful post above this one, I do believe that he thinks that something went wrong...


to me it is a WWW for about 90% of people who post in the Box Office Bash who made a simple movie turn into something utterly undesirable. btw the thread title is called KJ & Wall-E. So KJ has a lot of explaining to do. i want everyone involved. the people who formed these "clubs" and made ridiculous predictions and people who supported all this nonsense.

i have made clear reasons why Wall-E wasn't such a great Pixar choice for an audience.

Well, how do you know? Have you been to the future and seen the final tally for WALL-E?

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mark66 wrote:
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mark66 wrote:
MadGez wrote:
I think some people are missing the point of getluv's thread.

Offcourse he's not actually saying anything went wrong with Wall-E's performance so far. What his thread is having a poke at is the ridiculous predictions and clubs that were made which in effect make the film's performance a bit a dissapointment or "epic fail". And he's right about that.

Well, he could have posted that in the HAVE WE HYPED THINGS TOO MUCH) thread, but no, it had to be a WWW thread...

EDIT: As you can see in getluv's colorful post above this one, I do believe that he thinks that something went wrong...


to me it is a WWW for about 90% of people who post in the Box Office Bash who made a simple movie turn into something utterly undesirable. btw the thread title is called KJ & Wall-E. So KJ has a lot of explaining to do. i want everyone involved. the people who formed these "clubs" and made ridiculous predictions and people who supported all this nonsense.

i have made clear reasons why Wall-E wasn't such a great Pixar choice for an audience.

Well, how do you know? Have you been to the future and seen the final tally for WALL-E?


i can pretty much say in this day and age, that a $65 will have to pull some extra steroids out of the basket to get to the highs you want it to achieve. especially after it had such a hard time achieve a OW multiplier of 3, oops it hasn't managed that.


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getluv wrote:
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getluv wrote:
mark66 wrote:
MadGez wrote:
I think some people are missing the point of getluv's thread.

Offcourse he's not actually saying anything went wrong with Wall-E's performance so far. What his thread is having a poke at is the ridiculous predictions and clubs that were made which in effect make the film's performance a bit a dissapointment or "epic fail". And he's right about that.

Well, he could have posted that in the HAVE WE HYPED THINGS TOO MUCH) thread, but no, it had to be a WWW thread...

EDIT: As you can see in getluv's colorful post above this one, I do believe that he thinks that something went wrong...


to me it is a WWW for about 90% of people who post in the Box Office Bash who made a simple movie turn into something utterly undesirable. btw the thread title is called KJ & Wall-E. So KJ has a lot of explaining to do. i want everyone involved. the people who formed these "clubs" and made ridiculous predictions and people who supported all this nonsense.

i have made clear reasons why Wall-E wasn't such a great Pixar choice for an audience.

Well, how do you know? Have you been to the future and seen the final tally for WALL-E?


i can pretty much say in this day and age, that a $65 will have to pull some extra steroids out of the basket to get to the highs you want it to achieve. especially after it had such a hard time achieve a OW multiplier of 3, oops it hasn't managed that.

Again you're accepting things as a fact that haven't happened yet. I'm not saying that Darling Nikki's numbers are wrong, but I'm not accepting them as a fact.
And the major difference between me and you is, I'm not a fanatic. See, I don't rule anything out, but you do with a 100 % belief.
Truth is, we don't know how WALL-E will behave in the next couple of weeks. I have a sense that its legs will be outstanding, but I might be wrong - we'll just have to wait and see.
But you are screaming FAILURE after the biggest Pixar opening day ever and unconfirmed 2nd day early estimates...

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i'm not a box office fanatic. ur the one who needed to make an extra thread. but like Nazqul said, i can easily make a Wanted $300m club. i mean, its still a possibility.

i've only made two comments in the Box office bash all year. about Wanted & SaTC. KJ is crying out for help at the moment. unfortunately the results suggest that it won't even beat Nemo, in 2008 $ letalone 2003.


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I do agree Wall-E is overestimated.

Sure its a good film but it faces 2 more weeks of heavy competition which will prevent it from pulling off a FN run.


You have a 100+ million 5-day opener next week followed by a 110 million+ 3-day opener the week after.


It does not mater if Wall-E is the best film ever but it will drop over 35% and more on both weekends.

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I do agree Wall-E is overestimated.

Sure its a good film but it faces 2 more weeks of heavy competition which will prevent it from pulling off a FN run.


You have a 100+ million 5-day opener next week followed by a 110 million+ 3-day opener the week after.


It does not mater if Wall-E is the best film ever but it will drop over 35% and more on both weekends.
DARK KNIGHT is opening a week later...

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Oh really???

With the hype it seems much closer but there is over half a month left.

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i'm not a box office fanatic. ur the one who needed to make an extra thread. but like Nazqul said, i can easily make a Wanted $300m club. i mean, its still a possibility.

i've only made two comments in the Box office bash all year. about Wanted & SaTC. KJ is crying out for help at the moment. unfortunately the results suggest that it won't even beat Nemo, in 2008 $ letalone 2003.

Now this sounds better, you do not think it will match NEMO, but you're not ruling it out. So to rest the case can we agree on that a WWW thread was too early and we'll have a better sense of what's gonna happen to WALL-E after its second or third weekend?

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i believe there is a PG-rated Eddie Murphy comedy and a kids 3D adventure film out the following week. "Mom, can i see the movie with the glasses i can wear"


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getluv wrote:
i'm not a box office fanatic. ur the one who needed to make an extra thread. but like Nazqul said, i can easily make a Wanted $300m club. i mean, its still a possibility.

i've only made two comments in the Box office bash all year. about Wanted & SaTC. KJ is crying out for help at the moment. unfortunately the results suggest that it won't even beat Nemo, in 2008 $ letalone 2003.

Now this sounds better, you do not think it will match NEMO, but you're not ruling it out. So to rest the case can we agree on that a WWW thread was too early and we'll have a better sense of what's gonna happen to WALL-E after its second or third weekend?


the thread says "KJ & Wall-e". technically something is really wrong, and i have ruled it out. only dilusional people have hope now.


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getluv wrote:
i'm not a box office fanatic. ur the one who needed to make an extra thread. but like Nazqul said, i can easily make a Wanted $300m club. i mean, its still a possibility.

i've only made two comments in the Box office bash all year. about Wanted & SaTC. KJ is crying out for help at the moment. unfortunately the results suggest that it won't even beat Nemo, in 2008 $ letalone 2003.

Now this sounds better, you do not think it will match NEMO, but you're not ruling it out. So to rest the case can we agree on that a WWW thread was too early and we'll have a better sense of what's gonna happen to WALL-E after its second or third weekend?


the thread says "KJ & Wall-e". technically something is really wrong, and i have ruled it out. only dilusional people have hope now.
Uups, here's the fanatic again...

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mark66 wrote:
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mark66 wrote:
getluv wrote:
i'm not a box office fanatic. ur the one who needed to make an extra thread. but like Nazqul said, i can easily make a Wanted $300m club. i mean, its still a possibility.

i've only made two comments in the Box office bash all year. about Wanted & SaTC. KJ is crying out for help at the moment. unfortunately the results suggest that it won't even beat Nemo, in 2008 $ letalone 2003.

Now this sounds better, you do not think it will match NEMO, but you're not ruling it out. So to rest the case can we agree on that a WWW thread was too early and we'll have a better sense of what's gonna happen to WALL-E after its second or third weekend?


the thread says "KJ & Wall-e". technically something is really wrong, and i have ruled it out. only dilusional people have hope now.
Uups, here's the fanatic again...


no, thats a normal person speaking again. don't make me go Denise Richards on u.


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getluv wrote:
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getluv wrote:
mark66 wrote:
getluv wrote:
i'm not a box office fanatic. ur the one who needed to make an extra thread. but like Nazqul said, i can easily make a Wanted $300m club. i mean, its still a possibility.

i've only made two comments in the Box office bash all year. about Wanted & SaTC. KJ is crying out for help at the moment. unfortunately the results suggest that it won't even beat Nemo, in 2008 $ letalone 2003.

Now this sounds better, you do not think it will match NEMO, but you're not ruling it out. So to rest the case can we agree on that a WWW thread was too early and we'll have a better sense of what's gonna happen to WALL-E after its second or third weekend?


the thread says "KJ & Wall-e". technically something is really wrong, and i have ruled it out. only dilusional people have hope now.
Uups, here's the fanatic again...


no, thats a normal person speaking again. don't make me go Denise Richards on u.

Well, we're talking circles here, so that's gonna be my last post for now:
You're ruling out certain levels of box office for WALL-E, I'm not.
Translation: You're absolutely sure things gonna happen your way and I'm saying we don't know yet, where WALL-E is headed...
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As much as getluv has a right to highlight KJs overpredictions, I think its equally fair not too shoot down predictions and expectations of other posters like Mark66 because he has a point - it aint over till its over.

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Lol, What a retard, you will see it match Nemo.


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can someone just make the TDK What Went Wrong Thread already.

its 100% guaranteed that some retard is going to make that thread after one day, so lets just get it over with.

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this is a perfectly justified thread.

What went wrong with Wall-E? The same thing that went wrong with Indy.

People's expectations.

Whats going wrong with Wall-E now? The same thing that went wrong with people who supported Indy.

Stories changed and all of a sudden, a gross that was much lower than they have expected is considered excellent because you know .. its Indy, Wall-E and shit.


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