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STEVE ROGERS
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Jim Halpert wrote: finally saw it. I really liked it. The humor worked well and the story was fun. The villain was a bit weak with the final fight scene being a bit anti-climatic. Pepper Potts bothered me a little too but still the movie worked well.
A-.
1. Spider-Man 2. Spider-Man 2 3. Batman Begins 4. X2 5. Iron Man You rated this an "A" and put it down at the bottom of the list much less than having SPIDERMAN over SPIDERMAN 2???
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
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B
On the same level as Batman Begins. LOL, no. WTF as if you'd put that in the same league. There are so many flaws to poke a stick at here. It was offensive to my intelligence and dragged for a good hour or so. Talk about an anti-climax. Jeff Bridges is horrendous.
Anyway, Robert Downey Jr did a fine job as did Paltrow.
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Mon May 12, 2008 11:32 am |
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Jim Halpert
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The Incredible BKB wrote: Jim Halpert wrote: finally saw it. I really liked it. The humor worked well and the story was fun. The villain was a bit weak with the final fight scene being a bit anti-climatic. Pepper Potts bothered me a little too but still the movie worked well.
A-.
1. Spider-Man 2. Spider-Man 2 3. Batman Begins 4. X2 5. Iron Man You rated this an "A" and put it down at the bottom of the list much less than having SPIDERMAN over SPIDERMAN 2???They all have A-'s. The first 4 are in my top 100. Iron Man barely misses out.
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
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It's a very solid movie, but I wasn't blown away by any of it. If you were to ask me my favorite scene, I couldn't tell you because I don't have one. I thought the first half dragged a little as well. It's not bad, just quite solid.
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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getluv wrote: B
On the same level as Batman Begins. LOL, no. WTF as if you'd put that in the same league. There are so many flaws to poke a stick at here. It was offensive to my intelligence and dragged for a good hour or so. Talk about an anti-climax. Jeff Bridges is horrendous.
Anyway, Robert Downey Jr did a fine job as did Paltrow. Offensive to your intelligence?? WTF??? Are you that harsh of a movie critic wannabe to the point where you can't suspend disbelief?? I suppose a guy running arund in a rubber Batsuit is any less offensive to one's intelligence, huh??? 
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
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The Incredible BKB wrote: getluv wrote: B
On the same level as Batman Begins. LOL, no. WTF as if you'd put that in the same league. There are so many flaws to poke a stick at here. It was offensive to my intelligence and dragged for a good hour or so. Talk about an anti-climax. Jeff Bridges is horrendous.
Anyway, Robert Downey Jr did a fine job as did Paltrow. Offensive to your intelligence?? WTF??? Are you that harsh of a movie critic wannabe to the point where you can't suspend disbelief?? I suppose a guy running arund in a rubber Batsuit is any less offensive to one's intelligence, huh???  bitch please. it was offensive to my intelligence because of how easy it was for the vilian to to get inside his house and find him and get what he was talking about. xoxo
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JURiNG
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:45 pm Posts: 3016 Location: Cairo, Egypt
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This is getting annoyed..
Stop bitching someone who didn't find this movie 'PERFECT'.. he gave it 'B' for God's sake!
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Anita Hussein Briem
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JURiNG wrote: This is getting annoyed..
Stop bitching someone who didn't find this movie 'PERFECT'.. he gave it 'B' for God's sake! Don't tell BKB not to bitch. _med.jpg)
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jmovies
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One of the best superhero movies, only behind the first two Spider-Man's in my opinion.
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Tuukka
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Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:35 am Posts: 1830 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Great lead character with a great lead performance from Downey. Often very witty and funny dialogue. Very well staged action sequences with photo-realistic SFX. I found them to be far superior when compared to Transformers, for example. The scale might have been smaller, but they were much better written and directed. I found them to be superior to pretty much any superhero movie in recent years.
Also the film has a refreshing romance angle that plays against expectations, with an interesting character in Potts and a highly charming performance from Paltrow.
The story is somewhat thin, but it didn't really matter as I found all the characters to be very engaging, and I also enjoyed the whole building of the suit scenario. And the suits were awesome, all of them.
My main flaws within the film are that the villain suddenly starts spewing out cliche bad guy one-liners once he reveals his plan, the fact that Stark would be squashed inside his suit with all the damage he takes (Feels unrealistic in the otherwise somewhat realistic context), and the fact that there isn't any strong overall sense of doom and danger to the story - The stakes are rather low-key and personal, except for some vague impressions we are given of possible future warfare.
But none of those flaws does big damage to the film. I enjoyed this immensely and two hours were over before I even noticed. Not necessarily a film I will come back to again and again, but great popcorn fun nevertheless.
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Saw it today. What a great movie! A lot of fun. Unlike Spiderman, I can see this holding up upon repeat viewings for me. A well-deserving film to be making so much money.
Grade: A
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billybobwashere
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I liked it.
My family liked it.
My friends liked it.
Other people I know liked it.
But nobody loved it.
Where is all this love coming from? Because honestly, I haven't seen any that doesn't exist online or with critics. It's a good movie, no doubt, but what exactly makes it "great"? The fact that the lead performer actually gives a damn good performance? Yeah, Downey's great, but Bridges' very weak villainous performance does its best to cancel that out. The FX are good, but aren't anything "special." They aren't much better than those in a "Fantastic Four" movie, for example, because they're used pretty rarely. The romantic elements are good, but it's not like it's any more believable than the Peter/MJ, Bruce Wayne/[whatever her name is], Clark/Lois, etc...
I just don't see where people are getting the idea that it's the best superhero movie ever made.
Because honestly, Downey aside, nothing about this movie is incredible.
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Webslinger
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Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:24 pm Posts: 4110 Location: Stuck In A Moment I Can't Get Out Of
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I'd say it's Downey and the story itself. While it's true that the story is nothing hugely revelatory on the surface, it's pretty fresh for a superhero flick. You don't see too many superheroes who got their starts as womanizing arms dealers held in captivity in the Middle East (at least not in the movies). It felt a lot fresher than many superhero origin films, and apart from franchise reboot Batman Begins (which was an origin story), this is the best such story I've seen Hollywood turn out so far. (Consider that I find both the original Superman and Spider-Man to be mildly overrated.)
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Jeff
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I don't feel like reading everything in here, but answer me this: am I the only one who thought this was one of the worst superhero movies?
I mean, it isn't Elektra bad. But it is at least Daredevil bad if not even a little worse. I'm trying to think of another movie that was this hyped and this much utter trite.
The good: Downey Jr. and Paltrow are both fantastic. The effects are also very good. And umm...yeah, that's about it.
The bad: The plot is paper thin (I realize they probably didn't have a lot to work with). The writting is horrible. The political storyline is atrociously obvious and ridiculous (yes, yes, I'm aware this is probably very realistic, that doesn't mean it fits in the movie). There weren't enough action scenes. The ending was unsatisfying.
I could go on, but it is pushing midnight and I'm exhausted.
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JURiNG
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Jeff wrote: I don't feel like reading everything in here, but answer me this: am I the only one who thought this was one of the worst superhero movies? Maybe.. Because I, for one, have seen worse.. lots of them too.. but I didn't loved it though.. it was 'above than average' movie.. but damn, it's Downey who made it much better..
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Nazgul9
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billybobwashere wrote: I liked it.
My family liked it.
My friends liked it.
Other people I know liked it.
But nobody loved it.
Where is all this love coming from? Because honestly, I haven't seen any that doesn't exist online or with critics. It's a good movie, no doubt, but what exactly makes it "great"? The fact that the lead performer actually gives a damn good performance? Yeah, Downey's great, but Bridges' very weak villainous performance does its best to cancel that out. The FX are good, but aren't anything "special." They aren't much better than those in a "Fantastic Four" movie, for example, because they're used pretty rarely. The romantic elements are good, but it's not like it's any more believable than the Peter/MJ, Bruce Wayne/[whatever her name is], Clark/Lois, etc...
I just don't see where people are getting the idea that it's the best superhero movie ever made.
Because honestly, Downey aside, nothing about this movie is incredible. Roughly my sentiments. It definitely wasn't a waste of cash but all the hype about how great it is is a mystery to me. Oh well, wouldn't be the first one...
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Mannyisthebest
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by spiderman 3, those two were just intolerable.
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Jeff
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Mannyisthebest wrote: by spiderman 3, those two were just intolerable. They were by SM2!
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Mannyisthebest
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After watching Spiderman 3 and the disasters that followed (Shrek 3, AWE), I thought the concpet of a quality of blockbuster was lost.
However then TF came along and I don't know if it was the fact that other blockbusters sucked so much or that It was actually a great film, but i really liked it.
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AWE was awesome, it just had bad timing.
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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At World's End would have been better received across the board if it had been shorter. I'm sorry, but 2:48 was way too long. Everyone I've talked to about this movie has loved it. Even with so many people at my school seeing Prince Caspian over the weekend, this is still the most talked-about thing there. It got more of a response when I mentioned it and Prince Caspian during the opening part of my presentation on the Oscars for my history class today. (Don't ask how I got to talking about Iron Man and Prince Caspian in an Oscar history presentation.  )
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billybobwashere
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i'm lowering my grade to a "B" (from a "B+"). To add to the fact that it's getting such out-of-nowhere raves, I'm finding it rather unmemorable as time passes, as well.
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STEVE ROGERS
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billybobwashere wrote: i'm lowering my grade to a "B" (from a "B+"). To add to the fact that it's getting such out-of-nowhere raves, I'm finding it rather unmemorable as time passes, as well. Why?? Cause it's overshadowing TDK??? Face it: The movie kicked ass, it was FUN and not so goddamn dark and depressing like today's youth crave so much..
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The Incredible BKB wrote: billybobwashere wrote: i'm lowering my grade to a "B" (from a "B+"). To add to the fact that it's getting such out-of-nowhere raves, I'm finding it rather unmemorable as time passes, as well. Why?? Cause it's overshadowing TDK??? Face it: The movie kicked ass, it was FUN and not so goddamn dark and depressing like today's youth crave so much..It was so good, it musn't be good - - at the very least, it's not a cool movie to be seen enjoying... 
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Dr. Lecter
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Oh yes, this rocked.
Iron Man is definitely the best comic book adaptation I have seen since Batman Begins. While it doesn't quite enter my Top 5 of the best comic book adaptations, it firmly sits in the Top 10 and is a great movie by itself. Hell, I would have never thought some months ago that I'd wind up liking this more than Indiana Jones 4, but I did! What mostly makes this movie is obviously Robert Downey Jr. and his tremendous spot-on performance as Tony Stark. I think I haven't seen a performance as fresh as his in a big blockbuster in a long time, maybe not even since Depp in the first Pirates film (though Downey Jr. wasn't quite that good). He fits the part perfectly and brings humor and humainty to the role. Seriously, the way the movie opens and sets up the character is simply perfect and the best character introduction I have seen in a long long time. I mean by the time Stark and Rhodes started getting drunk on the plane with the dancing stewardesses I simply couldn't help, but admire the character's life, heh. Great job there!
Gwyneth Paltrow is the second most memorable cast member here. Favreau made the right choice by not giving her an overwhelming number of scenes, so she clearly figures as a supporting character. Whenever she is on, though, she dazzles in the best turn I've seen by her in a long time. Her one-liners are snappy and work very well. Obviously she ends up in the damsel in distress role by the end of the film, but for most of the time she's great in the part. I also loved the development of the relationship between her and Robert Downey Jr. as well as the fact that they haven't actually kissed once in the film and that their relationship just starts to take some form by the end of the film. That really contributed a lot to their dynamics. I even loved the small scene of them dancing and later on the balcony during that party.
Terrence Howard's role is underwritten here, but as always, he does the best he can wth the material given to him. Jeff Bridges puts on a solid performance too, but as the main villain he is just fairly lame and not quite as "deliciously evil" as one could hope for. I understand that, though, since the director decided to focus moreso on the origins story.
Here comes in my main gripe with the film: it takes too long to get started and once it's done it's also almost over. It takes more than half of the film until the final Iron Man costume is finished and after that it just ends fairly soon. It didn't bother me as much, however because the way there was a lot of fun (like Stark's mishaps with the costumes). I liked the good amount of humor inserted into the film. There's more humor and character work here than actio, though. While we are treated a bombastic showdown and a good action scene when the new Iron Man suit is used for the first time, other than that, there's little action during the film's 125 minutes running time. That was fine by me, though. The final showdown almost makes up for that wth its great action and wonderful visuals. Speaking of which, the movie looked very good and sounded just as well....I expect some Oscar noms next year!
The movie isn't perfect, the pace is not very good and as I said, the villain was really second-rate here, but I can live with al that, knowing that the second film will most likely improve on these aspects as the first film is just a long origins story. As long as Favreau, Paltrow and Downey Jr. are on board, I am confident about the second film.
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