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Naturalflux7 wrote:
Great way to retort, acting like im trying to purge everyones opinions - not like i already mentioned you do that all the time in my post.

And Johnny, shouldnt the same logic apply to hating celebrites?
I mean, not many people met Ben Affleck - hes probobly a nice guy, yet everyone was all for hating him when they have never even spoken to the guy... So why?


You attacked me first buddy :wink:

Hating celebrities (hating anyone who is on top of you) is just human nature. It'll always be there and it's always needed so people can strive for greater things.


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I mean, not many people met Ben Affleck - hes probobly a nice guy, yet everyone was all for hating him when they have never even spoken to the guy... So why?


Actually, I had the chance to speak with Affleck over the phone during the Tsunami telethon.

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I dont hate celebrities. I don't know them so why should i? Sure Jennifer Lopez's media monopoly may annoy me, and i may not like the percieved public image she likes to put across. But at the core i still dont know the chick so ive got no reason to sit and say shes a total bitttch. Id more likely say "Im not a Jennifer fan and dont really rate her as an actress or singer or whatever" not "Jennifer Lopez is a total shebitch i fuckin hate her and hope she just fucks off away" see the difference there :P?

People are entitled to their opinion , but the way some people put it out is quite mean and thats the real problem.

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What the hell is going on here!?!?!?

Algren asked me before making this thread, not because he wanted to look better in the eyes of people but he genuinely felt the way he did.

Algren was honest about his feelings in his first thread, though completely tactless. While he did nothing wrong cept lack tact, the responses he received were even more deplorable than what Algren was saying in the first place. And now that he creates this thread, apologied to one of the members personally on this board via PM and took the opportunity to admit his own problem (something i dont see coming from anyone here), people are questioning the man's integrity? On top of that, whats even sadder are the positive comments the guy is getting here. Nice to see you talk sense Algren instead of your stupid views?? Is that how you answer someone??

And this whole Garner thing?? I don't know how it started but just because people like someone and don't like another one doesn't mean we all start this good ol' virtue crap. This isn't about someone famous or rich or celebrity and this isn't about someone being out of their league so they shouldn't say anything? I bet theres not one person here who's called someone fat here or made a joke about someone's look.

What I find even more deplorable is the notion here that you're way out of your league for someone so you can't make such comments? Is the implication that if you're good looking enough, you should be allowed to say whatever you want about someone lesser in looks!?!? Cause thats even worse than whats going on here.

Garner looks like a woman or looks like a man. it doesn't matter. Some people think one thing, some people think another? I personally find garner attractive at times and yes, sometimes, her face shows qualities more suited to a man. And I'm no where as good looking as the worst person in film business but my opinion is my opinion and the fact that i can't ever look or bag a laddy such as that cannot stop me from thinking the way i do. This whole defense of a person's looks is just ridiculus. Rusty has a right to his opinion and so do a lot of other peopel here who do not find garner as attractive as a few obsessed with her here.

Or I might as well expect to wake up tomorrow, see everyone just comment on things positively (cause behold, i'll never get a chance to make a movie at all so how dare i comment on the quality of gigli or elektra or battlefield earth or love actually (Yea i admit it, i thought it sucked!!).

No more Ashlee Simpson judging here guys, and don't even consider saying a word about Bush here. Try running a country first before uttering crap out of your mouth

**end of ranting**


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good rant baba! But you needed more talk about rush. Maybe incorporate some lyrics from closer to the heart.


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What the hell is going on here!?!?!?

Algren asked me before making this thread, not because he wanted to look better in the eyes of people but he genuinely felt the way he did.

Algren was honest about his feelings in his first thread, though completely tactless. While he did nothing wrong cept lack tact, the responses he received were even more deplorable than what Algren was saying in the first place. And now that he creates this thread, apologied to one of the members personally on this board via PM and took the opportunity to admit his own problem (something i dont see coming from anyone here), people are questioning the man's integrity? On top of that, whats even sadder are the positive comments the guy is getting here. Nice to see you talk sense Algren instead of your stupid views?? Is that how you answer someone??

And this whole Garner thing?? I don't know how it started but just because people like someone and don't like another one doesn't mean we all start this good ol' virtue crap. This isn't about someone famous or rich or celebrity and this isn't about someone being out of their league so they shouldn't say anything? I bet theres not one person here who's called someone fat here or made a joke about someone's look.

What I find even more deplorable is the notion here that you're way out of your league for someone so you can't make such comments? Is the implication that if you're good looking enough, you should be allowed to say whatever you want about someone lesser in looks!?!? Cause thats even worse than whats going on here.

Garner looks like a woman or looks like a man. it doesn't matter. Some people think one thing, some people think another? I personally find garner attractive at times and yes, sometimes, her face shows qualities more suited to a man. And I'm no where as good looking as the worst person in film business but my opinion is my opinion and the fact that i can't ever look or bag a laddy such as that cannot stop me from thinking the way i do. This whole defense of a person's looks is just ridiculus. Rusty has a right to his opinion and so do a lot of other peopel here who do not find garner as attractive as a few obsessed with her here.

Or I might as well expect to wake up tomorrow, see everyone just comment on things positively (cause behold, i'll never get a chance to make a movie at all so how dare i comment on the quality of gigli or elektra or battlefield earth or love actually (Yea i admit it, i thought it sucked!!).

No more Ashlee Simpson judging here guys, and don't even consider saying a word about Bush here. Try running a country first before uttering crap out of your mouth

**end of ranting**


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bABA wrote:
What the hell is going on here!?!?!?

Algren asked me before making this thread, not because he wanted to look better in the eyes of people but he genuinely felt the way he did.

Algren was honest about his feelings in his first thread, though completely tactless. While he did nothing wrong cept lack tact, the responses he received were even more deplorable than what Algren was saying in the first place. And now that he creates this thread, apologied to one of the members personally on this board via PM and took the opportunity to admit his own problem (something i dont see coming from anyone here), people are questioning the man's integrity? On top of that, whats even sadder are the positive comments the guy is getting here. Nice to see you talk sense Algren instead of your stupid views?? Is that how you answer someone??

And this whole Garner thing?? I don't know how it started but just because people like someone and don't like another one doesn't mean we all start this good ol' virtue crap. This isn't about someone famous or rich or celebrity and this isn't about someone being out of their league so they shouldn't say anything? I bet theres not one person here who's called someone fat here or made a joke about someone's look.

What I find even more deplorable is the notion here that you're way out of your league for someone so you can't make such comments? Is the implication that if you're good looking enough, you should be allowed to say whatever you want about someone lesser in looks!?!? Cause thats even worse than whats going on here.

Garner looks like a woman or looks like a man. it doesn't matter. Some people think one thing, some people think another? I personally find garner attractive at times and yes, sometimes, her face shows qualities more suited to a man. And I'm no where as good looking as the worst person in film business but my opinion is my opinion and the fact that i can't ever look or bag a laddy such as that cannot stop me from thinking the way i do. This whole defense of a person's looks is just ridiculus. Rusty has a right to his opinion and so do a lot of other peopel here who do not find garner as attractive as a few obsessed with her here.

Or I might as well expect to wake up tomorrow, see everyone just comment on things positively (cause behold, i'll never get a chance to make a movie at all so how dare i comment on the quality of gigli or elektra or battlefield earth or love actually (Yea i admit it, i thought it sucked!!).

No more Ashlee Simpson judging here guys, and don't even consider saying a word about Bush here. Try running a country first before uttering crap out of your mouth

**end of ranting**


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bABA wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
bABA wrote:
What the hell is going on here!?!?!?

Algren asked me before making this thread, not because he wanted to look better in the eyes of people but he genuinely felt the way he did.

Algren was honest about his feelings in his first thread, though completely tactless. While he did nothing wrong cept lack tact, the responses he received were even more deplorable than what Algren was saying in the first place. And now that he creates this thread, apologied to one of the members personally on this board via PM and took the opportunity to admit his own problem (something i dont see coming from anyone here), people are questioning the man's integrity? On top of that, whats even sadder are the positive comments the guy is getting here. Nice to see you talk sense Algren instead of your stupid views?? Is that how you answer someone??

And this whole Garner thing?? I don't know how it started but just because people like someone and don't like another one doesn't mean we all start this good ol' virtue crap. This isn't about someone famous or rich or celebrity and this isn't about someone being out of their league so they shouldn't say anything? I bet theres not one person here who's called someone fat here or made a joke about someone's look.

What I find even more deplorable is the notion here that you're way out of your league for someone so you can't make such comments? Is the implication that if you're good looking enough, you should be allowed to say whatever you want about someone lesser in looks!?!? Cause thats even worse than whats going on here.

Garner looks like a woman or looks like a man. it doesn't matter. Some people think one thing, some people think another? I personally find garner attractive at times and yes, sometimes, her face shows qualities more suited to a man. And I'm no where as good looking as the worst person in film business but my opinion is my opinion and the fact that i can't ever look or bag a laddy such as that cannot stop me from thinking the way i do. This whole defense of a person's looks is just ridiculus. Rusty has a right to his opinion and so do a lot of other peopel here who do not find garner as attractive as a few obsessed with her here.

Or I might as well expect to wake up tomorrow, see everyone just comment on things positively (cause behold, i'll never get a chance to make a movie at all so how dare i comment on the quality of gigli or elektra or battlefield earth or love actually (Yea i admit it, i thought it sucked!!).

No more Ashlee Simpson judging here guys, and don't even consider saying a word about Bush here. Try running a country first before uttering crap out of your mouth

**end of ranting**


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Where did you buy your humor!?!? From the toilet store!?!?

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Baba, Algrens views can be quite agreeable at times - but this is the first thread in which hes really put over his views in a way that is really well thought out and shows that thought actually goes into his posts rather than saying things to rouse up other people - its made me think about him far differently, and i think giving people into trouble for praising the guy in this effort is unfair.

And i dont really know what your talking about with the whole Garner thing- you seem to have read the wrong signals. I'd personally like to see people present their opinions in a way that may be less offensive to fans or whatever, because at the core of it, making cheap shot comments at x or x is what starts arguments. It has NOTHING to do with the way someone looks, its the principle that people are coming online and making fun of others, reguardless of who that may be, famous or not. I dont like that notion at all.

I dont really give a shit if people dont like Jennifer Garner, i love her and if someone on the other side of the globe thinks shes not attractive then fine - but people just put across their opinions in ways designed to make fun of famous people and then being praised for it by other people who share their views?
Whatever. I guess being nice is a concept lost on some.

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MJ, apply what you said about algren to yourself for a minute. His opinions for what theyre worth were his but he lacked tact about it.

Your intentions on what you think about this whole issue are cool but browse over all the electra threads and garner threads here and see the implicit bashing you've put upon others. This post was not directly targeted towards you but i'd be lying if i said you weren't a big part of it. Designed to make fun of people so what? I've heard you make comments about people here that are downright rude. Have you ever met them? Sure you've shared a few posts here with them and will a bit later too. To me, that equates to the same thing? No one here harbors any bad thoughts about garner and frankly, saying she looks like a guy is no more than an observation .. the fun starts when people come in to defend the person to this extreme point and then create situations for people to retort back ... the whole thing escalates till the fun making begins ...


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I will say this again...What Algren said was horribly rude and crude. Yes I believe his is just trying to save face with this "I didnt mean it I promise" thread, but I will be mature about this and give him the benifet of the doubt.


On the topic of Garner...she really isn;t anything special in my opinion. The manly features are prominent, but thats really not why...she just dosent strike me as a great actress or a really good looking women.,

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I will say this again...What Algren said was horribly rude and crude. Yes I believe his is just trying to save face with this "I didnt mean it I promise" thread, but I will be mature about this and give him the benifet of the doubt.


On the topic of Garner...she really isn;t anything special in my opinion. The manly features are prominent, but thats really not why...she just dosent strike me as a great actress or a really good looking women.,


hey merox .. i would never pass a statement like this because i just .. dont like passing such statements and treating someone like an object or a property but .. here goes

i think she looks like a man too sometimes .... would i do her?? sure ....

you'll never hear me say that again.


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I will say this again...What Algren said was horribly rude and crude. Yes I believe his is just trying to save face with this "I didnt mean it I promise" thread, but I will be mature about this and give him the benifet of the doubt.


On the topic of Garner...she really isn;t anything special in my opinion. The manly features are prominent, but thats really not why...she just dosent strike me as a great actress or a really good looking women.,


hey merox .. i would never pass a statement like this because i just .. dont like passing such statements and treating someone like an object or a property but .. here goes

i think she looks like a man too sometimes .... would i do her?? sure ....

you'll never hear me say that again.


Oh I would as well...but I would be worried that I would find a penis...
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Some comments about people i find immature, others offensive. Like the one just made above...

Never mind, whatever, go on insulting people youll never meet :)


But wait, if i say "Your a dick" thats me being insulting and rude
But if i say "I think your a dick" thats my opinon therefore valid and of substance?

Im saying nothing more.

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Some comments about people i find immature, others offensive. Like the one just made above...

Never mind, whatever, go on insulting people youll never meet :)


But wait, if i say "Your a dick" thats me being insulting and rude
But if i say "I think your a dick" thats my opinon therefore valid and of substance?

Im saying nothing more.




=D> Very witty...I give you props on your ability to twist things around.

NOT EVERYONE LOVES GARNER!!!! People talk shit about hilary duff, mariah carey....everyone on this board and people learn to accept it. Everytime someone says something about mariah carey I dont jump down their throat. People call out torrino for being a burn out, but hey...he takes it in jest(although he is prolly high when he reads it) we call rusty a commie, while true, he dosent get offended


Cmon man...lighten up, its all good OPINOINS ABOUT SUPERSTARS are different. I never onced said anything about you.


Relax :wink:

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Naturalflux7 wrote:
Some comments about people i find immature, others offensive. Like the one just made above...

Never mind, whatever, go on insulting people youll never meet :)


But wait, if i say "Your a dick" thats me being insulting and rude
But if i say "I think your a dick" thats my opinon therefore valid and of substance?

Im saying nothing more.


Well by your standards, both seem pretty wrong considering you've never met the guy ...


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bABA wrote:
Naturalflux7 wrote:
Some comments about people i find immature, others offensive. Like the one just made above...

Never mind, whatever, go on insulting people youll never meet :)


But wait, if i say "Your a dick" thats me being insulting and rude
But if i say "I think your a dick" thats my opinon therefore valid and of substance?

Im saying nothing more.


Well by your standards, both seem pretty wrong considering you've never met the guy ...



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Touche! Whos the guy though? Guybrush Threepwood?
Anyone for a spot of fencing?
Then we can have afternoon tea with Lady Marmalade of York.
Oh im getting giddy at the thooooaht

Maybe this rambling is a sign that i should go to bed because ive got a mission that requires me to be up befor 11am tomorrow, and invovles a bottle, urine, and a doctor.

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...and don't even consider saying a word about Bush here. Try running a country first before uttering crap out of your mouth

**end of ranting**


Wait...if you're being serious I'm outta here for good? I'd have to bite my tongue so often it would begin to bleed. Say it isn't so bABA? *sobs*


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Touche!
Anyone for a spot of fencing?
Then we can have afternoon tea with Lady Marmalade of York.
Oh im getting giddy at the thooooaht

Maybe this rambling is a sign that i should go to bed because ive got a mission that requires me to be up befor 11am tomorrow, and invovles a bottle, urine, and a doctor.



Drug test?

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Yes, :( they dont want me to enter the Olympics for Idiots, its a conspiracy A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU

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...and don't even consider saying a word about Bush here. Try running a country first before uttering crap out of your mouth

**end of ranting**


Wait...if you're being serious I'm outta here for good? I'd have to bite my tongue so often it would begin to bleed. Say it isn't so bABA? *sobs*


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
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I mean, not many people met Ben Affleck - hes probobly a nice guy, yet everyone was all for hating him when they have never even spoken to the guy... So why?


Actually, I had the chance to speak with Affleck over the phone during the Tsunami telethon.

What a fucking asshole!


So how long did it take you to get through to this guy??? I mean, what do you say to someone like this once you get through??? Hell, I'd be at a loss for words probably because I couldn't believe I would be talking with a movie star.. :-k

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Meh...Actions speak louder than words. Personally I think your just trying to cover your ass, from the horrid comments you made in the past and build your integrity back up.
I hope your serious....I guess we will see


I do not care enough about the internet and my image on the internet to dedicate a thread to how i really feel towards that issue, so really, i am not trying to cover my ass, but i felt bad about what said, annoyed at myself, because you weren't judging the real me.

LMR, if you hate me forever, it wouldnt bother me, not because im bitter, but because now ive said what i really meant to say first time round, it would be your problem if you still held a grudge, so really...i am serious about my first post.

I dont understand this "actions speak louder than words", how does that work? surely the only thing we can do on here is type what we think :???:

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^^^Well as I said before...I think you noticed the uproar and the sheer disgust people had with you and what you said, which is why I think your trying to save face...regardless if you admit it or not. But I could be wrong...thats just what I think.

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