It would have to be a stretch for it to be worth it, wouldn't it? I'm giving everybody a golden opportunity to get the best of Mavvy. For all to see. I'm sticking my neck out on the line and going balls out, I hide from nobody, and it's a prediction, like the good old days, that very few will believe, but I'll make the case and establish the credible argument to change some minds.

This detail is all it should take to convert even the biggest skeptic. The success of Transformers was enormous, and it was fueled by kids. Kids dig this kinda shit. I know I did. Iron-Man has kinda a Transformers vibe going on. That opened at over 70 million on a weaker weekend to open on that the first week of May is. Transformers didn't have any kind of fanbase to speak of.


This is also Marvel, and they are, indeed, a brand name in movies now. Even have their own studio now. That gives it status and doesn't diminish it as a knockoff of Transformers or anything else. (it's nothing at all like Transformers, by the way, I'm just speaking in terms of perception of the masses.)

Buzz appears to be positive, initially.

Even inflation helps a little.

No brainer here, folks, but, as usual, I guess we'll just have to count the days until the stragglers grow a set and join the winning side. No guts, no glory!

Transformers didn't have any kind of fanbase to speak of.

I guess having multiple Transformers series over the past 25 years and one of the biggest selling toy items didnt constitute as a large fanbase. You may as well say that Batman, Spiderman and GI Joe have no fanbase either before the movies

I really hope that you are joking... I remember when one of the Transformer cartoons was out. It was out with He-Man (which was the more popular of the two), and It was never all the rage. It looked cool as a movie, it didn't have a substantial fan following. The very notion is laughable.

I guess all those hits trying to hack into Bay's server to get a glimpse of what the Transformers look like isnt what you call the franchises fanbase but Bay fans right?And how long has He-mans popularity lasted? Transformers has reached generations of children even when the movie didnt come out. Heck it even had a cartoon based out of Japan. To say that He-man was more popular than Transformers is laughable because you also needed time for it grow and expand instead of being one note sort of like Ninja Turtles

Who had a movie 22 years ago, He-Man or Transformers?

What was easier to make at the time, He-man which uses live actors and costumes or Transformers that really required by go-motion technology like Clash of the Titans and not state of the art CGI? Plus the answer was Transformers anyway if you had forgetten the cartoon version released in 86

It doesn't have a fanbase, though. Nothing substantial. Keep kidding yourself about that if you want. I had a long day and I'll be soundly sleeping while you contemplate the silliness of those notions.

In other words, you gave up because you didnt answer your own question correctly about your implication of which movie came first. Nothing like having no basis to support your own theory. Ill end this argument right now because I could tell you wont admit your wrong and will do anything to keep the argument going sort of like that Superman Returns making 300 million that you denied making

Hey you were asking which movie came first, Transformers or He Man and I gave you the answer. You dont like the answer, dont try to change the subject


You mean you still tried to make a convincing argument about it making 300 million many times even stating that it would be your choice for biggest movie over POTC3. You just didnt come back and take your lumps proudly like Excel and Magnus who were good sports about it. Plan B excuse

Oh you mean like the only times we argued back and forth about Fantastic Four. I dont see you coming back and taking your lump of shares of your claim that Fantastic Four 2 doing better than FF in total take as soon as you took the short cut when you saw its opening day numbers. I unlike you dont jump in most of the time when numbers are posted and make that claim that I knew all along. Ill stop short of this for real

Hmm....buzz for this is a bit higher than I thought. I've been hearing a lot of people around campus saying they are excited for this.

But I think it still won't top 85m. But it just may break 80m. Maybe.

I say no way. What was the highest non-sequel opening?