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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-1 Day (Best Picture)
Best Picture:
Diving Bell
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood


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Those of you predicting No Country for Old Men but not Into the Wild are going to be very wrong, in my opinion. You are all predicting only a 1/5 match up with SAG Ensemble, which has never happened in the history of the SAG Ensemble award. A 2/5 match up has always been the bare minimum, and with the actors being the largest voting block (and having given Into the Wild incredible support with the Ensemble award and 3 individual acting noms), plus support across other important guilds, I don't see any plausible reason for it to change this year (and Into the Wild miss out).

The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

If any film misses out, I think it will be Michael Clayton, which will be replaced by Atonement. Otherwise, the DGA will go 5/5 and prove to be a great indicator of the Oscar Best Picture once again.

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
LOL @ Into the Wild only having two votes. Fools.

Best Picture
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood


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The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
Best Picture
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

Sticking with my feeling that MC won't find enough No. 1 and No. 2 votes.

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
No Country for Old Men
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
Michael Clayton
Atonement

I've been wrestling all week with how either Into the Wild or Atonement will miss a nomination, so I decided to keep them both and snub the movie that is clearly unOscar. It'll also spare the academy of having two < 10 mil films, give them another chance to diss PTA, and give another chance to make this the weirdest year we've ever seen.

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Juno
Michael Clayton
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

I think that's a good five right there. Haven't seen Diving Bell, but I give the others an A+, A, A-, and B, and I'm sure Diving Bell is great. Atonement really should be in here when you look at what kind of film it is and how well it was handled, but it just hasn't gotten enough support. If the Globes were before the ballots were due, then no question it would get in. But the Academy really likes doing stuff like this. Last year, it was Letters from Iwo Jima over Dreamgirls. In 2005, it was Capote over Walk the Line, etc...

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
PIC

Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood


I don't know anymore. :funny: :tears:

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I don't know either!! I've never been so torn!

Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Juno
No country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

This is a bran new line-up I haven't tried yet. It kills me to ditch my original 5+ week predix (No Country, Blood, Wild, Atonement, Juno) but I'm trying to see which films would have the most passion behind them. I think Juno will knock out Michael Clayton and Atonement will JUST edge out Into the Wild :( Sad, I know.

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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
Into the Wild
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

In all honesty, though, Diving Bell and the Butterfly could easily replace any of those but NCFOM and Atonement could realistically sneak in. Apart from No Country for Old Men, nothing is certain.

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loyalfromlondon wrote:
sigh :funny:

No Country For Old Men 16
The Diving Bell and The Butterfly 15
There Will Be Blood 14
Michael Clayton 11
Into The Wild 9
Atonement 7
Juno 7
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber Of Fleet Street 1


Aw. Sweeney Todd looks so lonely. Are you really still predicting it, Loyal?


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I really have no idea. I had Clayton on all my predictions before, but I think I'm gonna go with Into the Wild. Dunno why. Not even a gut feeling. Just for kicks. And Juno's still in, I say.

The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
Juno
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood


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Post Re: Building A Consensus: T-18 Hours (Best Picture)
I'm changing my Michael Clayton nom to Into the Wild, so add one for ItW and take one from MC.


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Raffiki wrote:
I don't know either!! I've never been so torn!

Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Juno
No country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

This is a bran new line-up I haven't tried yet. It kills me to ditch my original 5+ week predix (No Country, Blood, Wild, Atonement, Juno) but I'm trying to see which films would have the most passion behind them. I think Juno will knock out Michael Clayton and Atonement will JUST edge out Into the Wild :( Sad, I know.


Fuck it. I've gone back and forth about 20 times but I'm going to stick with my original line-up (I just posted in Full Predictions Thread):

Atonement
Into the Wild
Juno
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

the only one of those I don't really care about is Juno at this point. If Diving Bell or MC take it's spot, I'm fine with it. Just don't touch Into the Wild!

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Post Re: Our Consensus In The Top 10 Categories
Loyal, you shall acept my vote for Best Picture! :disgust:

Juno
There Will Be Blood
No Country for Old Men
Into the Wild
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

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But it is really close between #5 and #6. As expected actually. But hell, who'd have thought that The Diving Bell would get more votes than TWBB?!

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Atonement is actually my 3rd most confident choice

That tells you all you have to know about the wide openness of this year

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Sasha Stone has just emphasized on her latest write up on Oscarwatch the exact same point I made a few posts back in this thread when predicting Best Picture: the perfect history of SAG Ensemble matching at least 2/5 to the Oscar Best Picture (and usually 3/5 or better). As I stated earlier, I cannot see Into the Wild missing and think those predicting otherwise will be wrong come tomorrow morning. With the SAG Ensemble nod, 3 individual acting noms, and support in other important guilds, Into the Wild has all it takes. There's no plausible reason to believe that this year will be the first exception where SAG Ensemble doesn't match up at least 2/5.

I might be eating my words tomorrow morning. I'll eat my crow pie if I'm wrong, I have no problem with that. But I don't think I'll be wrong. Heh.

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Well you could point out the same for Atonement, I forgot the exact date but I think the last time a GG Drama winner missed BP was like 1965? That's why I couldn't leave out it or Wild, the latter for the reason you mentioned among others (acting branch support among them). And Atonement killed the BAFTAs.

I'm going out on a limb picking against Blood, right now I just think Clayton has showed up in too many places, with its 3 acting noms and having PGA/DGA/WGA I would be shocked if it didn't get in and Blood is clearly the type of film that is usually Oscar repellent.

I think Diving Bell has a legitimate shot to miss too, it's no lock. At the end of the day it's still a foreign film with no box-office, and Atonement, Clayton, Wild, and Blood all have lots going for them to say the least. And then there's Juno... I'm not feeling it and have it lagging way behind in 7th, but I guess it's still around.

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Yeah, but in your case, it is the Golden Globes - increasingly irrelevant and so on. Then again, maybe we will end up seeing Atonement being nominated in the morning! I wouldn't be surprised.

Only mere hours left until the announcement. Excitement!

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Best Director

Paul Thomas Anderson, There Will Be Blood
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, No Country for Old Men
Tony Gilroy, Michael Clayton

Sean Penn, Into the Wild
Julian Schnabel, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

4/5

+Jason Reitman, Juno



Best Actress

Julie Christie, Away From Her
Marion Cotillard, La Vie En Rose

Angelina Jolie, A Mighty Heart
Laura Linney, The Savages
Ellen Page, Juno


4/5

+Cate Blanchett, Elizabeth: The Golden Age



Best Actor

George Clooney, Michael Clayton
Johnny Depp, Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

Ryan Gosling, Lars and the Real Girl
Emile Hirsch, Into the Wild
Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will Be Blood
Viggo Mortensen, Eastern Promises

4/5

+Tommy Lee Jones, In the Valley of Elah



Best Supporting Actor

Casey Affleck, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem, No Country for Old Men
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook, Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson, Michael Clayton


5/5



Best Supporting Actress

Cate Blanchett, I'm Not There
Catherine Keener, Into The Wild
Saoirse Ronan, Atonement
Amy Ryan, Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton, Michael Clayton


4/5

+Ruby Dee, American Gangster



Best Editing

The Bourne Ultimatum
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood


4/5

+Into the Wild



Best Cinematography

The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood


5/5



Best Original Screenplay

Juno
Lars and the Real Girl
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille
The Savages


5/5



Best Adapted Screenplay

Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Into The Wild
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood


4/5

+Away From Her


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No one can read that.

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trixster wrote:
No one can read that.


If you can't read letters than put those dusty glasses on (or use a zoom function).

If you don't understand - the "nominees" are the predicted ones - bolded ones are actual nominees, then you have a number that says how many of 5 nominees have been guessed right, and then if not all are right you have the one that got in but wasn't predicted... Understand know? :funny:


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Oh, I know what it is, I'm just saying that NO ONE can read that, unless they have a 60 inch screen. Make the text larger.

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