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neo_wolf
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hans wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: It's a fucking book! A book!
Doesn't anyone else find that a little ridiculous?! Who gives a shit, honestly? I give a shit because i believe in that fucking book. Good night. he was talking about Harry Potter man
I like those books also. \:D/
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Bodrul
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neo_wolf wrote: hans wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: It's a fucking book! A book!
Doesn't anyone else find that a little ridiculous?! Who gives a shit, honestly? I give a shit because i believe in that fucking book. Good night. he was talking about Harry Potter man I like those books also. \:D/
good for you :wink:
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:58 pm |
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Snrub
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neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: It's a fucking book! A book!
Doesn't anyone else find that a little ridiculous?! Who gives a shit, honestly? I give a shit because i believe in that fucking book. Good night.
Well that's your right I suppose. But then, it's also my right to think you a tit for believing in said "book".
I believe in The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint Exupéry. I believe in Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard. Do you care? Should you care? Hell no!
I don't give a shit that you believe in that fucking book. It's still a "fucking book", no matter who "believes" in it.
Good night.
*folds arms pompously*
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:04 pm |
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Neostorm
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If God God says that homosexuality is unnatural, why is it present in nature?
Source: http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm
Just as in humans, animals often form long-term same-sex relationships. In species in which this normally occurs in heterosexual couples, that shouldn't come as a great surprise, but it does come as a surprise in species where heterosexual pair-bonds don't normally form for long if at all. This is true of bottlenose dolphins, which are not known to form heterosexual pair bonds, but which do in fact form homosexual pair bonds, including sex, and often lasting for life.
In animals in which "bachelor groups" form, such as bison, gazelles, antelope, sage grouse and Guinean cocks-of-the-rock, it is not uncommon for same sex pair bonds to form and last until one or the other member of the pair departs the relationship and breeds. It is also not uncommon for homosexual preference to form among members of such bachelor groups; when offered the opportunity to breed unencumbered with members of the opposite sex or the same sex, they choose the same sex.
The human pattern of bisexuality also appears in animals. In some cases, animals prefer same sex at one point in their lives, and change preference later. They may even change back and forth. In some cases, animals may seek sex with partners of either sex at random.
In animals with a seasonal breeding pattern, homosexuality can even be seasonal. Male walruses, for example, often form homosexual pair bonds and have sex with each other outside of the breeding season, but will revert to a heterosexual pattern during the normal breeding season.
Not At All Unusual
Lest you are tempted to believe that all of this is highly unusual and well out of the ordinary, you're in for quite a surprise. Homosexual behavior is not only common, but even more common in other species than in humans. While numbers are hard to come by, there are a few that present some interesting patterns. In ostriches, male homosexuality is much more common than bisexuality, but among mule deer, bisexuality is more common than homosexuality. Among our closest living relatives, the bonobo chimpanzees, few if any are either exclusively heterosexual or homosexual. Indeed, all that have been observed are exclusively permanently bisexual.
Title and Author: Biological Exhuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity, by Bruce Bagemihl, Ph.D.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:07 pm |
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Maximus
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:08 pm |
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neo_wolf
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Snrub wrote: [ But then, it's also my right to think you a tit for believing in said "book".
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Now using insults(even though i didnt insult you),Thats the sign of a desperate man.
May Jesus bless you.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:13 pm |
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Algren
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makeshift_wings wrote: Algren, you're a fucking moron. Thanks very much. makeshift_wings wrote: What I can't tolerate are people that hate for no fucking reason. You've given no legitimate reasons for your bigotry other than "it bothers me when gay people act gay". Well holy shit! What the fuck do you want them to do? Do you want them to oppress and hide themselves for their entire life just so you can feel comfortable with your sexuality? Does being gay not give you the entitlement to live a good life? If I had any sort of administrative power here at KJ you would never be seen from again. In my opinion, being a hateful cretin for no reason and starting flamebait topics about controversial issues should get you banned. Hopefully they will. Am i not allowed to state my opinion also? People are scared to say the things i have because it gets them in trouble (heaven forbid :razz: ), but i will say what i like, because quite frankly, i think freedom of speech is the way to go. makeshift_wings wrote: BTW - This unprovoked homphobia you've displayed can sometimes be a way of hiding your own, repressed homosexual feelings. You might want to look into that. Oh how many times have i heard this shit. Im not gay. full stop. makeshift_wings wrote: You fucking scum. Thanks very much, dont let the door hit on the way out :wink:
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:15 pm |
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Algren
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Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned?
Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:15 pm |
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Algren
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Token Brown Dude wrote: Sigh ...
Its fun isn't it .. this topic ...
other than 1 or 2 things i agree with (what algren says), yea .. pretty much his arguments are either left unexplained which makes him sound like a complete idiot. Sorry Algren .... either defend your arguments properly or be okay with comments being directed towards you ....
Im fine with the comments directed towards me, i expected this, cheers anyway 
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:16 pm |
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Algren
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Pinkpanther wrote: Very well said. Algren just seems like a hateful individual, and he always pokes fun at my homosexuality in various threads, calling me names such as "faggot", and "queer", and I don't find it funny one bit.
:brent voice: They were affectionate :brent voice: :laugh:
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:17 pm |
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Bodrul
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Algren wrote: Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned? Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself.
what was your opinion? (cant be bothered to look it up)
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:17 pm |
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Algren
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hans wrote: Algren wrote: Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned? Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself. what was your opinion? (cant be bothered to look it up)
I feel homosexuality is a sin. My reasons for this weren't liked.
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Groucho
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Snrub wrote: It's a fucking book! A book!
Doesn't anyone else find that a little ridiculous?! Who gives a shit, honestly?
Indeed --- and every damn religion on the planet, even those that no longer exist, have such a book. And every single religion is convinced that their book is the absolute truth, and all the others are complete fiction.
Of course, the people who read these books nowadays are more enlightened -- they only believe the parts of the book they agree with. The parts of the Bible that support slavery, selling your children, and stoning people to death for petty crimes like planting crops next to each other that are forbidden are ignored because we have evolved past such things, but for some reason the part prohibiting homosexuality is still as powerful as ever.
People who use the Bible to argue their viewpoints will never win an argument against people who actually think.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:23 pm |
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Snrub
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neo_wolf wrote: Now using insults(even though i didnt insult you),Thats the sign of a desperate man.
May Jesus bless you.
I don't deny that I'm a desperate man. I'm desperate for a new job, I'm desperate for a relationship with a gorgeous gal, I'm desperate for something other than my bland, boring excuse for a life. But I'll be damned if my insults to the bible and it's followers be considered "desperate". I consider them apt. I insult you more out of impatience than desperation.
And I'll bless myself thanks very much.
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Bodrul
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Algren wrote: hans wrote: Algren wrote: Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned? Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself. what was your opinion? (cant be bothered to look it up) I feel homosexuality is a sin. My reasons for this weren't liked.
oh dear.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:26 pm |
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Algren
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hans wrote: Algren wrote: hans wrote: Algren wrote: Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned? Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself. what was your opinion? (cant be bothered to look it up) I feel homosexuality is a sin. My reasons for this weren't liked. oh dear.
Its not as bad as you think, to get the feel of it you have to read the posts.
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neo_wolf
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Snrub wrote: I insult you more out of impatience than desperation.
And I'll bless myself thanks very much.
Your insulting me even though i havent said shit about you because you want to put the blame on your misery on someone else.
God bless you.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:32 pm |
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Bodrul
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ok, ill skim through
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makeshift
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Algren wrote: hans wrote: Algren wrote: Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned? Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself. what was your opinion? (cant be bothered to look it up) I feel homosexuality is a sin. My reasons for this weren't liked.
Too bad you never once referred to it as a sin in any of your posts. You even said in one of the first posts in this thread that it wasn't sin, but gay people just annoyed you for acting gay.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:33 pm |
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Snrub
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neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: I insult you more out of impatience than desperation.
And I'll bless myself thanks very much. Your insulting me even though i havent said shit about you because you want to put the blame on your misery on someone else. God bless you.
I'm insulting you because I think your belief system is for shit. I have no misery that I wish to blame on someone else, I just have a general dislike for ignorance and bigotry.
God bless you.
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Tyler
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Mike Ventrella wrote: Snrub wrote: It's a fucking book! A book!
Doesn't anyone else find that a little ridiculous?! Who gives a shit, honestly? Indeed --- and every damn religion on the planet, even those that no longer exist, have such a book. And every single religion is convinced that their book is the absolute truth, and all the others are complete fiction. Of course, the people who read these books nowadays are more enlightened -- they only believe the parts of the book they agree with. The parts of the Bible that support slavery, selling your children, and stoning people to death for petty crimes like planting crops next to each other that are forbidden are ignored because we have evolved past such things, but for some reason the part prohibiting homosexuality is still as powerful as ever. People who use the Bible to argue their viewpoints will never win an argument against people who actually think.
Thank you, an intelligent argument without insults or using a source as dubious and full of holes as the Bible. The first has made the arguments of many, such as Snrub's and makeshift's, hard to agree with, and the second has made the arguments of people here against homosexuality laughable.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:41 pm |
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neo_wolf
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Snrub wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: I insult you more out of impatience than desperation.
And I'll bless myself thanks very much. Your insulting me even though i havent said shit about you because you want to put the blame on your misery on someone else. God bless you. I'm insulting you because I think your belief system is for shit. I have no misery that I wish to blame on someone else, I just have a general dislike for ignorance and bigotry. God bless you.
Well fuck,i guess you hated Martin Luther king also huh?
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:43 pm |
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Bodrul
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Pretty pathetic excuses algren :razz: For what its worth, my view on gays is similar, I do see it as a sin. But, I do not mind being around gay people. Gays tend to be more fun, happy, open-minded and friendly. At the end of the day it is their choice and they will pay for it whatever the consequences are.
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:43 pm |
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Algren
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makeshift_wings wrote: Algren wrote: hans wrote: Algren wrote: Maverikk wrote: Algren, a little advice here. The masses are starting to turn on you. Either tone it down, or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Wouldn't toning it down be a better option that having people not like you or getting banned? Why would i get banned for simply stating my opinion, like you and others do everyday about other topics. The masses? thats that all about? i dont care if the whole world turn against me, if i have an opinion i will stick by it, im sorry but i dont doubt myself. what was your opinion? (cant be bothered to look it up) I feel homosexuality is a sin. My reasons for this weren't liked. Too bad you never once referred to it as a sin in any of your posts. You even said in one of the first posts in this thread that it wasn't sin, but gay people just annoyed you for acting gay.
...that included of course.
makeshift, are you gay? do you like gays? whats your outlook on gays?
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Groucho
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neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Snrub wrote: I insult you more out of impatience than desperation.
And I'll bless myself thanks very much. Your insulting me even though i havent said shit about you because you want to put the blame on your misery on someone else. God bless you. I'm insulting you because I think your belief system is for shit. I have no misery that I wish to blame on someone else, I just have a general dislike for ignorance and bigotry. God bless you. Well fuck,i guess you hated Martin Luther king also huh?
WTF? Did you read his post? He spoke about disliking ignorance and bigotry. Are you saying MLK was in favor of ignorance and bigotry?
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