It's opening awfully late though. I wish it were opening earlier so it's garnered box office could be more impressive. It'll be hitting the nominations period so early in it's run. Ballots are mailed out Dec 26th.

Peace,
Mike

sweeny is going to kick chicago's ass, 200m+

Nice

That's true, so it will have the box office strength for the Best Picture win by the time final ballots are mailed out (provided Sweeney Todd actually does well at the box office, which I think it will).

I just worry for it's nominations. To be frank, I want Sweeney Todd to get as many nominations as possible. Hell, I want 14 noms here. While were on the subject, is that even possible on an eligibility level? I know it has no original songs, so that hurts. Probably not an original score either? Let's see:

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Actor (Johnny Depp)
Best Supporting Actress (Helena Bonham Carter)
Best Supporting Actor (Sacha Baron Cohen)
Best Film Editing
Best Cinematography
Best Art Direction
Best Costume Design
Best Makeup
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Sound Mixing
Best Sound Editing

Am I missing any? If not, it can't even get 14 nominations (well, unless it managed to get 2 supporting actor nominations, but I find that pretty much completely unlikely). A single Best Supporting Actor nom isn't even assured.

I'm not sure what other categories Sweeney Todd is poised to be strong in. Maybe you can help clarify loyal? I should probably look to what musicals ordinarily get nominated for, but I am too lazy to look back right now.

Peace,
Mike

So, a realistic (but still slightly assuming) look would be 10 nominations then:

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Actor (Johnny Depp)
Best Supporting Actress (Helena Bonham Carter)
Best Film Editing
Best Cinematography
Best Art Direction
Best Costume Design
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Sound Mixing

I'm hoping it can nab at least 11, which it could with an added Best Sound Editing nom and/or Best Supporting Actor. But I will be happy with anything double digits, since that fulfills my "nominations dominator" hope. I assume Makeup is out, since that category is so whack and the weirdest films are nominated every year. And are they still at only 3 noms for that category? Lame.

Peace,
Mike

Ooh, cool. I didn't know that. Well, that makes me happy. Here's to a Makeup nomination hopefully then, too!

Peace,
Mike

You have friends in the Pirates 3 threads!

this is pretty much locked in for a nom now. I'm quite certain it won't win, but if Moulin Rouge could get in with a more mixed response than this seems to be getting, there's no way this is missing out.

And while the NBR has to make me withdraw TWBB as a "lock," I'm still quite certain it wasn't screened for them due to being fully shut out despite extraordinary reviews. Meaning Atonement, NCFOM, and ST are the close-to-locks, with TWBB close behind, and the last slot being slightly up in the air, while I lean towards Juno for being the only lighthearted possibility [aside from CWW, which very likely won't pick up a nom]

There Will Be Blood shouldn't be a lock anyway. It has the same studio as No Country For Old Men, and that's a pretty reliable indicator in my experience.

I'm thinking:

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Actor (Depp)
Best Art Direction
Best Cinematography
Best Costume Design
Best Editing
Best Makeup
Best Sound Mixing

9 nominations, actually the exact same noms Moulin Rouge got just with Director. And really, if the film were to catch on like Loyal wishes, I could see it sweeping all of these categories (Sans maybe Cinematography, assuming the Deakins love keeps up).

How could I ever doubt the Burton. I now declare, sight unseen, that this film shall be my Children of Men of 2007.

It was Christopher Smith of the Daily Bangor News that finally tipped me over the edge.

Hmm. Yes, I'm finally jumping on board. It would make me very happy to see Burton nab an Oscar, finally.

Count me in, loyal!

That RT average is superb. If it can maintain that, I'll be mightily impressed, and I will probably have to drop my membership from the Atonement thread and officially predict a Sweeney Todd win.

Peace,
Mike

My (new) thinking on this is that this is probably the closest Burton's ever going to get to making an Academy-friendly film. Lots of people in Hollywood love him (at a guess), and if they don't, well, they certainly recognise him as a visionary auteur deserving of praise and recognition. And they probably also realise that this is the only time he's ever going to come close to getting it.

And that will probably trump any other director this year. I'm calling him a shoo-in for the Best Director Oscar come February.

BJ must be added

I'm going to be so pissed if I'm dissapointed. Time and time again I've gotten onboard his projects due to their beautiful trailers, only to be let down once more. Well, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory may be an exception and had I been old enough to see anything he's made in theaters pre Mars Attacks it'd be differnent, but still, that's a lot of bruises. And with this film getting such ridiculous hype on here I can't help but feel another sting coming.

If Ratatouille does NOT get nominated for Best Picture... THEN I will join this club. But ONLY then!!!

Looks like you'll definitely be joining then.

Wise words.

I have been sadly disappointed by Mr. Burton far more than I have been pleasantly surprised...

I'm keeping my expectations really low myself, since the "making of" special last weekend late night on ABC made the film seem very ordinary.

I support Sweeney but I'm pretty sure No Country and Blood will duel it out now. But we'll see.

I'm in. It's Burton. I'll love it for sure.

Though HBC looks like she was making HP5 and ST at the same time.

I am still a bit surprised about the general lack of appearances by Depp in the awards so far (sans BFCA).

One more review added on RT. They added one more CotC critic (if I remember correctly the old reviews the new one is from David Ansen from Newsweek).

100% / 8.6

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1183955 ... et_street/

Bloody good (pun intended)