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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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 Re: The Official Sweeney Todd Will Win Best Picture Thread
Levy wrote: What's the obsession with pie-makers these days btw? Waitress, Pushing Daisies, Sweeney Todd... I don't know, it's almost as weird as how many great pregnancy comedies have been coming out this year.
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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I'm starting to get the feeling that this film could really win, even despite it's bloodiness. It's peaking at the perfect time, and it's garnering strong reviews. And it could capitalize because it was a film that was always sort of seen as a possible Oscar film, and yet it was very off in the distance. In a way, there was a real lack of expectations, and the film seems to ultimately be REALLY good. People have been wary about the film's chances, and now it's unravelling with plenty of media and strong reviews and in many cases acting raves. And of course lots of talk about how this is Burton's best since "such and such". And it's got the big musical package, the type of film that allows for nominations across the board.
At the moment, I'm still not predicting it to win Best Picture (not sure why loyal put me on his list when I said I wasn't predicting it to win already), but we'll see.
Peace, Mike
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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It's kind of Departed-ish, isn't it? People weren't expecting that to be an Oscar contender, but then the "omg" reactions started pouring in and it got all the passion in the world. Also, violent, and Burton is due like Scorsese. But even with that, I'm more supporting ST than actually predicting it wins. Unfortunatley Atonement still has the whip, I'd say.
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Shack wrote: It's kind of Departed-ish, isn't it? People weren't expecting that to be an Oscar contender, but then the "omg" reactions started pouring in and it got all the passion in the world. Also, violent, and Burton is due like Scorsese. But even with that, I'm more supporting ST than actually predicting it wins. Unfortunatley Atonement still has the whip, I'd say. You pretty much summed up my feelings. It is in a way like The Departed, in the reaction sense. It is a film that hasn't really trumped itself up as the Oscar film (like Dreamgirls did excessively) and is now in a way a "surprise" hit critically, since people were so wary to put it atop their lists of possibilities. Peace, Mike
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Viper Rodgers
Leader of the Pack
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:35 am Posts: 1526 Location: A better place
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I want to be in because i think this does looking freaking amazing, but....... I just can't say i am in until i see it. Right now i have the feeling that "No Country for Old Men" is the kind of film the academy would pick... Even though i thought it was mediocore... SO BRING ON DECEMBER 21st!!!! 
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Emanuel Levy gave it an A: Quote: Dark, haunting, and unified in theme and style, "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street," Tim Burton horror-musical movie of Stephen Sondheim's masterpiece creation, is a brilliant work of art. Coherent and uncompromising, this smooth rendition should satisfy the purists and fans of the 1979 Tony award-winning Broadway show-â€â€despite a number of substantial narrative and musical changes, some of which for the better.
Quote: As far as movie musicals are concerned, "Sweeney Todd" is superior to last year's "Dreamgirls" and to this year's "Hairspray"--it's the most impressive Hollywood musical to be seen since Luhrrmann's "Moulin Rouge," in 2001, also a visionary work, and before that, "Cabaret," by Bob Fosse, in 1972.
"Sweeny Todd" achieves a number of records. First, it's the most satisfying film of any Sondheim work transferred to the big screen, including the joyous but artistically mediocre "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum," and the vastly disappointing "A Little Night Music," a movie that with the exception of one or two actors was miscast, movies that failed to convey the magic of their respective theatrical productions.
Though nominally it's is Tim Burton's first foray into the musical genre, "Sweeney Todd" is arguably the auteur's best film in over a decade, easily since the stylized black-and-white biopic-tribute, "Ed Wood," in 1994, starring Johnny Depp as the notoriously inept director.
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Levy
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Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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Could you please write Eugene Levy. Whenever the guy is mentioned I always have an irritating moment, thinking What did I do again? before realizing we're talking about real world 
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:12 am |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
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so i guess i'm the only one not excited about this film?
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:24 pm |
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Levy
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Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Roger Friedman has Sweeney Todd as his #1 film of 2007
Who?
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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in Sweeney is here to stay 
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:03 pm |
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Levy
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Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Levy wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Roger Friedman has Sweeney Todd as his #1 film of 2007
Who? He's an entertainment journalist, like you. Just famous and less German.  I just never heard of him before. How "important" is he compared to Ebert, EW et al.)
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Snrub
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm Posts: 8767 Location: Great Living Standards
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And the Oscar goes to...
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Levy
Golfaholic
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Snrub wrote: And the Oscar goes to... Quick. Tell me...
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billybobwashere
He didn't look busy?!
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1183955 ... /?show=allthe review near the bottom is accidentally on there; it's of one of the Broadway musicals, not the film...the four grades for the film itself are positive, resulting in an 8.1/10 avg. This is becoming a HUGE contender now.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:38 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Shaping up to becoming my favorite film of all time. I can feeeeeeel it. This is pretty much the movie I'd make. All my favorite actors/actresses, crew, director, genre (musical), and is going all out. Not that I doubted it months ago or anything of course..
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:07 pm |
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roo
invading your spaces
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:44 pm Posts: 6194
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loyalfromlondon wrote: These reviews are doing a great thing by distancing Sweeney from Dreamgirls, Chicago, and Moulin Rouge!, all great musicals in their own right. But pardon the pun, they were all razzle dazzle and staging (and not a bad thing necessarily). Wait... did you just diss Moulin Rouge!? Oh no you di-int.
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billybobwashere
He didn't look busy?!
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308
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no no, while Moulin Rouge definitely was about the look and appearance, there's no denying it's one of the most creative films in nearly every regard ever made. Taking modern-day songs and changing them up completely, the colors, the sets, all of it was extremely ballsy, whereas Chicago and even moreso Dreamgirls played it safer in that regard.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:16 pm |
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roo
invading your spaces
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:44 pm Posts: 6194
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I LOVEDDDD Moulin Rouge!
But it's certainly not an old school movie magic musical, which seems to be the winning factor in Sweeney Todd.
Did I mention I loved Moulin Rouge!, cause I did. It's one thing to be anticipating Sweeny Todd... it's another thing to throw Moulin Rouge! to the wolves for a movie you haven't seen yet!!! f'o sho!
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:30 pm |
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roo
invading your spaces
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:44 pm Posts: 6194
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Not high enough!
Interesting that you have my #1 of the 2000s and #1 of the 1990s within two places though.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:47 pm |
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Jim Halpert
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Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Jim Halpert wrote: so i guess i'm the only one not excited about this film? Yeah, I'm not sure how Sweeney plays in Texarkana. texarkana? i've lived down south for 2 1/2 years. I'm from michigan. I just dislike Tim Burton a lot.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:39 am |
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Jonathan
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Top Ten mention and Director win at NBR. Not bad. They don't have a very good streak with directors (Remember when Zwick won for Last Samurai? Mann for Collateral?), but it certainly doesn't hurt. Also, mentioning it in the Top Ten when they snubbed Dreamgirls last year is a notable improvement.
I'm thisclose to predicting it for Picture, but definitely not a win yet.
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Libs
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I'm predicting it for a nomination now.
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xiayun
Extraordinary
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Yeah, a nomination appears inevitable.
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snack
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Things are looking really good for this now.
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14628 Location: LA / NYC
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OK, I'm officially in this club now. I'm really feeling that this will win at this point.
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