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What grade would you give this film?
A 50%  50%  [ 46 ]
B 33%  33%  [ 30 ]
C 9%  9%  [ 8 ]
D 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
F 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
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Freaking awesome! All the f/x were amazing. The lines that the Autobots had were great.
One of the best lines in the whole movie: "This is better than Armageddon!" by random fat guy filming the astroids.

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ChipMunk-Y wrote:
FANTASTIC.

Everything about it. The plot, the script, the action, the FX.

9.9/10 A+


I'm going to wager a guess that you've never actually read a script in your life.


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The Dark Shape wrote:
ChipMunk-Y wrote:
FANTASTIC.

Everything about it. The plot, the script, the action, the FX.

9.9/10 A+


I'm going to wager a guess that you've never actually read a script in your life.


I heard a script. It was witty. It had laughs. It had corny as hell lines. It accomplished everything I wanted.

Who the hell READS scripts? Producers? I am no producer, so why should I read the script.

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ChipMunk-Y wrote:
The Dark Shape wrote:
ChipMunk-Y wrote:
FANTASTIC.

Everything about it. The plot, the script, the action, the FX.

9.9/10 A+


I'm going to wager a guess that you've never actually read a script in your life.


I heard a script. It was witty. It had laughs. It had corny as hell lines. It accomplished everything I wanted.

Who the hell READS scripts? Producers? I am no producer, so why should I read the script.


Maybe you shouldn't call something great unless you've -- I don't know -- actually read it?


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Umm... I'm pretty sure everything that happens in the movie is the script.

Why would I need to read it if I saw/heard it all on the big screen?

You make no sense.

But anyways. Why must you come into a thread like this hate on me? Is it because your movie choices suck?

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ChipMunk-Y wrote:
Umm... I'm pretty sure everything that happens in the movie is the script.

Why would I need to read it if I saw/heard it all on the big screen?


...because, for one, movies change incredibly from the script. Moreover, you just praised the plot of a movie that revolves around eBay product placement.

ChipMunk-Y wrote:
But anyways. Why must you come into a thread like this hate on me? Is it because your movie choices suck?


I didn't come into this thread to hate on anybody. I saw the comment and replied. Didn't notice it was you till after I saw the message on the board.


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The Dark Shape wrote:
ChipMunk-Y wrote:
Umm... I'm pretty sure everything that happens in the movie is the script.

Why would I need to read it if I saw/heard it all on the big screen?


...because, for one, movies change incredibly from the script. Moreover, you just praised the plot of a movie that revolves around eBay product placement.

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But anyways. Why must you come into a thread like this hate on me? Is it because your movie choices suck?


I didn't come into this thread to hate on anybody. I saw the comment and replied. Didn't notice it was you till after I saw the message on the board.


And you praise a movie based on a mediocre childrens book.

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Guys, leave the argument in the other thread.

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Saw Transformers tonight..........WOW, just WOW!

DId this movie ever stink! My jaw is aching from clinching my teeth at the dialogue to keep from howling or screaming.

I'm glad its over and I'll never have to watch it again. But I am very sorry I paid for this experience. Sheesh.

Won't walk the plank, indeed.

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sandekat wrote:
WOW, just WOW!

DId this movie ever stink! My jaw is aching from clinching my teeth at the dialogue to keep from howling or screaming.

I'm glad its over and I'll never have to watch it again. But I am very sorry I paid for this experience. Sheesh.

Won't walk the plank, indeed.


I think you may be in the wrong thread...

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I must admit Transformers was actually quite enjoyable, I was expecting a shit storm and came out pleasantly surprised. The comedy for the most part worked, and the fx, well were just awesome. My two biggest gripes were the human element of the story which was just really pretty poor, and the action. I hate this quick cut style and endless close ups, sure it looks cool, but often it's hard to tell what's actually going on. But overall I enjoyed myself, but a sense that this could've been so much better in the hands of a more skilled director still remains. But whatever, we got Bay and he didn't do a bad job.

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It's alright as mindless summer entertainment, but adding it to the ranks of the upper echelon of action cinema seems to be a bit premature. The creators seem well aware that the movie ought to be humorous, light-hearted (as far as mass destruction and doom and gloom go) and so in that sense it seems almost like a parody of itself (except Bay, who was no doubt giddy upon learning he had tens of millions of dollars to spend on more empty action sequences)... still, it doesn't leave one with the sentiment that they've just seen something great, something superior and lasting. Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects and (thankfully) tongue-in-cheek character interplay. The film is probably as good as it gets considering the concept and the commercialism driving the project.

**.5 / ****

Oh, and Shia LaBeouf was actually, well, charming and fun.


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zennier wrote:
Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects...


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zennier wrote:
Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects...

That's not so bad; I've waited for years for such a wonderfully "elevated" action film.

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Angela Merkel wrote:
zennier wrote:
Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects...

That's not so bad; I've waited for years for such a wonderfully "elevated" action film.

I believe the reason zennier put the word 'elevated' in quotation marks was different than your own...


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:blink: ... That was freaking brilliant. Had so much fun. Best movie of the summer so far for me. The FX's are awesome and the humor actually worked!.

Shia does it again :happy:

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Well despite the lure of the internet I managed to hold off on those inviting Transformers copies and stuck it out until the cinema release.

My verdict is this was a hugely enjoyable piece of "big screen" entertainment, and I'd emphasis the big screen part since I reckon the impact would be lessened on a smaller presentation.

Anyhoo what worked:

Its bloody hilarious in parts, especially in the first half. Shia proves himself a man of great comic timing and he's not left hung out to dry as he gets able support from all sides. Frenzy was one of the funniest little bastards I've ever seen, he's like a metallic Gremlin, I'd definetly have him around for a laugh and would try to ignore the whole firing sharp objects out of his belly deal. The funniest scene has to be the Autobots in Sam's yard, it borders on slapstick genius at points.

The Scorponok attack on the Iraqi village was quite possible one of the best filmed action sequences I have ever laid my eyes on. If I ever get a film made thats how I want all my action shots to look.

The SFX is indeed stunning to behold, some of the most seamless integration of CGI creatures into reality I've seen this side of the waterside attack in The Host.

The voice acting from all the Transformers was spot on. Cullen's gravelly tones perfect for the part.

Loved the soundtrack

What did or didn't work, more just observations:

The product placement didn't bother me, the Ebay part was integral to the movement of the story, anybody who complains about that needs to be slapped. Granted that little snippet with the Panasonic SD card almost fell into the realm of The Island level of product battering ram advertising but other it didn't bother me in the slightest, and honestly If somebody uses this as a reason to dislike the film they are rather nuts and to a point lying In my view.

Optimus Prime really made Bonecrusher his bitch! :biggrin:

What was with that brief scene with the President? Make the Bush bashing less odd in future lads.

They were smart in a way to turn some of the battles in the last 20 minutes into a juddering shaker of lunacy. I honestly don't think the CGI could survive lingering close battle shots no matter how good it was.

The speeches didn't bother me. I hated the Pearl Harbour, Armageddon monologues because of their Jingoistic undertones, these speeches were slightly cheesy but fine, althou why the hell were Prime and Megatron continuing with the verbal sparring while in battle? Its a fight lads, less talk talk more bash bash.

This film like I said needs a big screen for full effect. Anybody who watched this on a computer monitor is just kidding themselves

What didn't work:

John Voights character is rather dumb, and that Level 7 character was plain idiotic.

Megan Fox didn't serve any real useful purpose beyond eye candy.

Overall I was pleased with the end product, and am glad at least one summer blockbuster delivered the big budget entertainment I've been craving all summer.

As for a grade, well it might fall slightly on a smaller screen but for the moment.


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Two more weeks waiting
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MG Casey wrote:
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I'D LIKE TO SMACK ALL OF YOU KJ'ERS WHO HAD VIDEO CLIPS OF ACTION SEQUENCES FROM TRANSFOMRERS AS THEIR AVATAR. WHY RUIN A MOVIE'S SURPRISES??? I FELT LIKE I HAD SEEN ALL OF THESE SHOTS BEFORE.

THANKS FOR RUINING A GOOD PORTION OF THE MOVIE


They were all in the trailers. Unless you lived under a rock you'd have seen them before seeing the film.

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I'D LIKE TO SMACK ALL OF YOU KJ'ERS WHO HAD VIDEO CLIPS OF ACTION SEQUENCES FROM TRANSFOMRERS AS THEIR AVATAR. WHY RUIN A MOVIE'S SURPRISES??? I FELT LIKE I HAD SEEN ALL OF THESE SHOTS BEFORE.

THANKS FOR RUINING A GOOD PORTION OF THE MOVIE


They were all in the trailers. Unless you lived under a rock you'd have seen them before seeing the film.

NO

Indeed they were in the trailers. But you usually forget all those little scenes, sure some will look familiar, but not if just watch the trailer once or twice. BUT with them in the avatars, they repeated OVER and OVER looking through all the threads here in KJ, kinda annoying.


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MG Casey wrote:
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BUT

I'D LIKE TO SMACK ALL OF YOU KJ'ERS WHO HAD VIDEO CLIPS OF ACTION SEQUENCES FROM TRANSFOMRERS AS THEIR AVATAR. WHY RUIN A MOVIE'S SURPRISES??? I FELT LIKE I HAD SEEN ALL OF THESE SHOTS BEFORE.

THANKS FOR RUINING A GOOD PORTION OF THE MOVIE


They were all in the trailers. Unless you lived under a rock you'd have seen them before seeing the film.

NO

Indeed they were in the trailers. But you usually forget all those little scenes, sure some will look familiar, but not if just watch the trailer once or twice. BUT with them in the avatars, they repeated OVER and OVER looking through all the threads here in KJ, kinda annoying.


Then I honestly think you have Alzheimer's. :smile:

And I find that massive text insinuating a person is a moron/deaf rather annoying as well ;)

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Angela Merkel wrote:
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Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects...

That's not so bad; I've waited for years for such a wonderfully "elevated" action film.


See posts like the one you just quoted piss me off.

I'm sorry. Exactly what else did the film promise before you walked into it?

Most have come to destroy us. Some have come to protect us.

Yes well .. this must offer some kind of an elaborate moral debate on the parts of the film makers.

No ... it was meant to be an all out special effects extravaganza with little to no thought given into story telling. That was what the film promised when you walked in. Nothing more.

Yet it provided a bit more. laughs, and some great acting by quite a bit of the cast .


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Thw Kwik-E-Mart Guy wrote:
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Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects...

That's not so bad; I've waited for years for such a wonderfully "elevated" action film.


See posts like the one you just quoted piss me off.

I'm sorry. Exactly what else did the film promise before you walked into it?

Most have come to destroy us. Some have come to protect us.

Yes well .. this must offer some kind of an elaborate moral debate on the parts of the film makers.

No ... it was meant to be an all out special effects extravaganza with little to no thought given into story telling. That was what the film promised when you walked in. Nothing more.

Yet it provided a bit more. laughs, and some great acting by quite a bit of the cast .

I, for one, felt promised more by the trailer (I raved about it - joined a club even)...



(As if "little to no thought given into story telling" should ever be an option to a filmmaker! :disgust: )


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Thw Kwik-E-Mart Guy wrote:
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Instead, it's just another action movie that's "elevated" by a series of elaborate special effects...

That's not so bad; I've waited for years for such a wonderfully "elevated" action film.


See posts like the one you just quoted piss me off.

I'm sorry. Exactly what else did the film promise before you walked into it?

Most have come to destroy us. Some have come to protect us.

Yes well .. this must offer some kind of an elaborate moral debate on the parts of the film makers.

No ... it was meant to be an all out special effects extravaganza with little to no thought given into story telling. That was what the film promised when you walked in. Nothing more.

Yet it provided a bit more. laughs, and some great acting by quite a bit of the cast .


I wasn't expecting Shakespeare, but a film without an unintentionally funny, cold script would have been nice. I've got no problems with epic action films - hell, I'll admit that Star Wars is, indeed, one of the greatest films ever - but I do have a problem with shallow, commercial films that bring NOTHING to the table. It's not the concept that I'm griping about, it's the final product.

The idea that I'm supposed to accept shit because it was marketed as shit seems sort of insulting.


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zennier wrote:
but a film without an unintentionally funny, cold script would have been nice.


But it was deliberately funny.

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But I do have a problem with shallow, commercial films that bring NOTHING to the table. It's not the concept that I'm griping about, it's the final product.


It brought action and entertainment to the table, something the rest of the summer heavy hitters failed miserable to do in my view.

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The idea that I'm supposed to accept shit because it was marketed as shit seems sort of insulting.


I don't beleive Arsi is saying that at all. The tone of your review suggested you fully expected what you got but decided to be annoyed regardless.

For me its a question of whether the faults in this film were a deal breaker in terms of enjoying it. For me I enjoyed it, for you the faults clearly hit at aspects of cinematic enjoyment you consider important (don't bother with the "oh well unlike you I consider story, plot and character development important" because so do I but there are an infinite number of ways for a film to be a success, and this films route worked in relation within its own genre constraints). I'll fully admit I fucking hate people who do things like deride films like lets say Hairspray or the Saw series because they're either silly musicals or "disgusting torture porn". Likewise with this film if anybody brings up the shallow argument.

Of the negative reviews in this thread I reckon Bradley's and Trixster's are the most solid, because their reasoning is sound and doesn't point out elements that will always be found in these types of films and try to smugly pass it off as them displaying superior brains by pointing it out.

Its just you seem to be pointing out the blinding obvious about certain aspects of this film and feel intellectually superior to those who enjoyed it because of that. I could be wrong but thats the feeling I get. :smile:

But hey if you didn't enjoy it thats a pity, I never want anybody to go to a film to have a bad time. :sad:

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