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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Rendition probably out of the race
The early RT score doesn't look encouraging, at all, but what makes things even worse is the fact that it was panned by Variety AND HR which is never a good sign for a potential nominee. Emanuel Levy wasn't fond of it either: http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/rendition/That leaves more space for Lions for Lambs and Charlie Wilson's War.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:00 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Well it's still early... Ebert also called it "perfect", giving it light.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:14 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
But Ebert hass been giving out 4 stars left and right recently.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:41 pm |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
2.5 average from the two big publications, ouch.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:43 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
JUST TELL ME HE'S OK!!!
The trailer made me cringe
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:55 pm |
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Timayd
The 5th B-Sharp
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:48 am Posts: 1506
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Shack wrote: JUST TELL ME HE'S OK!!!
The trailer made me cringe I know, I never really considered it in the race to begin wiht.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:58 pm |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
I actually thought the trailer looked potentially dcent but yowza, HR and Variety really make it out to be pretty shitty.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:42 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Shack wrote: JUST TELL ME HE'S OK!!! I actually almost laughed when she screamed that line in a TV spot last night. What the hell did Ebert see in this?
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:44 pm |
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Rod
Extra on the Ordinary
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:50 pm Posts: 12821
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
yeah the "tell me he's ok part" was awful although i do think reese looked like she was a lot better in the moments of quiet desperation in the film.
Ebert's review isn't the only great one for the film. And I don't really think Hollywood Reporter/Variety are that important (the only reason they get so much attention for their reviews is they're usually the two FIRST major publications to have reviews out for films).
In spite of that, I do agree that in this case it the film doesn't really stand much of a chance in the Oscar race.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:40 pm |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
I guess I'm the only one who liked that line...
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:08 pm |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
The reasons THR and Variety are important are 1) their reviews come out early; 2) their reviews tend to correlate well with the rest of print critics, i.e. a film normally won't receive a 80%+ RT without getting positive reviews from both, and a film is almost never getting nominated for Best Picture without receiving at least one positive from them (the only exception in last some years is The Pianist). Combining both, they give us a very early clue on how a film will be received from the rest of critics in general. Mixed and mild negatives are not necessarily daggers, but one outright pan, let alone two like the case here, pretty much seals the deal.
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Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:10 am |
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Christian
Team Kris
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:02 pm Posts: 27584 Location: The Damage Control Table
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
MovieDude wrote: I guess I'm the only one who liked that line... I quite (kind of) liked it as well. Or maybe I prefer it to "IT'S RAINING!!!111" (ugh) line from the Cold Mountain trailer.
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Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:04 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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Christian wrote: MovieDude wrote: I guess I'm the only one who liked that line... I quite (kind of) liked it as well. Or maybe I prefer it to "IT'S RAINING!!!111" (ugh) line from the Cold Mountain trailer. Oh geez, the memories of that horrible line of dialogue. I love Cold Mountain (and loved Zellweger in it), but I definitely cringed when she had that speech.
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Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:49 am |
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Rod
Extra on the Ordinary
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Lol i actually think within the context of the story the It's raining line worked for Cold Mountain.
(though for some reason people often reference the quote from the trailer. which is NOT quite the same as the one in the actual film).
I don't even mind the LINE itself in Rendition. It's the way in which Reese Witherspoon delivers it. Not convincing at all.
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Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:29 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Rod wrote: Lol i actually think within the context of the story the It's raining line worked for Cold Mountain.
(though for some reason people often reference the quote from the trailer. which is NOT quite the same as the one in the actual film).
Actually, I agree with you on this one.
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Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:35 pm |
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Christian
Team Kris
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Dr. Lecter wrote: Rod wrote: Lol i actually think within the context of the story the It's raining line worked for Cold Mountain.
(though for some reason people often reference the quote from the trailer. which is NOT quite the same as the one in the actual film).
Actually, I agree with you on this one. THat's why I hate it even more... it's completely different (heavily edited) and much annoying in the trailer.
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Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:03 am |
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Christian
Team Kris
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
Rod wrote: I don't even mind the LINE itself in Rendition. It's the way in which Reese Witherspoon delivers it. Not convincing at all. The way she breaks up in "OKAAAAY" like a boy going through puberty.
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Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:19 am |
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Rod
Extra on the Ordinary
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 Re: Rendition probably out of the race
It's up to 50% now without Ebert's review taken into account.
I don't know about its Oscar chances but as far as it RT score, I think it could go either way right now. It'll probably end up being just barely "fresh" or just below the "rotten" mark
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