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Box
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Krem wrote: I'm an avowed atheist.
Do you see Abraham as a schizo? People always get pissed off when I say that, lol, but if you read Genesis without believing in God, he comes off as a bit of a looney.
Actually, a lot of the characters do.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:56 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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makeshift_wings wrote: I just find it very hard to believe that a person with his stature can be that ignorant.
He is still a human being...
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makeshift
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Krem wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: Krem wrote: At a costume party? How so? Yes, it's in poor taste, but in no way is it an actual endorsement.
At a Halloween party this year three of my friends were dressed as Arab terrorists. They're all Jewish. Take a wild guess whether they were endorsing Islamist views or not. Completely different situation. The humor in that is clear and visible. The guy we're talking about is the definition of an aryan as far as looks go, and people know next to nothing about him. Again, there is no way he could have thought this would been seen as funny by anyone. Prince Harry is known for his antics. This is hardly the first time he does something stupid. Unlike his shy brother, Harry has made constant headlines for bad behaviour. In January, 2002, it was revealed that the prince had admitted smoking marijuana and allegedly engaged in underage drinking, in the summer of 2001, prompting the possibility of criminal charges being filed against him. Ultimately, a police investigation cleared Harry of wrongdoing. Charles was praised for his handling of the situation, which included taking Harry to visit a drug rehabilitation facility in London. [1] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1757448.stm)
The basement of Charles's Highgrove home is rumoured to be nicknamed Club H, an intimate and private nightclub for Harry and his friends.
On the morning of 21 October 2004, Harry got into a fracas with a paparazzo as he exited a Piccadilly Circus nightclub. After the story hit the tabloids, he issued a statement in which he stated that his behaviour had been "disappointing" and in which he publicly apologised to Charles.
On January 13, 2005, Prince Harry was pictured on the front page of The Sun newspaper, at a fancy dress party dressed in a Nazi costume, complete with a swastika armband. After the photo was made public, the Prince issued an immediate apology.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Harry_of_WalesQuote: Also, what exactly does an Arab terrorist look like? Kinda like this:  THough they had the whole suicide bomber thing going too. By the way, I was dressed as a priest. I'm an avowed atheist.
Huge difference between smoking weed and dressing up like a Nazi. If he had shown signs of having no sense of humor and being as dumb as a rock, I might buy it.
Again, your Halloween party is a completely different situation. For strarters, i'm sure you knew a lot of the people there and they knew you. Also, as much as you may think ( :razz: ), you're not an important member of society who's every move is scrutinized.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:57 am |
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makeshift
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box_2005 wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: I just find it very hard to believe that a person with his stature can be that ignorant. You doubt people of high stature can be ignorant? How about the American President? I'm sure someone can dig up some stuff about him in his youth that would display his ignorance. Actually, I think you could dig up something about him during his presidency that would proof his ignorance. A lot of people in prominent positions and in high stature are about as ignorant as the lowliest peasant there is out there.
It's not that I doubt that people of high stature can be ignorant, it's that they shouldn't be. Not when that many people look up to you.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:58 am |
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makeshift
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Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: I just find it very hard to believe that a person with his stature can be that ignorant. He is still a human being...
Okay...
I'm not really sure what to say. I guess I don't get your point? 
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:01 am |
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Box
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makeshift_wings wrote: Okay... I'm not really sure what to say. I guess I don't get your point? 
1. Harry is a human being
2. All Human Beings Are Capable of Stupid Things.
C. Harry is Capable of Stupid Things.
Valid AND Sound. You Go Lecter!
And truly, our species sucks.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:03 am |
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makeshift
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box_2005 wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: Okay... I'm not really sure what to say. I guess I don't get your point?  1. Harry is a human being 2. Human Beings Are Capable of Stupid Things. C. Harry is Capable of Stupid Things. Valid AND Sound. You Go Lecter! And truly, our species sucks.
This goes above and beyond being "stupid". A stupid thing is getting drunk and getting in a fight. Wearing a Nazi outfit in public is heinous. Most human beings don't do heinous things.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:06 am |
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Box
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makeshift_wings wrote: It's not that I doubt that people of high stature can be ignorant, it's that they shouldn't be. Not when that many people look up to you.
Well, after this, there'll be fewer people looking up to him. I mean, there's still his brother. He seems somewhat ok. And if not him, well, we all still have Britney Spears 
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:07 am |
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Box
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makeshift_wings wrote: This goes above and beyond being "stupid". A stupid thing is getting drunk and getting in a fight. Wearing a Nazi outfit in public is heinous. Most human beings don't do heinous things.
I didn't say they do heinous things, I said they are capable of doing heinous things. Two completely different things.
I'm capable of killing you, and you are capable of killing me. That doesn't mean that we will kill each other.
At least I hope it doesn't [-X :-s
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:09 am |
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makeshift
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box_2005 wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: This goes above and beyond being "stupid". A stupid thing is getting drunk and getting in a fight. Wearing a Nazi outfit in public is heinous. Most human beings don't do heinous things.
I didn't say they do heinous things, I said they are capable of doing heinous things. Two completely different things. I'm capable of killing you, and you are capable of killing me. That doesn't mean that we will kill each other. At least I hope it doesn't [-X :-s
Well, actually, you said they're capable of stupid things.... :razz:
Anywho, being capable of doing something and then actually doing said something are a world apart. We, as creatures of free will, are capable of doing anything. The fact that we don't is what seperates us from a dog or a cat.
Whew. This conversation has veered off quite incredibly. 
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:13 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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makeshift_wings wrote: box_2005 wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: Okay... I'm not really sure what to say. I guess I don't get your point?  1. Harry is a human being 2. Human Beings Are Capable of Stupid Things. C. Harry is Capable of Stupid Things. Valid AND Sound. You Go Lecter! And truly, our species sucks. This goes above and beyond being "stupid". A stupid thing is getting drunk and getting in a fight. Wearing a Nazi outfit in public is heinous. Most human beings don't do heinous things.
Okay, he is VERY stupid then. I am sure that out of six billion people in this world there would be at least one who would do a thing like this one just out of stupidity and ignorance alone.
This one turned out to be Prince Harry.
And thanks for the elaboration, box 
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:23 am |
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Box
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makeshift_wings wrote: Whew. This conversation has veered off quite incredibly. 
Well, no, it hasn't, since Harry is still the topic. Em, yes, thanks for the correction. I did say 'stupid things', and not 'heinous things'. I just read my post, and you were correct.
I *heart* make_shift. [insert heart]
btw, I think this is in part receiving coverage because of his close relationship to the Queen, his father, the future King, and his brother, also a future King.
The monarch in Britain is the head of the Church of England, so he/she is expected to maintain a high moral standard.
Edit: Haha, I misspelled 'correction' 
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:26 am |
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Neostorm
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I think that the fact that he did such a stupid thing, is showing me that Britain is not doing their job in teaching their citizens about history. I agree with some article on yahoo stating that "- A leading Jewish rights group demanded on Thursday that Britain's Prince Harry go to Auschwitz to atone for wearing a Nazi uniform at a party just two weeks before the 60th anniversary of the death camp's liberation. "
Mabe he'll learn something then.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:40 am |
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Bodrul
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neostorm wrote: I think that the fact that he did such a stupid thing, is showing me that Britain is not doing their job in teaching their citizens about history.
What??? You cant really use one person to account for the whole country.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:50 am |
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Neostorm
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hans wrote: neostorm wrote: I think that the fact that he did such a stupid thing, is showing me that Britain is not doing their job in teaching their citizens about history. What???
Sry if i'm confusing and that i generalized. I just woke up ](*,)
If Britain taught their royals 5% of what i have learned in Canada about Britain and Germany in WWII, Harry would never have done this. Or if Harry listened to 5% of what was taught...  He did pass high school meanin that he should've learned somehting but.. #-o God no wonder he needs to cheat in school. [-X
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:52 am |
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Neostorm
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Hans is the reaction there even worse than abroad?
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:02 am |
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Box
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neostorm wrote: If Britain taught their royals 5% of what i have learned in Canada about Britain and Germany in WWII, Harry would never have done this.
oh, Canada's education system sure was good enough to keep people away from drawing a swastika in Sidney Smith Hall, eh?
Read some of the messages on Yahoo if you want North America's reaction:
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Ignorance does not rely as much on education as you think; it is prevalent everywhere, not least among those in academics.
Btw, Harry is absolutely not obliged to visist Auschwitz. Those groups are forcing about a connection that is not there.
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Bodrul
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neostorm wrote: Hans is the reaction there even worse than abroad?
It is the news headline still. It looks as if some people are brushing it off and some are more angered by it
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:52 am |
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wertham
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So when Harry wears a Nazi uniform at a private party amongst friends, it's in bad taste...
but when the cast of The Producers does it, it's perfectly fine?
(Incredibly profitable, in fact.)
Harry may very well be an idiot, but he's not the only one.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:56 am |
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lovemerox
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Regardless of who did this, it showed very bad taste and was an awful publicity stunt. FUckin asshole
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Ahmed Johnson
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hans wrote: Damn, how low can this guy sink. Hes already the embarrassment of the royal family
The whole bunch of them are an embarassment
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Ahmed Johnson
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box_2005 wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: It's not that I doubt that people of high stature can be ignorant, it's that they shouldn't be. Not when that many people look up to you.
Well, after this, there'll be fewer people looking up to him. I mean, there's still his brother. He seems somewhat ok. And if not him, well, we all still have Britney Spears 
Both royal princes hunt innocent wild animals...
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Bodrul
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: hans wrote: Damn, how low can this guy sink. Hes already the embarrassment of the royal family The whole bunch of them are an embarassment
[-X  :wink:
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Ahmed Johnson
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hans wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote: hans wrote: Damn, how low can this guy sink. Hes already the embarrassment of the royal family The whole bunch of them are an embarassment [-X  :wink:
 :mrgreen:
They are!
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:15 pm |
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Citizen Klown
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You can quote me:
"not his finest moment"
This proves the old proverb that you can't teach common sense, he is well educated, they are very rich, he never has to work a day in his life, there really is no excuse other than he's just a f***ng idiot.
The boy who would be king ......
(if the old bat ever dies)
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