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Mister Ecks
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 The KJ Television Awards: Discussion time, again!
Well, we are three weeks away (thereabouts) until the end of the television season, which means it's time to hold the 6th Annual Excellence in Television Awards (aka The KJ Television Awards). The concept is as simple as always: nominate some of your favorite shows in various categories, vote for a winner in each category, and I'll announce the winners on a date to be determined later on.
But, it's still very early. So, I'm going to open the thread for discussion. Last year, we all seemed to agree (or maybe I just set a list of categories) on which categories we would use, but if there are any changes you'd like to make to the categories, now's the time to do it. To refresh your memories, here is the list:
Excellence in a Single Episode, Comedy ÂÂ
Excellence in a Single Episode, Drama ÂÂ
Excellence in an Opening Sequence ÂÂ
Excellence in Gameplay, Reality/Game Show Contestant  ÂÂ
Excellence in a Special Episode, Series or Season Finale
Excellence in a Talk Show
Excellence in a Guest Star, Drama or Comedy
Excellence in a Reality/Game Show  Excellence in An Animated Series ÂÂ
Excellence in a Supporting Role, Actor in a Comedy ÂÂ
Excellence in a Supporting Role, Actor in a Drama
Excellence in a Supporting Role, Actress in a Comedy
Excellence in a Supporting Role, Actress in a Drama
Excellence in Classic Television: The Excellence in TV Awards Hall of Fame Inductees
Excellence in a Lead Role, Actress in a Comedy
Excellence in a Lead Role, Actress in a Drama
Excellence in a Lead Role, Actor in a Comedy
Excellence in a Lead Role, Actor in a Drama
Excellence in a Dramatic Series
Excellence in a Comedy Series
Last year, I went with 6-to-8 nominees per category, but I think I'll try to make sure it's 6 per category this year, with 7 or 8 for possible ties.
Plus, there's the "Hall of Fame" category, where you nominate shows that have been off the air since, at the latest, May 2006. I'll post the past winners for all categories in the near future.
Until then, feel free to discuss!
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Raffiki
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I think those 20 categories are pitch perfect. No more, no less!
I really can't wait. To tell you the (dorky) truth... I'm more excited about these awards than the Emmys. 
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Tue May 08, 2007 7:54 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Raffiki wrote: I think those 20 categories are pitch perfect. No more, no less! I really can't wait. To tell you the (dorky) truth... I'm more excited about these awards than the Emmys. 
Well, if history is any indication, you have plenty of reasons to like these awards moreso than the Emmys.
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Tue May 08, 2007 7:59 pm |
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Raffiki
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The underdogs I'm gonna take upon myself to get nominated and win this year are...
Elizabeth Perkins for Supporting Actress in Weeds (any competition?? Amanda from Betty maybe?)
Rachel Griffiths and the woman who plays Holly on Brothers and Sisters from Supporting Actress in a Drama

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Tue May 08, 2007 8:14 pm |
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roo
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 Re: The KJ Television Awards: Discussion time, again!
Mr. X wrote: Last year, I went with 6-to-8 nominees per category, but I think I'll try to make sure it's 6 per category this year, with 7 or 8 for possible ties.
No. Make it 5.
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:32 pm |
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Dkmuto
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andaroo.temp wrote: Mr. X wrote: Last year, I went with 6-to-8 nominees per category, but I think I'll try to make sure it's 6 per category this year, with 7 or 8 for possible ties. No. Make it 5.
Yeah, I kinda agree. 5. And then maybe, if necessary because of ties, 6 or 7.
I feel like 6-8 in every category is a little much.
I don't know, though. Whatever you guys want.
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:37 pm |
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Libs
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I think a good idea would be having 5 nominees, and then (since some categories are really really stacked, like Best Supporting Actress in a Drama) you could have some sort of "non-category" listing the two or three other people who didn't quite make the top 5, to make everyone happy.
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:45 pm |
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trixster
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I agree with 5 nominees/category, and you could also do a sort of "Most Overlooked", to be picked after the nominations, of the shows that didn't get anything.
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:52 pm |
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A. G.
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I think you definitely need a best ensemble for both comedy and drama.
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:57 pm |
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Raffiki
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trixster wrote: I agree with 5 nominees/category, and you could also do a sort of "Most Overlooked", to be picked after the nominations, of the shows that didn't get anything.
I think that's a great idea.
I kind of liked the 6 nominees but I guess 5 is what everyone seems to think is better!
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:57 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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5 sounds good to me! 5 it is.
What about Tony's suggestion for "Best Ensemble"? You guys want it, or do you feel the acting categories and "Best Comedy/Drama" cover everything?
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Tue May 08, 2007 9:13 pm |
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Libs
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Mr. X wrote: 5 sounds good to me! 5 it is.
What about Tony's suggestion for "Best Ensemble"? You guys want it, or do you feel the acting categories and "Best Comedy/Drama" cover everything?
No I like Best Ensemble
Like, I would nominate Heroes for Best Ensemble, even though there's probably only one or two actors I would throw individual noms to.
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Tue May 08, 2007 9:21 pm |
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jujubee
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Yay! The only awards show that really matters!
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Tue May 08, 2007 10:09 pm |
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Raffiki
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Yeah... I guess no one would really mind the ensemble idea. I think the Emmys actually have an ensemble cast award too... or maybe that's best ensemble casting (?)
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Wed May 09, 2007 12:40 am |
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Box
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Yay!
Mr. X, I'm going to vote this time, and I'll help promote the awards too 
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:23 am |
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Chippy
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Scrubs for all categories.
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:27 am |
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jujubee
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Raffiki wrote: Yeah... I guess no one would really mind the ensemble idea. I think the Emmys actually have an ensemble cast award too... or maybe that's best ensemble casting (?)
I don't think they do. Golden Globes does.
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Wed May 09, 2007 7:44 am |
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Mister Ecks
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I think it's the Screen Actor's Guild.
So, should I do Best Ensemble for Comedy and Drama combined, or individually? And, should I eliminate two other awards to make it an even 20, or are you guys and girls fine with 22?
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Wed May 09, 2007 7:54 am |
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jujubee
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Mr. X wrote: I think it's the Screen Actor's Guild.
So, should I do Best Ensemble for Comedy and Drama combined, or individually? And, should I eliminate two other awards to make it an even 20, or are you guys and girls fine with 22?
Ah, yes, you are correct.
I think they should be combined. And if you want to keep it at 20, get rid of reality show contestant.
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Magic Mike
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Mr. X wrote: I think it's the Screen Actor's Guild.
So, should I do Best Ensemble for Comedy and Drama combined, or individually? And, should I eliminate two other awards to make it an even 20, or are you guys and girls fine with 22?
I think they should definitely be combined. It would be too hard to think of many for them individually. And I second getting rid of the reality show contestants category.
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Wed May 09, 2007 12:12 pm |
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Raffiki
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Mike wrote: Mr. X wrote: I think it's the Screen Actor's Guild.
So, should I do Best Ensemble for Comedy and Drama combined, or individually? And, should I eliminate two other awards to make it an even 20, or are you guys and girls fine with 22? I think they should definitely be combined. It would be too hard to think of many for them individually. And I second getting rid of the reality show contestants category.
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:11 pm |
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Christian
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jujubee wrote: Raffiki wrote: Yeah... I guess no one would really mind the ensemble idea. I think the Emmys actually have an ensemble cast award too... or maybe that's best ensemble casting (?) I don't think they do. Golden Globes does.
The Emmys have Outstanding Casting for Drama and Outstanding Casting for a Comedy.
They honor the casting agents.
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:13 pm |
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Raffiki
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jujubee wrote: Raffiki wrote: Yeah... I guess no one would really mind the ensemble idea. I think the Emmys actually have an ensemble cast award too... or maybe that's best ensemble casting (?) I don't think they do. Golden Globes does.
I just checked a pdf of the full list of nominees last year...
There are categories called: Outstanding Casting for a Comedy Series and Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series
the nominees in 2006 were... (winners in bold)
Outstanding Casting for a Comedy Series
The Comeback
Curb your Enthusiasm
Entourage
Desperate Housewives
Weeds
My Name is Earl
Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series
Big Love
Boston Legal
Grey's Anatomy
House
Lost
I don't exactly understand what that category means though. It's not for acting, so is it for how well the chosen actors look in the show? 
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:20 pm |
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Christian
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Pretty much. It's the casting agents' award.
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:25 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Reality show contestant does seem useless nowadays. The contestants hardly generate any major popularity anymore.
I was hoping you guys would go for combined Best Ensemble.
So... in a nutshell:
-Excellence in Gameplay (Reality/Game Show Contestant) is out.
-Excellence in an Ensemble (Drama/Comedy) is in.
Sound good? Any more suggestions? You guys can also start pimping out your faves whenever you like. Voting won't start till close to the end of May.
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