There are three shows that all concern an alien invasion/lifeform of some kind or another. Which one interests you the most? Also, which, if any, do you think will be canceled?

Threshold (CBS)
Invasion (ABC)
Surface (NBC)

I'm interested in all three a little but probably most interested in "Invasion" and Threshold (Carla Gugino's in it). However, I predict that either Threshold or Surface will not make it the entire season.

Invasions pilot was rather dissapointing. And isn't Surface about Sea Monsters?

I hear Invasion is good, but I also want to check out Threshold. Surface is a show that looks exactly like all the other shows and has a lead actress who seems to bounce from show to show. Think I can skip it.

Aliens are suddenly "in".

I've said it before....

But what the heck.

Lake Bell is a scary woman.

Invasion is likely to get some big buzz ; as sick as this sounds - from Hurricane Katrina.
Countries develop morbid fascinations with things on this scale and with Invasions pilot involving a destructive hurricane - its timing is either going to be its making or undoing.

The thing thats similar about all these shows is that they are marketing them with the Lost ethics.

But i doubt any will touch Lost.

Surface cant last and Threshold is certainly too young for CBS.

Chances of Survival

1. Invasion [pretty good]
2. Surface [unlikely]
3. Threshold [midseason axe possible]

Looks like Threshold is probobly not going to be hanging around for too long, its debut of 8.6m viewers was no bragging right.

Surface could last a whole season - but only because NBC's schedule sucks ass right now; its ratings were strictly mediocre pulling in just under 11 Million viewers for its debut.

Meanwhile i maintain that Invasion is likely to pike the most interest; and when its premiere ratings come in i think well be seeing 15-18 Million viewers.

Threshold being stuck on Friday nights has alot to do with its ratings, which were still significantly higher than those of "Joan of Arcadia" and "Hack", two other Friday shows on CBS. If it can maintain the ratings it could stick around the entire season just because nothing else is likely to do too much better on Fridays.

I think it's a given that "Invasion" will get the highest ratings of the three, largely because it has "Lost" as a lead-in. On its own, it probably wouldn't manage ratings too much higher than what "Surface" received.

Joe' theres no WAY its going to maintain that Friday momentum. The other networks are still largely in friday repeats when Threshold debuted. Its start was weak and due to mixed reaction and the premiere onslaught on the way - i think over the next few weeks it will experience sharp declines.

What other shows does it have to go up against? "Killer Instinct" on Fox? That show looks semi-interesting but I don't think it'll last the entire season. What does ABC run on Fridays (Is it still the TGIF thing)? It will decline (that's a given - all shows generally do) but it still may last through the season.

I rather enjoyed Threshold. It has some rough patches, but there's potential and I'm gonna stick around. That said, the show probably won't.

Surface is horrible. So look for it to have a juicy spot on the prime-time lineup for the next, oh, 7 years or so.

I said 15-18m for Invasion and it pulled 16.88 so yay for me! Partay! I dont care.

Surface's ratings were very mediocre. Invasion performed worse than Alias did in the post-lost Timeslot and slid in its second half. Threshold is still the most likely of the three to go. Invasion will probobly last the season.

The ratings for all three leave something to be desired. Maybe people have realized the influx of similar-themed shows and decided that they're derivative and thus not worth watching.

I wouldn't say Invasions ratings are bad to be honest; i mean we are all comparing it to Alias and saying it did worse than that so it must be weakly rated but to be honest Alias was very VERY impressive last year in its debut.
Invasions start is really quite strong and with nearly 17 Million viewers its a hit that ABC would have given an arm and a leg for 2 years ago.

We really won't be able to tell until week 2. It may suffer a drop-off more precipitous than expected.

Okay, since all three shows in question have had a few weeks of episodes, it's time for you to rank them. Which one is your favorite, if any?

1. Threshold - This CBS show has surprisingly deft writing to go along with a great cast. It's my favorite new show of the season. Grade: B+

2. Surface - Suffers from some moments of cheesiness but still manages to provide an entertaining hour of TV. It has so many subplots it never becomes dull for one second and has actually become one of my favorite new shows despite harboring trepidation as to how long they can draw the premise out. Grade: B

3. Invasion - Dull, laborious, poorly written, and abominably acted, this show is by far the worst of the three. If it weren't for "Head Cases" and "Related", it would rank as the worst new show of the season. Grade: D-

Invasion's fall off is alarming.
Surface is doing realitvely well. ish.
But has Threshold not been cancelled?

Nope, all signs point to "Threshold" getting a full season according to the Programming Insider.

I'd say all get full season renewals, but only Invasion makes it to a second season, but is shipped off to Thursdays to die (Doesn't matter what time, as all the shows there will be dead ).

All things considered, Surface is the most entertaining show of the three. Too much slo-mo during Invasion and Threshold tries too hard to be hip.

Why? Haven't its ratings been like 8 mil an episode?

I'd actually contest that Surface is the surest bet for a second season. Invasion has been really, really unimpressive in the post-lost hour so far.

On a Friday. And unlike just about every single show this season (Except CiC), it has held onto almost it's entire premiere audeince, losing only 400,000 viewers from week 1 to 4.



Invasion's rendition out of Lost has been crappy, but if ABC determined the fate of their shows on rendition rates, Boston Legal wouldn't have survived November sweeps. And it's still #1 in ti's timeslot among Adults 18-49.

I think ABC will stick with it for the rest of the season, then dump it in season two, ala The Agency (Porrible renditions out of CSI during the '01-'02 season, shipped off to Saturdays next season).

Oh, and Suface's numbers have recovered from that horrid second week drop, so considering the craptaculer state of NBC, it could make it to a second season.

Think of it like this Jon; Invasion is falling in such a way that its already behind Alias. It could fall so far that in a few weeks; when American Idol would have started up against Alias; that Alias might still be doing better numbers in the jan-march season than Invasion in the post lost slot even though it was against American Idol.

Sounds unclear but you know what i mean. If invasions doing 8/9 million an episode in the 10pm hour with a now even bigger Lost leading it in and no American Idol excuse - then thats pretty pathetic for such a heavily marketed new show.

By March, Alias was getting about 10-11M viewers with Lost, 8-9M without it. I think Invasion will level off at about 10-11M viewers, which will still make one of the Top 5 new shows of the season.

I see one of three things happening:

1) ABC renews it for a second season, but ships it off to to some deathslot where it dies a quiet death ala The Agency Post-CSI on CBS.

2) ABC renews it for a full season, ships it off to some deathslot at midseason and puts a Midseason drama on after Lost, ala BL/GA on ABC.

3) ABC renews it, keeps it after Lost and cancels it after one season, ala most of the Post-Friends comedies on NBC.