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As of this moment, regarding feeds, it looks like Erika will nominate Janelle and George (what a shocker... not). Will will be the replacement nominee if one of them wins veto.

Looks like I have to pray once again that Janelle wins the POV. And this time it looks like she is utterly alone. She won't have George to help her, since he'll also be nominated and will have to win for himself. Woogie probably won't help her, since one of them would go up in her place. Erika won't help her, since she would want to keep her nominees the same (I think?). Danielle may be the only possible help if Danielle wants to get rid of a Chilltown member, like she said. But I don't know.

If Janelle doesn't win the POV, I would love to see Chilltown vote to evict George (to keep Janelle as a target in the house). Only 3 vote (Woogie and Danielle), so Woogie would secure her safety.

So, things can play out in a bunch of different ways this week, possibly. My hunch is that Janelle NEEDS the POV.

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Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:45 pm
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Archie Gates wrote:
What do they do all day? Other than conspire and eat and the obvious daily routines.

Watch dvds and listen to music or something? I assume they can't have contact with the outside world.


Basicly nothing. They lay around a lot.


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Archie Gates wrote:
What do they do all day? Other than conspire and eat and the obvious daily routines.

Watch dvds and listen to music or something? I assume they can't have contact with the outside world.


No contact whatsoever. The only time the houseguests got notice on outside news was in 2001 when 9/11 happened, it was Big Brother 2 happening then. They felt the news was big and serious enough to warrant telling the houseguests.

The houseguests have been really "tortured" this season. In previous, earlier seasons they could win stuff or would get some basic things, like a trampoline or a basketball net and such. But this seaso they get practically nothing. A deck of cards and a checkers board are the only things they have to "play". Otherwise, they lounge around, eat, strategize and sleep 24/7.

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They can work out too, but I'm sure that gets old.


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Looks like I was wrong....

6:09 BBT: Boogie and Will talking about possibility of Janelle being nominated against George. Boogie says "We gotta get her this veto. I'm totally trusting you."

6:20 BBT: Boogie, Will, and Janelle whispering in bathroom - says it will be the three of them and CG playing in next week's HOH.

I just realized that I'm wrong about the votes. If Janelle wins veto, and Will is put up, Chicken George would go, since both Janelle and Boogie would vote to evict George, and only 3 people vote this week. But I think they want to convince Erika to put up Danielle is Janelle wins veto.

It shocks me that Boogie is talking to Will alone about still saving Janelle, because it's usually Will saying that stuff and Boogie being sceptical. Looks like they still want Janelle in as the big target, because once Janelle's gone, Woogie is THE target in the house.

Here's hoping Janelle can win her FOURTH veto.

I also just realized that if noms stay the same, Woogie holds the vote. So, they could vote to save Janelle if they wanted to.

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Erika's ugly HOH room:

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Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:22 pm
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Someone said something intriguing in a online episode of a show called House Calls that I saw, about this game. They said that when Will won BB a few years ago, it was because people didn't use their chance to get rid of him, they knew he was a very strong player but kept thinking they could always get rid of him later and before they knew it he won. And that maybe Will and Boogie are making that same sort of mistake with respect to Janelle, makes sense to me. Janelle is a shark, they should just get rid of her, I know the reasons not to, that people would then focus on Will and Mike but still, if they don't get rid of her she could well end up winning. She'll find a way, or come as close as possible.

Will seemd to show some naivete when he said that she was so down and he was going to build her back up. As she said, she was acting. That was the first real sign I've seen since I started watching it of Will making a major miscalcuation of what is going on. He seems to have a weak spot for her and she'll use it if given a chance.


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That's true, but at the same time they're aware that Erika and Danielle are gunning for her. With Will in season two, it was pretty much the entire house that was giving him the free pass.


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It's initiation day into Chilltown for Janelle! Will and Janelle just revealed that they did a "Chilltown style phone call" in the Diary Room!! Damn, they better show that on TV!

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Danielle is BEGGING Erika to talk to George. She says he needs to be "micromanaged"... (this is the part I do not like about Danielle. Overall, she's awesome, I love her, but there's this part of her that is always like "everyone must tell me everything, I must know what everyone is thinking, everyone has to be managed - talking down to people type of thing).

Anyhow, Erika wants to put up Janelle and George, but Danielle is for some reason convinced that George would use the POV on Janelle if he won it, despite him being on the block too. She thinks George would rather save Janelle, because she thinks George is trying to be the nice guy, and knows that Janelle is America's sweetheart. Erika says that George wants to be here, he would use it on himself.

Interesting. I never thought of George using the veto on Janelle if he won it. I figured George would just use it on himself, like normal people do. I still think he would use it on himself, but Danielle is paranoid.

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I wouldn't put anything past George, honestly. Especially if Chilltown "talks" to him. :unsure:


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Even if Janelle was on the block against George, I doubt she would be evicted because Will and Boogie would vote to evict Chicken Man.

So it looks like Janelle will probably make it yet another week. She has impressive stamina, I'll say that much for her. And she's far enough by now that I think certain people (like Danielle) are going to want her to stay so they can take her to the final two.

I still think Danielle may be in the best position at the moment. C-Town (I still refuse to type it out) doesn't seem immediately concerned with her.


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One thing I wonder about the live feeds is if they say or imply that the Big Brother show does Janelle's makeup and hair for her. I don't see the other women contestants getting all glammed up each week like she does, they all look like they just rolled out of bed.


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Archie Gates wrote:
One thing I wonder about the live feeds is if they say or imply that the Big Brother show does Janelle's makeup and hair for her. I don't see the other women contestants getting all glammed up each week like she does, they all look like they just rolled out of bed.


All of them get glammed up for the live show, they always do.


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The thing about Janelle is that she NEEDS to not be on the block Thursday. I honestly would not put it past BB to not have a live vote, and just send the two nominees packing. Unfair? Yes. But when has BB been fair?

Anyway, part of me thinks Janelle threw the HOH (those were the easiest questions ever, come on!!). She knows she's safe if put up. George, Will and Mike Boogie would likely vote to keep her (for now... this game changes on a dime, as we all know). Rather than win HOH, and sacrifice next week's HOH (assuming she still wouldn't be able to play, being the outgoing HOH and all), she will likely play hard for next week's HOH, and possible be eligible to compete for the following week's HOH as well.

But, don't take my word on that. I don't know exactly when outgoing HOHs can compete for the following HOH. Maybe it's only final three.

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Wow, anyone see the latest Love 'Em or Leave 'Em results? Howie took a big jump up (from 4.something to 8.5). Mike and Will took a drop. Janelle went up a bit. And the big winner? Kaysar. Went up like 11 points.

Pretty good for a guy who hasn't played the game since his first HOH in BB6.

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The outgoing final 4 HOH can play in the final one. That is how it is usually, but who knows with this short HOH stint that is probably going to occur Thursday. Maybe the outgoing HOH will be allowed to play since they will get such a short run.

It's pretty awesome that Janelle will likely make it through this eviction seeing that she has been a target for practically the entire game.


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I didn't realize it, but I guess two evictions means they'll do live eviction, HOH, nominations, veto comp, veto ceremony, live vote and eviction all in one show, right? Is that what's going to happen? I thought there might be a chance that both nominees this week would be evicted, but I guess Julie would have said that.

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Well, she said it will be an "action packed" show so that is the best bet.


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Well, she said it will be an "action packed" show so that is the best bet.


Great. Awesome. I'm glad they got some excitement, coming into the home stretch of All-Stars.

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If Erika wants to rid the house of Janelle, she needs to put her up against Will or Mike. Therefore, the un-nominated CT member will have no choice but to vote her out, and she'll be toast.


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The houseguests had another food competition.

It looks like they won a 1 week slop pass for CG, a trampoline, and as a house, they won slop for a couple of days of the week (friday and tuesday) and only meat and alcohol for the rest of the days (missed out on desserts, dairy, bread and cereal). But Will is really happy they won the trampoline.

Apparently the trampoline is only there until tuesday (so they don't get to keep it forever) and they had to lose the Red Room in exchange for the tramp, it seems. George is worried he will have no place to sleep for his snoring to not bug others now.

Will and Boogie had to dress up as Bee's, Janelle and Danielle had to dress up as birds, and Erika and George as flowers (some hilarious screen caps out there). Something about birds having to collect necter from the flowers and the bees doing something. I don't know.

In terms of gameplay, Will is working Erika to put up Danielle instead of Janelle, and to get rid of Danielle first and then Janelle. Talks about how Danielle made a truce with Janelle, Danielle is dangerous, she has an alliance with everyone in the house but CG. Erika says "I love her, but she has to go", however Erika still wants to go after Janelle first, it seems. Will still trying to work his magic.

Boogie and Will still talking to eachother about saving Janelle. They were talking about Erika's nominations. Will trying to get Boogie to convince Erika not to put up Janelle. Boogie is saying that's not possible. They are also talking about how Janelle has to win POV. Boogie asks Will if Janelle does not win POV, do they just go kamazaki and vote out George. Will says that is a possibility. Boogie brings up a "balls out move" he calls it: Win the POV and save Janelle themselves.

Danielle still scared of Chicken George, she is frustrated that George holds his cards close. She wants to know what he's thinking. Danielle and Erika still wondering why Janelle voted to evict James. They are confused, don't get it, why would Janelle vote out James they ask themselves. Erika says she will put up Will or Boogie if George or Janelle wins the POV. Erika and Danielle really don't want Janelle to win the POV.

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Janelle and George:

J - I think that all along that James and Danielle were working together; that every time James went on the block he knew he was safe.
J - When Danielle shut the door of the HOH room I saw her give the Final 2 signal to James but they didn't know I saw that.

J - He was alwasy safe, on the prize veto comp he took the prizes 'cause he knew he was safe.
CG - Wow, I couldn't figure that out.
J - Well I did
CG - Ohhhh, I get it now, that's why he took the phone call and marg. party
J - 'Cause he never asked for votes and didn't act nervous
CG - That makes sense now - goes and gets more food.
J - Goes to bathroom, comes back
J - That's why I wanted James to leave, he just wasn't trustworthy
CG - He always said he would do whatever he had to do to stay in the game
J - He was really shady.
CG - ha ha ha i like the way you put that
J - I liked him, but damn
J - He was nervous all the time, I could tell he was lying


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Official nominations (nom ceremony just finished):

Janelle and Chicken George

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Janelle definitely needs Veto. It's still six days from eviction. We know Chilltown's minds can change ON A DIME.

I have to say that going into this season, I HATED Mike Boogie. I still hated him for a long time. But lately, I'm starting to be okay with him. He is far from my favorite, but he's not the obnoxious asshole that I remember from BB2. I know Libs will hate me for liking Mike, but he's not so bad. He's matured a bit (just a bit) in five years.

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