Big Brother Allstars Spoiler Thread: Feeds, Etc.
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Cotton
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She might throw James a sympathy vote, since he'll be on the jury.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:56 pm |
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O
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Cotton wrote: She might throw James a sympathy vote, since he'll be on the jury.
If she didn't throw Marcellas a sympathy vote (who got voted out 6-0), I don't think she will for James either.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:24 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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O wrote: Cotton wrote: She might throw James a sympathy vote, since he'll be on the jury. If she didn't throw Marcellas a sympathy vote (who got voted out 6-0), I don't think she will for James either.
That would be fairly difficult, considering she was HOH and couldn't vote at the time.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:29 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Mr. X wrote: O wrote: Cotton wrote: She might throw James a sympathy vote, since he'll be on the jury. If she didn't throw Marcellas a sympathy vote (who got voted out 6-0), I don't think she will for James either. That would be fairly difficult, considering she was HOH and couldn't vote at the time.
They're talking about Danielle.
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:42 pm |
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O
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There's a growing split happening between Will and Mike. Will wants Erika out, and to keep Janelle. Mike insists on keeping Erika, and getting out Janelle. Mike insists that Erika is an upstanding girl. Will knows that Janelle is with him now, and I dont see Will going out of his way to keep Erika around. But this new development should be interesting...
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:11 pm |
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MikeQ.
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This will be the one week where I believe either George or James could go. I could honestly seeing the votes going either way, and different people changing their minds back and forth. I think it's because Woogie is in power, and Woogie is so unpredictable, and will often send out cryptic messages, or play for the camera, or actually be sincere. The thursday episode will actually have a real buildup for me. In previous weeks, it's always been obvious who is going and who is playing who to know who will get voted out (wishful thinking doesn't count).
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:22 pm |
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MikeQ. wrote: This will be the one week where I believe either George or James could go. I could honestly seeing the votes going either way, and different people changing their minds back and forth. I think it's because Woogie is in power, and Woogie is so unpredictable, and will often send out cryptic messages, or play for the camera, or actually be sincere. The thursday episode will actually have a real buildup for me. In previous weeks, it's always been obvious who is going and who is playing who to know who will get voted out (wishful thinking doesn't count).
PEACE, Mike.
If the HG's, vote out CG over James, they really are idiots. The house has gone 1/6 in terms of voting out competitive players (only one I really think would have been big in this game was Jase), if CG goes, they are 1/7. Leaving a house with James, Janelle, Danielle, Erika, and Will, in the final 6, would be absolutely stupid on the hg's part. They need to get James out, and keep CG around. These hg's haven't delivered on getting real competitors out, because they've been so fixated on things (BB6: getting out floaters, everyone else: getting out Janelle and if not going for weaker players whom wont really make a difference anyway).
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:30 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Yeah, I agree Omar. I guess I just wouldn't be surprised to see anybody flip and change their vote at any time. I am though pretty convinced that James will go. The live feeds show that Will is not slowing down.. He is still working to get rid of James. He got Boogie to agree to talk to Danielle tonight, and tell her they saw James talking with Janelle, and that they need to get James out because he's with her, they can't trust him. Danielle just needs some persuasion, because she has admitted countless times she doesn't completely trust James. Meanwhile, I'm totally convinced Erika will vote to evict James. Erika has CG liking her, and she wants him in here still, because he is easy to beat, and chances are George would try and save Erika if she were up against Woogie or something. George was the best person to put up beside James to get Erika to want James out. And Will so obviously wants James out, I'm amazed Will even convinces James when he speaks. When James starts trying to talk strategy with Will, Will is so unenthusiastic in his discussion. I think part of it is that James thinks he the new "Evil Will", and Will hates it. That, and James continues to badmouth Janelle and talk about BB cheating and stuff (and annoys all the houseguests still).
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:50 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Will just told George that he should have no worries for this week.
Will is speaking to everyone as if James is leaving or James is his target, except for James himself. So, I'm hoping that pretty much means James is gone.
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:22 pm |
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Cotton
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Of course James will be leaving.
The only person who has a motive for keeping him in the house is Danielle, and she'll probably still vote against him just so she doesn't alienate the house.
Janelle still might feel some loyalty towards him, but it SHOULD be overridden by the fact that he's tried to evict her so many times.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:32 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Yep, now I feel like James is dead.
Erika overheard James' conversation with Janelle, and Erika was talking about how before she thought that James for sure was going after Janelle, but now she is completely suspicious (not that she wasn't already). She still emphasizes how George is someone she can beat in the game, someone who she should keep. It helps herself. Danielle tells here "you gotta do what you gotta do" (Danielle says that phrase and "it is what it is" a LOT.. holy).
And the big one is this, as I see it: When Janelle told Will that Danielle had come to her asking for a 1 week truce, Will questioned whether Janelle was lying. He didn't believe that Danielle would do this, and he questioned it with Boogie, them alone together. But then Danielle told Will that she did that, but had only said she would make sure her (Janelles) key comes out of that box, and so she left a loophole, and could backdoor Janelle without technically breaking her promise or whatever (because of Danielle's wording). Then when Will and Janelle were walking laps in the back yard later tonight (they, Will and Janelle, do this every night now it seems - Janelle got him hooked) Will apologized to Janelle for not believing her when she told him, and then spilled to her about Danielle's plan to backdoor her, and that the "truce" was a fraud! Never have I seen Will let someone in on the 'big picture' that much. Usually he let's everyone come to him and tell them their stuff, and he will keep it to himself.
Anyways, I thought this was interesting.
PEACE, Mike.
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:01 am |
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Cotton
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MikeQ. wrote: And the big one is this, as I see it: When Janelle told Will that Danielle had come to her asking for a 1 week truce, Will questioned whether Janelle was lying. He didn't believe that Danielle would do this, and he questioned it with Boogie, them alone together. But then Danielle told Will that she did that, but had only said she would make sure her (Janelles) key comes out of that box, and so she left a loophole, and could backdoor Janelle without technically breaking her promise or whatever (because of Danielle's wording). Then when Will and Janelle were walking laps in the back yard later tonight (they, Will and Janelle, do this every night now it seems - Janelle got him hooked) Will apologized to Janelle for not believing her when she told him, and then spilled to her about Danielle's plan to backdoor her, and that the "truce" was a fraud! Never have I seen Will let someone in on the 'big picture' that much. Usually he let's everyone come to him and tell them their stuff, and he will keep it to himself.
Anyways, I thought this was interesting.
PEACE, Mike.
That is interesting and it also reminds me of the time he helped James rig the POV so Danielle could take herself off the block. Will has NEVER looked out for anyone in the game besides himself, so seeing him go out of his way for Janelle and Dani makes me wonder if there's some kind of ulterior motive.
My best guess is that it would work in his favor if Dani and Janelle keep trying to knock each other out of the game. By making sure Danielle won the veto (so she could stay and battle Janelle) and spilling the beans to Janelle about Danielle's plan (to thwart the truce), it would ensure that the conflict continues, and therefore, he's not at the top of anyone's hit list.
That's how I see it at least.
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:02 am |
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O
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Will and Boogie just spoke. Will told Mike that he needs to take Erika to the final 2, as she's the only one he can really beat. So it seems that Erika is preferred to Janelle, and Danielle, and that Will is more looking for a Mike win, than a Will win. Janelle NEEDS to get rid of Erika, which would help Janelle's chances at final 2. I think Chilltown would take Janelle over Danielle to the final 2. Janelle would get Howie, James, CG, and possibly Marcellas, while Danielle would get James, Marcellas, Howie, Erika, Mike, and CG. So I think they'll dump Danielle, for Erika or Janelle instead, whom they'd have a better chance at beating in the finals.
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:11 pm |
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A. G.
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O wrote: Will and Boogie just spoke. Will told Mike that he needs to take Erika to the final 2, as she's the only one he can really beat. So it seems that Erika is preferred to Janelle, and Danielle, and that Will is more looking for a Mike win, than a Will win. Janelle NEEDS to get rid of Erika, which would help Janelle's chances at final 2. I think Chilltown would take Janelle over Danielle to the final 2. Janelle would get Howie, James, CG, and possibly Marcellas, while Danielle would get James, Marcellas, Howie, Erika, Mike, and CG. So I think they'll dump Danielle, for Erika or Janelle instead, whom they'd have a better chance at beating in the finals.
Excuse my ignorance but what does the winner actually win? Just wondering like if it's a lump cash sum maybe Will and Mike can strike a deal to split it if one of them wins.
NM I finally found it on a website. 500k
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:02 am |
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Libs
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Archie Gates wrote: O wrote: Will and Boogie just spoke. Will told Mike that he needs to take Erika to the final 2, as she's the only one he can really beat. So it seems that Erika is preferred to Janelle, and Danielle, and that Will is more looking for a Mike win, than a Will win. Janelle NEEDS to get rid of Erika, which would help Janelle's chances at final 2. I think Chilltown would take Janelle over Danielle to the final 2. Janelle would get Howie, James, CG, and possibly Marcellas, while Danielle would get James, Marcellas, Howie, Erika, Mike, and CG. So I think they'll dump Danielle, for Erika or Janelle instead, whom they'd have a better chance at beating in the finals. Excuse my ignorance but what does the winner actually win? Just wondering like if it's a lump cash sum maybe Will and Mike can strike a deal to split it if one of them wins. NM I finally found it on a website. 500k
I get the feeling Will may not be as...interested?...in winning the money as Boogie since he actually won in season 2 (Will was the only previous winner playing this year).
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:17 am |
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Mister Ecks
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Will isn't as smart as I think if he honestly believes Mike Boogie will beat Erika in the finals. There will be way too much bad blood from the evicted houseguests towards Boogie, that they will never vote for him to win in a million years.
Then again, the same argument can be made that they all want a real winner, and not a floater to win. It comes down to "Do we want an asshole to win, or a floater to win?".
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:31 am |
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A. G.
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In episode 19, Erika said something that surprised me. When CG suggested putting Will up on the block, Erika said if you do that I'm doomed, and George said no, that Janelle would want to get rid of Will since he's such a strong player. And then Erika said Janelle is in love with Will, she won't vote him out.
Uhh I never saw any indication of that, other than that silly tub/shower romp thing. So I guess that's some personal thing going on that is not being shown hardly at all to viewers? Seems relevant.
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:00 am |
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Libs
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Archie Gates wrote: In episode 19, Erika said something that surprised me. When CG suggested putting Will up on the block, Erika said if you do that I'm doomed, and George said no, that Janelle would want to get rid of Will since he's such a strong player. And then Erika said Janelle is in love with Will, she won't vote him out.
Uhh I never saw any indication of that, other than that silly tub/shower romp thing. So I guess that's some personal thing going on that is not being shown hardly at all to viewers? Seems relevant.
Janelle and Will flirt all the time, but it's pretty clearly more genuine on her part than his. She's not in love with him though.
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:31 am |
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Mister Ecks
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The Will and Janelle thing is definitely a bigger part of the live feeds.
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:48 am |
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Mister Ecks
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Here's how I see the rest of the game going:
Tonight, James is gone. No need to discuss it further.
Next week, Erika will be evicted. If all this talk of CT looking to evict Erika, even when they're alone, is all a lie, then this will just be pointless. Whether it's Janelle, Danielle or Georgie as HOH, I think Erika is gone.
This week (or next) is where George will surprise everyone with another HOH win, and probably be responsible for Mike Boogie's eviction. I don't think CT and Janelle will be final three. Call me crazy, but I think it will go down like this.
Final Four: George, Danielle, Janelle and Will
After that, I'm just iffy.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:19 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Well, James left the house, but Erika won HOH. Sort of a 50/50 episode for me. I hate Erika so much.
But 2 houseguests leave on Thursday, and I want to know how that works! I hope hope hope Erika doesn't get to evict both. Gosh... And does this mean Erika gets an automatic jump to the top 4? So, as HOH she gets to survive 2 evictions? That gives this weeks HOH a special two week HOH, since they survive two evictions.
But Julie didn't explain anything, so I have no clue how it works.
PEACE, Mike.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:02 pm |
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Chris
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Maybe it's that after this weeks eviction, the HOH is automatically evicted too! Mwahahahaha...Erika getting screwed both times she has HOH. 
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:06 pm |
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Cotton
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MikeQ. wrote: Well, James left the house, but Erika won HOH. Sort of a 50/50 episode for me. I hate Erika so much.
But 2 houseguests leave on Thursday, and I want to know how that works! I hope hope hope Erika doesn't get to evict both. Gosh... And does this mean Erika gets an automatic jump to the top 4? So, as HOH she gets to survive 2 evictions? That gives this weeks HOH a special two week HOH, since they survive two evictions.
But Julie didn't explain anything, so I have no clue how it works.
PEACE, Mike.
I'm guessing the first houseguest will be evicted within the first 20 minutes of the show, then they'll do the HOH competition, do the nominees live, then do the POV, and then vote off the other person.
I'm assuming all of this because Julie said it would be an "action-packed" episode with a lot of competitions or something.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:12 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Cotton wrote: MikeQ. wrote: Well, James left the house, but Erika won HOH. Sort of a 50/50 episode for me. I hate Erika so much.
But 2 houseguests leave on Thursday, and I want to know how that works! I hope hope hope Erika doesn't get to evict both. Gosh... And does this mean Erika gets an automatic jump to the top 4? So, as HOH she gets to survive 2 evictions? That gives this weeks HOH a special two week HOH, since they survive two evictions.
But Julie didn't explain anything, so I have no clue how it works.
PEACE, Mike. I'm guessing the first houseguest will be evicted within the first 20 minutes of the show, then they'll do the HOH competition, do the nominees live, then do the POV, and then vote off the other person. I'm assuming all of this because Julie said it would be an "action-packed" episode with a lot of competitions or something.
Dude, Cotton, you are freaking smart. That makes total sense, especially regarding Julie's "action-packed" statement. It makes sense that that would mean they have to squish in an eviction, a new HOH, nominations, POV and the 2nd eviction.
That would be the best episode in the history of Big Brother, regardless of who wins/goes. Seriously. That's a lot of action.
PEACE, Mike.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:22 pm |
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A. G.
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What do they do all day? Other than conspire and eat and the obvious daily routines.
Watch dvds and listen to music or something? I assume they can't have contact with the outside world.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:43 pm |
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