Big Brother Allstars Spoiler Thread: Feeds, Etc.
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A. G.
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My sense of Janelle, and I know I haven't seen as much of her as you guys, it's just my impression, is that her MO is to remove other women and cling to the most dominant guy she can find. She was devasted when Kaysar left because she had him pegged as the alpha male, and now she's confused about who to get close to.
The reason I picked James to win is that he's one of the smartest there, in a real world sense, not in a game playing sense, and he has one foot in Janelle's camp and one in the Legion, looks like to me anyway. He also, more than Will and Mike seems to realize the threat of Janelle and want her gone.
But at the moment Will and Mike sure seem to be the dominant ones. Mike seems to be a little slyer and meaner than Will so I would say he has a higher chance of survival. Between the two of them, I'd pick Mike to turn on Will before vice versa.
Take it with a grain of salt, from this newbie. 
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:05 pm |
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O
Extraordinary
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So who will win BB?
3rd jury member: I think James is going this week, as James is the person that the hg's want out the most, other than Janelle, and whoever is put up beside him, will probably be safe.
4th jury member: Erika is becoming baggage that could hurt Chilltown immensely, and Danielle, and Janelle, and CG I think are realizing how she doesn't really deserve to be there as much as the others, for how she's been playing the game. I think there may be some sort of olive branch from Danielle to Janelle if James leaves, to team up to get Erika out, and weaken Mike/Will a bit. I think Erika will be going to the jury soon, because she just has way too many ties in the game (ex. Could potentially get Marcellas', Danielle's, Will, Mike, James and CG's votes, so 6/7, that could be the highest of all other players, but she wont get Howie and Janelle's votes for sure).
5th jury member: People will realize that Mike/Will really need to be broken up now, as its a near certainty that they'd take each other to the final 2. Janelle, Danielle, and CG will work to get one of them out. They will lean toward Mike Boogie, since he's close with Erika, and also would think that going to the finals with a previous winner might help their chances, as the jury might be more likely to reward a non-winner.
6th jury member: It will be CG, Janelle, Danielle, and Will left in the game. It could potentially be a CG+Danielle vs Will/Janelle match up. But I think they'll realize that CG is much more well liked than the rest, and thus will need to be voted out. George will go next.
7th jury member: The final jury member will be either Danielle, Will, or Janelle. Danielle will realize that she probably has a stronger chance with Janelle in the final 2, as will Janelle. Danielle will think that she has Marcellas, Erika, James, Mike, Will, CG and James' votes, and not Howie's, so will take Janelle to the final 2 if she is able to. Will, knowing that Janelle was the dominating player in this game, will not want to take her to the final 2, and instead Danielle, whom he thinks with Erika, Mike, Janelle, and Howie's votes (Janelle will convince Howie), that he can win the game against her. Janelle will think that she can win against Danielle, more than Will, but Will will work her into bringing him to the final 2 very hard, but inevitably, she'll take Danielle. Thus, I think that the final 2, will be Janelle and Danielle if everything goes by the plan, as they'll reach a compromise that they want someone who hasn't won the game before to win between the two of them. Thus, Will will be the final jury member.
Winner: It will be Danielle vs Janelle for the win. Janelle has Howie, Danielle has Marcellas I think, Danielle has Mike, Will has Janelle, Danielle has James, and Janelle has CG. The final jury member, Erika, will be the deciding vote. She will vote for Danielle to win.
Thanks for playing prize: Janelle, despite dominating the game, will have lost in the end. But just like Survivor, BB will have viewers vote for their fan favorite winner. Janelle will win this hands down, with Kaysar just behind, and thus, Janelle and Danielle will be winners, with Will a winner too!
Yeah, 99.99% this wont happen, but it would be interesting if it did!
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:26 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
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The contrast between Chicken George and the rest of the house is so funny.
This has got to be the most strategic and complicated game in BB history, and we have some middle-aged guy from Illinois who's just......there. In the house. Doing nothing.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:32 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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I went ahead and gathered past info on all of the houseguests still in the house (HOH and POV's won, when evicted, etc). It's interesting to look back at how each season changed. I just realized there's actually one player from every season still left, except for season 5 (poor season 5).
George, Season 1:
- No HOH or POV this season (America Voted)
- Made it to top 5 (out of 10 total houseguests)
- It wasn't called "nominations" and "eviction", it was called "Marked" and "Banished", heh
- Season was overall a failure in ratings
Will, Season 2:
- Producer changed, game revamped (Made Allison Grodner producer, she still is producer)
- Won 0 HOH
- There was no POV this season
- He was nominated for eviction 4 times, but survived each time and won the game
Mike, Season 2:
- Won 1 HOH
- There was no POV this season
- He was nominated for eviction once, and was evicted
- 4th to be evicted out of 12 houseguests
Danielle, Season 3:
- Won 1 HOH, 1 POV (the veto this year couldn't be used on yourself; only exception was the last veto won, which was a special veto that you could use on yourself. Marcellas won it, but didn't use it on himself, lol)
- Technically never nominated for eviction (was on block in final 3 simply because she didn't win HOH - no "official" nomination process)
- Was Runner-Up
Erika, Season 4:
- Veto name changed to "Golden Power of Veto" because now the veto was allowed to be used on yourself if you won it
- Won 1 HOH, 0 POV
- Was 4th place (out of 13 total houseguests - 8 original, and 5 exes - "The X Factor")
Janelle, Season 6:
- Won 2 HOH, 2 POV
- Nominated for eviction 6 times
>> (2 times pre-veto and post-veto), (2 times pre-veto and then saved by veto), (1 time post-veto only, but survived), (1 time in final 3 - there was no veto, and she was evicted)
- 3rd place out 14 total houseguests
James, Season 6:
- Won 0 HOH, 4 POV
- Nominated for eviction 4 times
>> (3 times pre-veto and then saved by veto), (1 time post-veto only; backdoored and evicted)
- 7th place out of 14 total houseguests[b]
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:33 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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MikeQ. wrote: James, Season 6: - Won 0 HOH, 4 POV - Nominated for eviction 4 times >> (3 times pre-veto and then saved by veto), (1 time post-veto only; backdoored and evicted) - 7th place out of 14 total houseguests[b]
I'm just currious to know if James had ever planned on backdooring someone this time around (or using some other similar method). Because if he did, it would further add to his reputation of being a hypocrite/whinny prick because I remember him bitching about being backdoored last season and how it was a dirty and sleazy way to get rid of someone.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:43 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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MikeQ. wrote: Chris wrote: How many HOHs and POVs did Janelle win last year? Season 6: 2 HOH's and 2 POV's Season 7 (so far): 3 HOH's and 3 POV's PEACE, Mike.
Thanks, Mike. I can't believe Janelle survived 5 evictions last season. I don't remember that.
And thanks for the info on all the houseguests. It's funny that James will likely get 7th place again. Heh.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:50 pm |
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O
Extraordinary
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From bbchatter:
James (complaining about the veto contest to Danielle): "BB is upsetting one of the biggest names in BB history!"
Oh brother...
Also, great quote from Jack on revenge of the hg's, on the cbs site:
"Someone tell Boogie that coup d'etat is not a trailer park in Louisiana."
"James is becalmed in a tiny sailboat on a sea of his own falsehoods. Don't worry James, you're enough of a blowhard to fill up any sail. So blow yourself away."
"Look at the chocolate stains on Will's hands. He's been taking candy away from babies again."
Jack is a great writer on bb happenings!
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:51 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
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O wrote: From bbchatter: James (complaining about the veto contest to Danielle): "BB is upsetting one of the biggest names in BB history!" Oh brother... 
Who, Janelle? No, I'm sure she's fine about it.
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:00 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I think it is absolutely hilarious that the game was just a constant domination for BB6, until CG comes along, wins veto, and changes everyone's gameplans. Then, a few weeks later, as the game is going in one direction with chaos all about, CG wins HOH and changes everyone's gameplans again.
CG is keeping them all on their toes, that's for sure.
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:02 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Wow, Jack wrote those Omar? That's crazy. I've always loved Jack. He must have been the reason why I liked Erika too in their season, because I hate Erika this season.
And guys, check out this video from this season. In all sincerity, poor Nakomis. Really.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2j1kmj24JOA
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:03 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Mr. X wrote: O wrote: From bbchatter: James (complaining about the veto contest to Danielle): "BB is upsetting one of the biggest names in BB history!" Oh brother...  Who, Janelle? No, I'm sure she's fine about it.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:04 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Holy crap, check out this hilarious GIF! The doll is a joke regarding the most recent POV that Janelle won, because James is complaining that Janie took his doll, lol. Hilarious. This is so funny.  I think I've found my new avatar.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:14 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
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I too somehow see the game coming down to Danielle and Janelle. I mean, it's kind of just a feeling I have.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:33 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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MikeQ. wrote: Wow, Jack wrote those Omar? That's crazy. I've always loved Jack. He must have been the reason why I liked Erika too in their season, because I hate Erika this season. And guys, check out this video from this season. In all sincerity, poor Nakomis. Really. http://youtube.com/watch?v=2j1kmj24JOAPEACE, Mike.
Definitely NOT surprised they didn't air that. 
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:34 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Cotton wrote: MikeQ. wrote: Wow, Jack wrote those Omar? That's crazy. I've always loved Jack. He must have been the reason why I liked Erika too in their season, because I hate Erika this season. And guys, check out this video from this season. In all sincerity, poor Nakomis. Really. http://youtube.com/watch?v=2j1kmj24JOAPEACE, Mike. Definitely NOT surprised they didn't air that. 
To clarify, that is from Big Brother 5. I remember the beginning of that meltdown on TV, but I doubt they aired any of that video.
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:56 pm |
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mdana
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Libs wrote: mdana wrote: George is a little creep. Marcellas gave him a slop pass and George still voted him out. George is not the decent, humble guy he pretends to be on the show. He is a chickensh#t. I want to barf everytime he starts into one of his b.s. spiels. Because Marcellas has such a noble, kind heart.
What the fuck does Marcellas's heart have do with George being a dipshit? I wanted to barf when Marcellas talked about his profound moment of enlightenment. Yeah, that is what mosted evicted losers state to rationalize wasting 6 weeks with a bunch of losers.
Seriously, if you had been on the jury for Gary Ridgeway the convicted Green River Killer, would you have pointed out to the other jurors, "Yes, Mr. Ridgeway did murder 50 women, but they were PROSTITUTES"?
If you have two friends who both act attrociosly, it doesn't negate the one's bad acts. I just can't stand George. It may be the way the editors compile the footage, but he is so fake in many of his actions. He also is a major wimp who can't stand up for himself or make good decisions.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:36 pm |
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mdana
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Mr. X wrote: Cotton wrote: MikeQ. wrote: Wow, Jack wrote those Omar? That's crazy. I've always loved Jack. He must have been the reason why I liked Erika too in their season, because I hate Erika this season. And guys, check out this video from this season. In all sincerity, poor Nakomis. Really. http://youtube.com/watch?v=2j1kmj24JOAPEACE, Mike. Definitely NOT surprised they didn't air that.  To clarify, that is from Big Brother 5. I remember the beginning of that meltdown on TV, but I doubt they aired any of that video.
Watching that video, I feel disgusted with myself for watching this show. The producers treat these people like whores and we lap it up. These people are desperate for money/attention and will do just about anything to debase themselves for it.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:38 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
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mdana wrote: Watching that video, I feel disgusted with myself for watching this show. The producers treat these people like whores and we lap it up. These people are desperate for money/attention and will do just about anything to debase themselves for it.
I know.
Isn't it great. 
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:03 pm |
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Christian
Team Kris
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:02 pm Posts: 27584 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Cotton wrote: mdana wrote: Watching that video, I feel disgusted with myself for watching this show. The producers treat these people like whores and we lap it up. These people are desperate for money/attention and will do just about anything to debase themselves for it. I know. Isn't it great. 
These people are the best that the human race has to offer. 
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:32 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Chicken Georgie has been nominated, but it seems James will be the one to go. Then again, Janelle said she promised not to vote against James in the game. He only needs two more votes from either Danielle, Will or Erika.
As it stands, I say he'll be gone by Thursday. Jamesey Wamesey.
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:53 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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Christian wrote: Cotton wrote: mdana wrote: Watching that video, I feel disgusted with myself for watching this show. The producers treat these people like whores and we lap it up. These people are desperate for money/attention and will do just about anything to debase themselves for it. I know. Isn't it great.  These people are the best that the human race has to offer. 
Well we already have a chimp in office, why not explore the barnyard for further candidates?
Chicken George for President!
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:02 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
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So...Janelle is going to vote George out? I say she eventually decides to vote out James, though who knows.
Janney for HOH Thursday!!
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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She should obviously vote James out, but you never know I guess.
I kind of hope George gets voted out though, just because he's a freak.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:26 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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George would never go after Janelle, or vote her out, or anything. They aren't really in an alliance, but they seem to have an understanding. They both feel like outcasts. George staying in the game is only good for Janelle. I believe that Janelle will vote out James. She told Woogie in the HOH room that she promised never to vote out James, however she knows that James is backstabbing her and complaining and insulting her. She'll do it if she has to, and Woogie is begging her to vote for James (they want to get rid of him). With Will and Janelle's votes, it is a tie and Boogie breaks the tie and votes out James (that is the plan they tell Janelle).
Little do they know (or don't completely know) is that Erika is really emphasizing to Danielle how she wants to vote out James too (they can feel that CT wants to get rid of James) because she can use George in the game, but she can't use James (or beat him in competitions, which she can against George). Erika really, really wants to keep George in and vote out James. Danielle is the one person that is still torn, and has campaigned to get George out, but she is still talking about how she is torn and she will have to think on it some more.
With James' complaining about the competition and last season annoying all of the houseguests, and showing James' backstabbing, backbiting ways, I am getting more and more convinced that James will leave.
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:43 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
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Danielle will cave and vote out James. It's the best thing for everyone to do since James is a much bigger threat than George.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:48 pm |
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