Big Brother Allstars Spoiler Thread: Feeds, Etc.
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Chris
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Go Janey!! 
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:09 am |
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Libs
Sbil
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Yayyy Janelle.
Please evict James, people.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:06 am |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Man, I'm so excited, I really think James could possibly be leaving this Thursday. Danielle has told I think everyone in the LOD that she cannot vote against Chicken George if they were up on the block against him, she made that promise. I believe that Danielle is trying to work for George's jury vote (makes sense). So if Boogie is Georgie beside James (which seems really likely), then that is a vote to evict James, if Danielle is serious.
Both Erika and Danielle talked about how James has to go, he's got too good of an image for the jury, he continues to play both sides (won't choose a side) and he is good at competitions. They noted how he went straight to Janelle after the noms.
And Woogie said that if Janelle wins the POV, then they will go after James, because both James and Janelle are two huge threats in competition, so they want to get rid of at least one of them.
If all of them goes down, then it could be a unanimous eviction for James, or at least a 3-1 eviction. Even if it's a 2-2 vote, Boogie can break tie, and it all depends whether he has the guts to oust James with his tie-breaker.
I'll keep you updated on further discussion on whether this goes down.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:42 pm |
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I was gone for a day and a half, and the whole game has gone upside down!  (but at least its more interesting to watch now I think).
First off, it seems like Howie and Marcellas, two of the more predictable people, had to go, for the game really to pick up steam. Its pathetic on the players' parts to have still kept Danielle, Will, Janelle, and James in the house, into the top 7. They've gotten rid of Howie, Marcellas, Kaysar, Diane, Nakomis, Jase, and Alison. Jase really was I think the only big player that has been evicted, that is known for winning alot of competitions. Kaysar just wasn't playing this season, and Alison while sneaky first time around, had everyone knowing how she was, and thus wouldn't have been as affective this time around. So pretty much 1/6 times the house has got it right so far. The only weak player they really have left is CG. They have the powerhouse of big competitions winners left, and schemers. Danielle, Janelle, James, Will, all in the top 7? And Erika hands down, I think is the best endurance player out of all of the allstars, and probably one of the best ones to ever play the BB game. Erika just doesn't play until she needs to. She's also very close to Danielle now, and Mike Boogie, thus, I think she will make it in one way or another to the top 3. There are really 5 major biggies still in the top 7.
I really hope BB pulls what Survivor did, and have the viewers vote for their fav player to get $500,000 as well, and hands down, Janelle would win. Win 3 HOH's, and 3 vetos, and still half the players left, who knows how many more she could win.
Will by far is playing the best game. He was suggesting to Mike that Erika go, and I think Erika wants Will out, thus I think Will COULD potentially get Janelle to do his dirty work, by supporting her, and help her get Erika out. Outside of Boogie, I think Will will be with Janelle from now on, and not with James, or Danielle genuinely. Janelle gets things done, and they also get along, thus keeping Janelle around keeps Will around longer. Also, CG needs Janelle now I think, as they are more the loners of the house so to speak, with less support from the others. They are perhaps the oddest team up in bb history, but it could work out for both of them. Will will push Mike to keep around Janelle I think, as they need her around, so its really only Erika and Danielle that want her out. James may be saying how much he wants Janelle out, but he's gone so out of his way to make sure he looks as good to bb6 as possible, that its clear he still has some tie to her, even if he says otherwise. Other than Danielle, Janelle is really the only one that would help him at this point I think.
A very interesting point though. With Marcellas, James, and Howie possibly being the first three in sequester, I think we'll see a shift, where Marcellas will move back towards the bb6 crew, in support, and thus, James/Howie/Marcellas could vote similarly in the end. Janelle in the house as well (I don't see her making final 2, even with her game play), thus they will dictate the game's outcome.
Danielle I know has been all over the place, but we expect her more to scheme. Erika puts on this facade that she's caring for people, but she really has lost alot of fans I think, and her begging to George was horrible. I can't believe she did that. With all outcomes, I don't see how Erika can win at all. James, Danielle, Will, Mike, Janelle, and CG, all would beat her in the final 2 I think. The only close one might be a Mike/Erika match up, but I still see her losing.
I cant believe that Janelle will have made it to the final 6, despite winning the first HOH, and instantly being on everyone's radar. I don't see Will, James, CG, or Mike voting her out now, even if she was nominated, except if it was against CG. I think Howie leaving just makes her more someone people want to be with, as her and Will's alliance I think will get more genuine. Chilltown knew Howie was what was keeping Janelle from joining them all the way, thus they now have him gone, and they need her to get rid of Danielle, and Erika for them. Why would they want to vote her out now? I don't see it happening as much as I did last week.
James leaving this week would make the game much better, as his whining was getting ridiculous. Didn't he leave at this same position last year too? James may have been the veto king, but Janelle's competitions skills really is incredible. I felt bad to see CG get Howie out of the house, but I think the game is much more interesting now.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:02 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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The more I think about it, the more I respect the Chicken Man. He should be more than proud for taking out such a big presence in the house, even if it was a good friend. Best of all, I think Howie will be proud of him too. The atmosphere was likely hostile when Howie was evicted, which caused any drama that we may or may not see tonight on the eviction episode. Plus, I read that Howie's sister posted on Howie's website that he is doing well, and that he will be on The Early Show tomorrow (which never happens to those evicted on double eviction weeks).
OH HOWIE!
OH JANEY!
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:10 pm |
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A. G.
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Sounds like Jannelle is getting more and more isolated.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:19 pm |
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Libs
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Archie Gates wrote: Sounds like Jannelle is getting more and more isolated.
How is she getting more isolated when she just won the POV?
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:11 pm |
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A. G.
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Libs wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Sounds like Jannelle is getting more and more isolated. How is she getting more isolated when she just won the POV?
My isolated comment wasn't about what she's won, it was about the people she's closest too keep getting removed. I am not talking about her being about to be ejected, just saying it's not looking good for the long haul for her.
Maybe I misread an above post, it's easy to do in this thread, but it sounded like they said Howie just got booted.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:23 pm |
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Libs
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Archie Gates wrote: Libs wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Sounds like Jannelle is getting more and more isolated. How is she getting more isolated when she just won the POV? My isolated comment wasn't about what she's won, it was about the people she's closest too keep getting removed. I am not talking about her being about to be ejected, just saying it's not looking good for the long haul for her.
Well...
She's kind of "open" with Will, Boogie and Chicken George now.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:24 pm |
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A. G.
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I'm not sure what you mean by open, if you mean allied, I don't think Will and Mike have any allegiance to her, no matter what they might say.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:28 pm |
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Libs
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Archie Gates wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by open, if you mean allied, I don't think Will and Mike have any allegiance to her, no matter what they might say.
As in...
If Will/Boogie/Chicken George were in power next week, I'm not sure she would be evicted.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:00 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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James is becoming beyond annoying. He is still whining like crazy and maintains the competition was rigged in Janelle's favour, just like when George won POV after James put him up, James called that one rigged too. He claims that Janelle cheated, and BB is favouring Janelle. He said when he gets to sequester, he's going to badmouth Janelle and make sure she gets no votes. *Yawn* This is getting so old. James is convinced though he isn't going this week, but I think he may be in for a surprise. Even the person who is supposed to be really close to him, Danielle, is largely not responding to or backing up James' comments at all. James is brining in past situations from BB6 and trashing Janelle, talking about how she's cheated before, blah blah blah. Danielle actually defended Janelle for a moment, talking about how she didn't see it the way James did, and then James goes "bullshit" and Danielle goes "sorry".
I don't think I can seriously stand James anymore, and neither can the houseguests! His whining is only making it worse for himself. How James didn't win "Biggest whiner" at the prom blows my mind.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:00 pm |
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A. G.
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You don't think these things are sometimes rigged? I do. They were a little too blatant about it a few weeks ago though when some of the guys' buzzers conveniently didn't work.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:02 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Archie Gates wrote: You don't think these things are sometimes rigged? I do. They were a little too blatant about it a few weeks ago though when some of the guys' buzzers conveniently didn't work.
I don't know, that was the first time they did a competition of that kind, so I can see how the technology might have certainly screwed up. I think BB tries to push things their way, but to actually rig the game? No, I don't see it. James has a history of calling a game rigged or calling someone a cheater whenever things don't go his way. That is James' style. James already had a huge convo with producers in the DR; he said he threatened lawsuits, etc etc, so BB is not going to bullshit around.
The competition revolved around trying to collect dolls of previous houseguests scattered everywhere when asked a certain question, or something to that effect from what I gathered from the houseguests comments, and James claims Janelle cheated, but Big Brother said that they have no camera shot that confirms what he is saying. Janelle actually says that James pushed her down when trying to get the doll, and so James was the one being rough (the whole thing is over "incidental contact" - you aren't allowed to purposefully make contact with another player to obstruct them, or whatever).
In any event, this apparent "incident" was a pivotal part of the POV, so we will see it on Tuesday's episode, and we will see once and for all whether James is lying or not. Considering NONE of the houseguests back up James' comments, and Big Brother isn't doing anything, I'm willing to bet James is lying. Because we will see on Tuesday, and if anybody cheated and BB ignored it, you can bet there will be complaints.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:13 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I bet those four veto wins last year, and his HOH and veto win this year were totally clean, right James?
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:30 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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All I can say is that Janelle is one lucky bitch. 
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:26 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Cotton wrote: All I can say is that Janelle is one lucky bitch. 
Three HOHs and three veto wins just this year alone?
Luck is only part of it.
(Archie, don't you dare say "And the other part is rigging of competitions.")
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:50 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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Mr. X wrote: Cotton wrote: All I can say is that Janelle is one lucky bitch.  Three HOHs and three veto wins just this year alone? Luck is only part of it. (Archie, don't you dare say "And the other part is rigging of competitions.")
Well, it's not like you have to be a rocket scientist to do well in the BB competitions...
Anyway, she deserves to be there in her own right, but I still don't think she's played a smart game.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:10 pm |
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A. G.
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It's not like Janelle is good for ratings or anything.... 
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:24 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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The way I see it is that Will and Boogie have gotten away with a multitude of stuff on this show for the entire season; things that would give them a penalty nomination or an eviction regularly under the rules, but the producers let things slide for them because Will is "the show" and Boogie is the friend that Will said must be in the house for him to enter the house and actively participate as well.
If Janelle even gets any favouritism, it's very minor compared to Woogie. The producers didn't really do anything to magically help Kaysar stay in the game, and he was much more popular than Janelle. And Janelle would have been gone last week if it wasn't for George's incredible move.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:42 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
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How many HOHs and POVs did Janelle win last year?
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:44 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Chris wrote: How many HOHs and POVs did Janelle win last year?
Season 6: 2 HOH's and 2 POV's
Season 7 (so far): 3 HOH's and 3 POV's
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:47 pm |
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A. G.
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Just for the record, I'm not claiming it's all rigged. I'm suspicious of most reality TV shows and tend to think they nudge things now and then in a direction they want, or at least try to. But not that everything is fake.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:58 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Well, look at the Love 'Em or Leave 'Em polls. Kaysar was, by far, the most popular contestant on the show. I don't see him still in the house.
I think Janelle wanted to play this game with Howie. Kaysar and James were just backup plans to get to the finals. Unfortunately, she has lost two of them (and never had the third), and there's still five others left in the house.
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:58 pm |
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Looks my theory might be wrong on hg's who want Janelle out! Danielle said this to the cameras when alone today:
"I gotta change my strategy if I wanna make it to the F2. If I'm gonna get the votes to win I gotta take Janelle. I have to talk to that girl."
Its clear that James is becoming too much baggage for her, and that it would hurt her to campaign for him to stay this week. Thus, I think she is less likely to go for Janelle, and may form some sort of truce together, with the goal of getting Erika out of the game. Erika is in the big alliances more than anyone, and everyone knows it now. So its CG, Will, Mike, Danielle, and James that I think now want to keep Janelle around to work with her, and really only Erika that will go out of her way to get her out of the house. Everyone knows now that they need Janelle. Hopefully they form some sort of agreement...
This makes sense though!
James: Going soon, as he's too big a player.
Will/Erika/Mike: All would take one of the others to the final 2.
Janelle: A wildcard, but could take Danielle to the final 2, as Janelle would have a stronger chance with Danielle than some of the others.
CG: He's all over the place, and more unpredictable. But I think Danielle realizes just how imp. Janelle is to her game.
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