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Nominations occured when the fish were up. We have the feeds back now, and it's been deduced that (HIGHLIGHT)

Rachel and Howie are nominated for eviction. Janelle saying the only way they might all be safe is if Janelle wins veto, takes Howie off, and then James is put up.


Well, I'm very glad Janelle is safe. I really thought with how vocal Janelle has been with the core members that she would have been put up even if just to "teach her a lesson" or whatever. I actually really don't want Howie or Rachel to win the veto, because that means Janelle is guaranteed up. I'd rather see Janelle win the veto, save a member plus save herself. Or a core member win the veto, which would hopefully also mean Janelle is still safe as they hopefully wouldn't use it, unless they are planning to backdoor her. The best case scenerio is obviously Janelle winning, and James going up. Then there is a possibility, albeit very slim, that James could go. You'd have 2 votes to evict James from the two outcasts who can vote, and then they'd have to persuade 2 of the core members to vote James, which seems reaaaally unlikely to me, unless something comes up.

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greasedlightning wrote:
Nominations occured when the fish were up. We have the feeds back now, and it's been deduced that (HIGHLIGHT)

Rachel and Howie are nominated for eviction. Janelle saying the only way they might all be safe is if Janelle wins veto, takes Howie off, and then James is put up.



Something VERY intriguing is happening in the Big Brother house.

Apparently Rachel, Janelle, Howie, and APRIL, have a plan to take H/R off by giving veto to Janelle, have Beau put up James, and then April will vote out James with them. But April really isn't that smart, if she goes against the friendship now, they aren't putting James up, they're putting April up for turning on them. Also, apparently James heard the WHOLE thing, and went straight to tell Ivette. This is going to be a good week, but it seems that the friendship is now Maggie, Ivette, and Beau, because April if she follows through with this plan, would never be allowed back in the alliance, and they just dont trust James, so I don't think he would be a part of it either. Very interesting regardless!


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MikeQ. wrote:
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Nominations occured when the fish were up. We have the feeds back now, and it's been deduced that (HIGHLIGHT)

Rachel and Howie are nominated for eviction. Janelle saying the only way they might all be safe is if Janelle wins veto, takes Howie off, and then James is put up.


Well, I'm very glad Janelle is safe. I really thought with how vocal Janelle has been with the core members that she would have been put up even if just to "teach her a lesson" or whatever. I actually really don't want Howie or Rachel to win the veto, because that means Janelle is guaranteed up. I'd rather see Janelle win the veto, save a member plus save herself. Or a core member win the veto, which would hopefully also mean Janelle is still safe as they hopefully wouldn't use it, unless they are planning to backdoor her. The best case scenerio is obviously Janelle winning, and James going up. Then there is a possibility, albeit very slim, that James could go. You'd have 2 votes to evict James from the two outcasts who can vote, and then they'd have to persuade 2 of the core members to vote James, which seems reaaaally unlikely to me, unless something comes up.

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No, if someone on the block gets off, and James goes up, then they'd only need ONE more vote from the outcasts. Five people vote this week, two of those votes wil lbelong to outcasts (if one gets off). And they're not going to vote Janelle out, no matter what. They just said in the HoH room that they need to split up Howie/Rachel. They're talking about a few weeks from now, too, if it comes down to voting James or Janelle otu, they're voting James out. So Janelle has a chance for a few weeks it seems. As long as James and Howie or Rachel are still there.


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greasedlightning wrote:
Nominations occured when the fish were up. We have the feeds back now, and it's been deduced that (HIGHLIGHT)

Rachel and Howie are nominated for eviction. Janelle saying the only way they might all be safe is if Janelle wins veto, takes Howie off, and then James is put up.



Something VERY intriguing is happening in the Big Brother house.

Apparently Rachel, Janelle, Howie, and APRIL, have a plan to take H/R off by giving veto to Janelle, have Beau put up James, and then April will vote out James with them. But April really isn't that smart, if she goes against the friendship now, they aren't putting James up, they're putting April up for turning on them. Also, apparently James heard the WHOLE thing, and went straight to tell Ivette. This is going to be a good week, but it seems that the friendship is now Maggie, Ivette, and Beau, because April if she follows through with this plan, would never be allowed back in the alliance, and they just dont trust James, so I don't think he would be a part of it either. Very interesting regardless!


James did tell Beau about it, even Howie did, but the feeds weren't up at that time, it happened before the feeds came on, so we don't even know if it's even true. The Outcasts could have concocted the plan to try and get April out instead of one of them, and might have been rehearsing their story when James heard. James could have even been in on it, too. But I doubt it'll happen. And if April "throws" the competition, they'd never know because she's not strong in those physical comps. And if April does do this, and James goes up and she gets helps get James out, she'd be smart as hell to do that because then the Outcasts would have the power. It would be Howie, Janelle, Rachel, April versus Maggie, Beau, Ivette. And Beau can't compete for HoH so it owuld be the four of them versus Maggie and Ivette, and the odds would be in their favor. So April would be smart to do it.


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I think it's becoming clearer that the April thing was contrived. Rachel, Howie, and Janelle talking in the backyard that if Janelle wins veto and gets Howie off and James goes up, they need to try and cut a deal with Maggie. No mention of April. I think they made the April thing up just to try and put a target on her and off of them.


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greasedlightning wrote:
I think it's becoming clearer that the April thing was contrived. Rachel, Howie, and Janelle talking in the backyard that if Janelle wins veto and gets Howie off and James goes up, they need to try and cut a deal with Maggie. No mention of April. I think they made the April thing up just to try and put a target on her and off of them.


That's definately the way to go, I think. Maggie out of all of them would be the one who would most likely switch her vote to James, since they have ill feelings towards eachother. Still, I don't see it happening. Maggie would be smarter than that I think, and not choose to vote James.

Perhaps going to April now would be a smart plan. April is really vulnerable and emotional, and really on her own now with Jennifer gone. She doesn't connect to Ivette (has said bad things about her) and thus probably isn't that close with Beau either, as they are partners. If they went to April and told her if they helped give Janelle the veto, and then voted their way to evict James, that she would immediately be a part of their group, and would have an advantage over the core. But again, I don't see April switching sides either.

I'm going to expect the worst, and say Rachel or Howie is definately out.


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I assume the next eviction will be on Thursday?


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Weird. Considering I don't have the feeds and I missed yesterday's show, I won't speculate that much with the April thing. It sounds rather doubtfull and far-fetched, but we'll know for sure Tuesday night when/if they show us everybody's reasonings in the Diary Room.

Anyway, like I said I missed yesterday's show. Can someone please explain to me Janelle's rational in veto-ing one of her own nominees and putting Ivette up on the block? It seems rather pointless and over-doing it...unless of course I'm missing something.


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Weird. Considering I don't have the feeds and I missed yesterday's show, I won't speculate that much with the April thing. It sounds rather doubtfull and far-fetched, but we'll know for sure Tuesday night when/if they show us everybody's reasonings in the Diary Room.

Anyway, like I said I missed yesterday's show. Can someone please explain to me Janelle's rational in veto-ing one of her own nominees and putting Ivette up on the block? It seems rather pointless and over-doing it...unless of course I'm missing something.


They REALLY wanted to guarantee Jennifer out. Maggie versus Jennifer, James would have voted out Maggie, and others may have as well. But with Ivette versus Jennifer, James, Beau, and Maggie, were guaranteed almost to vote for Jennifer to be evicted, over Ivette, so it was more possible to get Jennifer out by putting her against Ivette, instead of Maggie. They just wanted a guarantee that Jennifer was indeed out.


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God, that was so disappointing.

Spoilers-

And then to read nominations. I don't know why I expected anything better. If someone like Janelle wins veto, I hope she takes Howie off. I would assume they're more likely to vote Howie out than Rachel, and that way, James might finally go. I'll be reading spoilers all week, so I'm hoping again for Thursday's show.

I'm so fucking depressed right now. It's like they're fucking with us. We've been screwed around since Eric left, and we get, what? A day? Two days to celebrate? Now we're back to this bullshit. God... it was just horrible watching Jennifer lie and lie and lie about all this random BS, especially after breaking every single promise she made, then feeling as though she didn't deserve to be called a bitch? She was a cocky, arrogant bitch, and I'm glad that, at least, she's gone. I can't even bring myself to see if anyone uploads any videos of the live feeds, because I can't take it anymore. I cannot take seeing those four act the way they do. I hope to GOD that James is evicted Thursday. I hope Janelle wins veto, James is put up, and they convince SOMEONE to vote off James. Ivette won't, Beau obviously can't vote, so it's Maggie or April. Maggie is the best choice, because she wanted him out anyway. April is just... argh.

What a horrible, horrible competition that was. I'm just seething right now at this. I am fucking livid. It's a combo of all this crap going on right now in my life, and this added insult to injury. It's not even a game I'm involved in, but I can't bring myself to root for arrogant morons like them, who parade around like they rule the entire house, who got on a blood hunt when their beloved Cappy left, and then wonder why Janelle calls Jennifer a bitch on TV, and why they're so heartbroken over the eviction of Kaysar. Morons.

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The one good thing about this is that Beau has stepped out into the spotlight now. Even if he makes the right decision and puts up James no matter what, he's no longer Silent Killer. Nothing is safe in this game anymore.

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Spoilers

James won veto :mad:

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rhyno wrote:
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James won veto :mad:


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Well, I doubt he's using it, because he wouldn't want to stir anything up with anyone else, so he doesn't become a target. Rachel and Howie are definatel gone now.


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MikeQ. wrote:
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James won veto :mad:


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Well, I doubt he's using it, because he wouldn't want to stir anything up with anyone else, so he doesn't become a target. Rachel and Howie are definatel gone now.


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yep, just came here to post that. I can't fuckin believe that Beau picked James. It pisses me off soo much. Bye-bye Rachel/Howie. My guess is they're going for Rachel though. Oh well... I'd rather see her go over Howie or Janelle.


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greasedlightning wrote:
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James won veto :mad:


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Well, I doubt he's using it, because he wouldn't want to stir anything up with anyone else, so he doesn't become a target. Rachel and Howie are definatel gone now.


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yep, just came here to post that. I can't fuckin believe that Beau picked James. It pisses me off soo much. Bye-bye Rachel/Howie. My guess is they're going for Rachel though. Oh well... I'd rather see her go over Howie or Janelle.


Beau picked James?!?! Geeeeze.

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MikeQ. wrote:
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James won veto :mad:


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Well, I doubt he's using it, because he wouldn't want to stir anything up with anyone else, so he doesn't become a target. Rachel and Howie are definatel gone now.


PEACE, Mike.


yep, just came here to post that. I can't fuckin believe that Beau picked James. It pisses me off soo much. Bye-bye Rachel/Howie. My guess is they're going for Rachel though. Oh well... I'd rather see her go over Howie or Janelle.


Beau picked James?!?! Geeeeze.

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I know. Ivette is pushing for James to use it and put up Janelle and get her out because she was a "fierce competitor." Nooo. Once Janelle goes, I'm through watching.. no joke. If James or Rachel/Howie make it to final two, I'd watch. I'm so sad-- Janelle had the second fastest time according to what Ivette is saying.. she was sooo close.


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Ugh.

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Maggie said that James beat Janelle by four seconds :(


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Maggie said that James beat Janelle by four seconds :(


That's just horrible. You think the producers would give Janelle the veto. Then again, they likely hate the outcasts.

Viva La Outcasts!

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Weird. Considering I don't have the feeds and I missed yesterday's show, I won't speculate that much with the April thing. It sounds rather doubtfull and far-fetched, but we'll know for sure Tuesday night when/if they show us everybody's reasonings in the Diary Room.

Anyway, like I said I missed yesterday's show. Can someone please explain to me Janelle's rational in veto-ing one of her own nominees and putting Ivette up on the block? It seems rather pointless and over-doing it...unless of course I'm missing something.


They REALLY wanted to guarantee Jennifer out. Maggie versus Jennifer, James would have voted out Maggie, and others may have as well. But with Ivette versus Jennifer, James, Beau, and Maggie, were guaranteed almost to vote for Jennifer to be evicted, over Ivette, so it was more possible to get Jennifer out by putting her against Ivette, instead of Maggie. They just wanted a guarantee that Jennifer was indeed out.


People have been saying that The Friendship is the group that is motivated the most by emotion and that the Sovergnists are more into strategic game-play, however I'm starting to doubt that. If Janelle and co really wanted to put a dent in The Friendship, they would have eliminated Maggie, or even Ivette, instead of trying to impose vengence on flash-of-the-pan Jennifer.

For me, along with Howie's HOH blunder, this is the second week that the Sovergnists fail to capitalize with an HOH.

NOTE: I havn't read the spoilers, so I know I'm a little behind. ;)


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I think capitalizing this week meant nothing. Who REALLY thought Beau would pull this out of his ass? He's likely going to be the next target, if an Outcast wins AGAIN this Thursday, which would be awesome. It'll be a mistake, but he's probably going to blow his own cover.

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Spoilerish

Beau made the same mistake Jennifer made. Now that he won HOH, Howie/Janelle (assuming Rachel is leaving) are going to try to go after him and Ivette if they have power.

If he hadn't have won, they would've probably tried to get rid of April and Maggie first.


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Beau made the same mistake Jennifer made. Now that he won HOH, Howie/Janelle (assuming Rachel is leaving) are going to try to go after him and Ivette if they have power.

If he hadn't have won, they would've probably tried to get rid of April and Maggie first.


Exactly. It seems weird that the below the radar people are steppin' up, and steppin' out the last few weeks (Sarah, Jennifer). Sure, bigger fish should be fried, too.

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Not really a spoiler, but i'll white it out anyways.


At this point, though, the outcasts KNOW they have slim to none chances of making it to the finals. And if they do get there, they will not win it. The friendship has the votes. I think at this point, they're in the mentality of -- who would we rather give 500,000 to? Her or her? They're now eliminating the people they don't want to win it, pretty much.


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Not really a spoiler, but i'll white it out anyways.


At this point, though, the outcasts KNOW they have slim to none chances of making it to the finals. And if they do get there, they will not win it. The friendship has the votes. I think at this point, they're in the mentality of -- who would we rather give 500,000 to? Her or her? They're now eliminating the people they don't want to win it, pretty much.


Yep. Yep. Unless 2 outcasts can both make it to the final 2 (which is pretty much impossible, seeing as how after this thursday 2 will only be left then, and they would have to win HOH back to back to back, etc.) an outcast will definately NOT win the game. The friendship has the votes in the jury as greased said, so there is no possible way an outcast is winning even if they could make it to the final 2.

Now with that being said, I am VERY glad Jennifer is out of the game, because I absolutely do not want her winning the game. When all of the outcasts and James are gone from the game, Maggie is who I am rooting for, because she is easily the strongest player and most level headed of the friendship. She also isn't annoying, while Beau, Ivette and April are all super annoying. If the final 2 ends up being any combination of Beau, Ivette, and April, it will probably be the worst Big Brother finale I have ever seen. Ever. Which is enormously disappointing to think about, and to realize that there is a really good chance of this actually happening. :sad:

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