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Chris wrote:
Awesome speculation!!

Okay, I've read that both April and Jenn are considering voting out Ivette instead of Sarah, but they are very wishy-washy on it. Something about what will happen to Ivette if Eric comes back. They finally told Maggie about it, but I'm not sure how she reacted. This would be fucking awesome if it happens!! Might not be likely, but who knows.


Wishfull thinking. April campaigned her ass off to rid the house of James and I doubt she'll sell-out a member of her alliance (even if she is wishy-washy) to pass up an opportunity to sink another nail in his coffin. Voting out Sarah would be that nail.

Honestly, there are so many Spazette haters out there. They're all bringing so much of that hatred to the table when they watch the feeds that they're bound to jump when they hear of a possible plan to get rid of her. After all, her eviction is the grand opus we've all been waiting for.


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Awesome speculation!!

Okay, I've read that both April and Jenn are considering voting out Ivette instead of Sarah, but they are very wishy-washy on it. Something about what will happen to Ivette if Eric comes back. They finally told Maggie about it, but I'm not sure how she reacted. This would be fucking awesome if it happens!! Might not be likely, but who knows.


Wishfull thinking. April campaigned her ass off to rid the house of James and I doubt she'll sell-out a member of her alliance (even if she is wishy-washy) to pass up an opportunity to sink another nail in his coffin. Voting out Sarah would be that nail.

Honestly, there are so many Spazette haters out there. They're all bringing so much of that hatred to the table when they watch the feeds that they're bound to jump when they hear of a possible plan to get rid of her. After all, her eviction is the grand opus we've all been waiting for.


Another reason I've heard is that they feel like they have better shots at the money switching sides...instead of a 6 person alliance (They are assuming Eric's returning) they would be in a 5 (James and Sarah are not included).


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Oh my god, oh my god! That would be AWESOME!!!!!

And Cotton... I'm pretty sure that whatever happen on the feeds, pertaining to voting someone off and what-not, the news is going to be leaked anyway, whether it makes The Friendship (of Losers) look good or look shit out of luck.

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They're not gonna vote Ivette out. Jen todl Maggie everything, the whole plan, etc. and she told April she's sticking to voting out Sarah. Jen is sayign that no matter what side they go to, they're going to be the first picked off once the other side is gone. Jen doesn't want to break the promise she made to Maggie et al because they promised each other final five, and that they won't put each other up until then.


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They're not gonna vote Ivette out. Jen todl Maggie everything, the whole plan, etc. and she told April she's sticking to voting out Sarah. Jen is sayign that no matter what side they go to, they're going to be the first picked off once the other side is gone. Jen doesn't want to break the promise she made to Maggie et al because they promised each other final five, and that they won't put each other up until then.


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Oh my god, oh my god! That would be AWESOME!!!!!

And Cotton... I'm pretty sure that whatever happen on the feeds, pertaining to voting someone off and what-not, the news is going to be leaked anyway, whether it makes The Friendship (of Losers) look good or look shit out of luck.


Well, I guess we'll find out Thursday night.

Anyway, I don't have the feeds, so I can't really say that much until I watch Tuesday's ep. However, 95% of what goes on in the feeds is probably useless info considering I've done just fine predicting who'd get evicted every week for the past, like, 3 years.

And BTW, I know some people here probably think I like "The Friendship (of losers)" (I call them "Team Dork") more than the "Sovereign 6"...well, your probably right. :oops: HOWEVER, there are only two reasons:

1. Janelle. I don't mind the other five (well, James gets a bit pathetic in his delusions) but the fact that she's so popular -- and the most well liked in the house right now according to the polls at CBS.com -- makes my skin crawl. Many say she's largely responsible for forming the "Sovereign 6" and turning things upside down, but I say she's mostly responsible for being a pain in the butt. She's just a second rate Paris Hilton...minus the class.

2. Spazette. Admit it, she has camp value!


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I just really don't understand all the hatred towards James. I understand he is a threat, but the group should have stuck together at least until more of the Friendship gets voted out. James is manipulating, but he's just playing the game. I honestly don't think he would have put up Howie and Rachel like he told Ivette. He was just telling her what she wanted to hear! Howie is stupid and I hope he is out soon. I'm assuming Kaysar is coming back and hope he can straighten things out and get things back on track. However, Kaysar is going to be a big target if he comes back and if Sarah leaves, the good guys will be down in numbers. Stupid Stupid Howie!

April is now officially the most annoying person in the house. She's more of a threat than most people think because she is such a troublemaker. All she does is stir the pot with all of her gossiping.

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So, um, how the hell did James win the veto?? This was the one competition where the rest of the house had control in the game to purposefully make sure he didn't win, yet they GAVE it to him. Are they fucking morons? Wow. I'm just floored here. I thought before the show when I had heard, that James pulled through and won the veto again because of his own merit. But the house gave it to him. And they all wanted him gone. Yep, they're morons.

I just can't get over this. :blink:

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What I really love though is that everyone is against James and Sarah. It's no longer The Core vs. The Outcasts. It's everyone vs. James and Sarah. That is so awesome. It's so nice to see the outcasts and the core working together towards a common goal. They are all sharing the HOH room and getting along and talking. It's awesome.

I understand James was just trying to save himself the week before, but he was the only person who chose to sell out the outcasts and trying to work the other side. But he was a moron anyways and screwed himself over and got both sides to hate him. Anyone telling me that I HAVE to like James or that I'm not allowed to hate him because he was "just playing the game" is being silly. I'm allowed to hate James all I want. I'm allowed to be agaisnt him all I want. He went against the outcasts, he screwed himself over by getting the whole house to hate him, and now he is becoming annoying. It's not my fault he screwed himself over. I have no reason to root for James, and am going to continue to bad mouth him if I want to.

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So, um, how the hell did James win the veto?? This was the one competition where the rest of the house had control in the game to purposefully make sure he didn't win, yet they GAVE it to him. Are they fucking morons? Wow. I'm just floored here. I thought before the show when I had heard, that James pulled through and won the veto again because of his own merit. But the house gave it to him. And they all wanted him gone. Yep, they're morons.

I just can't get over this. :blink:

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They're morons. They supposedly want James out and they fuck up the easiest POV imaginable to blackball someone, everyone put the freakin' candy in James pinata if you really want him out. How freakin' hard is that? All this, "oh I put 2 in James, 1 in Rachel's, 1 in Jen's, and ..." They have to be imbeciles. It takes three people to get James out (really only two and one other idiot to put just one in his pinata and James goes home). Remember in the chess match Howie was either not trying to help James or is an idiot, because he was on the other side of the chess board when they were taking out Maggie and Ivette. If he situated himself correctly Ivette would have been out immediately as would have Maggie. The Boy Doofus goes over to the other corner.

How exactly did James sell anyone out? He told Ivette what she wanted to hear and she either miscontrued it or the core only told Howie (dumbest MF in America) what they wanted him to hear. He didn't swear on the bible he would take out Howie and Rachel. He stated he had to take out Maggie first. James for all his scheming is actually much more loyal than Howie. Janelle and her "Oh, Howie" is starting to annoy the hell out of me, I also don't like how she keeps attaching herself to whom she thinks is the dominant male (or the male in power that week). I don't really like Maggie but she plays the game the smartest and seems the most ethical. I really hate everyone at this point, so I am going to be rooting for James to be a one man wrecking ball and tear the house down. I used to hate him, but I really think all his actions have been much more loyal to the group than Howie's have. By the ground rules that Kaysar established James didn't do anything wrong. The problem was they didn't understand Kaysar's rules (or at least Howie pretends not to). I wanted Kaysar back in the house, but I almost feel like Maggie deserves Eric, because she is a much better player than anyone in the Sovereign.

April is the liar and schemer that she projects on to James. She has told so many lies to so many people and yet she is never in jeapordy. It was amazing how she pretended like she wanted to go up on the block, but really wanted Ivette to go up there and guilted her into going instead. Now, she has Howie thinking about going after Ivette next, protecting April and Jen for another few weeks perhaps. Then she had the audacity to bitch Ivette out for some petty thing when Ivette should have been the one bitching April out. Very impressive how gullible these houseguests are. James fucked himself by not figuring out the partners twist and talking smak to the wrong people.

Its odd but every BB I have seen and this only the second I have watched seriously (I watched the one with Allison), I hate everyone by the end and hope for an act of God to smite them from the face of the earth (I don't believe in God, so I don't really want them to die it is just a snarky expression). Perhaps, if Howie pulls this out without getting burned I will regain respect for his play and realize the move to oust James was the right play. However, at this point it still seems like Howie burned himself.

Fantasy Time-I would love if Kaysar came back and the four orphans (Kaysar, James, Janelle, and Maggie) ganged up and took out all the remaining couples. They truly are the fantastic four in terms of the being the best players. Janelle has been able to survive two votes easily, Kaysar is stategically the smartest (but I hope he learned to keep his mouth shut while away). Maggie as I stated before is the best player, and James is a just a flat out survivor he's been on the block three times and wiggled out of the hangman's noose. It would never happen, but it would be great televison.

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How exactly did James sell anyone out? He told Ivette what she wanted to hear and she either miscontrued it or the core only told Howie (dumbest MF in America) what they wanted him to hear. He didn't swear on the bible he would take out Howie and Rachel. He stated he had to take out Maggie first.


Umm.. he did swear on the bible.. he didn't say "I swear" but he pretty much did swear -- he even knows it because he said so on todays show that he did swear, but he told ivette is was "nullified" (his words). He said to Ivette, "If I get HoH, I'm putting up Rachel and Howie," and Ivette said, "Do you promise?" And James PUT HIS HAND ON THE BIBLE and said, "Look at my hand. I'm puttign them up." Go and watch it again.. it was there, clear as day.

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So, um, how the hell did James win the veto?? This was the one competition where the rest of the house had control in the game to purposefully make sure he didn't win, yet they GAVE it to him. Are they fucking morons? Wow. I'm just floored here. I thought before the show when I had heard, that James pulled through and won the veto again because of his own merit. But the house gave it to him. And they all wanted him gone. Yep, they're morons.


This was the same competition that they had last year -- remember the pigs. And remember how they tried to get rid of Jase last year, and they also handed him the veto in the same competition -- not all the people thought on the same track to get him out.

I don't blame them for messing up -- Rachel and Jen have never seen Big Brother five, so they didn't know how to play the game, and just went out and did what they thought to do. Howie and Ivette were the ones who have seen BB5 and knew what to do. James sat and thought abotu it, and Sarah just did whatever.

I don't blame them for messign up because there are so many ways to look at the situation. There are four people on Howie's side -- they could have each put five in Howie's pinata, and five in their own, so Howie would have gotten exactly twenty and won the veto. They could have spread the candies out any way they wanted, not putting any in James and Sarah's, so that James and Sarah would each get zero candies. There are so many possibilities, and it's not like the four of them got to sit and think about what they wanted to do before hand -- they were locked up in different rooms so they couldn't discuss the contest, and had to go out there and try and figure out what everyone else would do -- which obviously isn't the easiest thing to do.

It's better for James to stay then Sarah at this point, though, because James is stronger and is still very much sticking with getting Maggie out. He won't go after Howie/Rachel/Janelle if he were to HoH this week, where as Sarah would probably play with emotions and put up Howie and Rachel. James would get Maggie out, then after that, probably go for Howie/Rachel, but if Kaysar comes back in, I'm sure Kaysar could convince him to stick with the team and forget the revenge until they're final five.




And as to the person who said Janelle attaches herself to the "dominant male"... that's not true. Why did she go to Kaysar? To be blunt, because Michael told her to. Before Michael left, he told her to stick to Kaysar because he was a smart guy. So she did. By going with Kaysar, she inherited Howie and Rachel. Howie throws himself at every woman in the house, and Janelle, instead of shooting him down, just plays along with it. And with Kaysar gone, the only people she has left are Howie and Rachel. Besides, she was with Howie/Rachel before Kaysar left, and when Kaysar was in the house, she was more with Howie then with Kaysar. Janelle nad Howie would constantly hang out together on the hammock and work out together. She was more with Howie then she was Kaysar, so their friendship was there before he won HoH.


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YESSS!!! Kaysar is back, and won with 82% of the votes!!! lmao. That's awesome.

You guys were right in that the HOH competition is endurance now, finally. This gives me great, great hope that one of Kaysar, Janelle, or Rachel can win the competition, since it's fair game for everyone, as it's all about will power. I'm worried James might win, since he has huge motivation to, but we'll see what happens. I don't think Jennifer or April will win, since they are both pretty cosy right now and don't have any desperation to win. The box twist in the "pressure cooker" is cool too.

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I actually want to see James win, just because I think he'll put up either Maggie or Ivette. He doesn't hate Kaysar since he was the only person to vote for him last week, so he's safe. I fear that if Janelle or Rachel get it, James is up and they can't do that. They really need him to ensure votes and whatnot for at least a few more weeks. It was very stupid for Howie to get rid of Sarah (try to get rid of James). Someone from the evil team needs to leave this week, or it's over.


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Thank god it was Kaysar.

The first thing I thought when I saw that "pressure cooker" was that it was a sauna and the contestants would be sweating it out to get the HOH :sweat: . Come to think of it, that would have been a pretty damn cool idea......Janelle shedding clothing ;) . The mystery boxes do provide a nice distraction/temptation for the houseguests though.


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Gonna be a long night on the feeds! It sucks that you have to wait for two more people in order to leave the box.. a lot of negotiating and bitching will ensue!


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Chris wrote:
I actually want to see James win, just because I think he'll put up either Maggie or Ivette. He doesn't hate Kaysar since he was the only person to vote for him last week, so he's safe. I fear that if Janelle or Rachel get it, James is up and they can't do that. They really need him to ensure votes and whatnot for at least a few more weeks. It was very stupid for Howie to get rid of Sarah (try to get rid of James). Someone from the evil team needs to leave this week, or it's over.


If James voted FOR Kaysar, that isn't a good thing. Do you mean James is the only one not to vote for Kaysar? Even then, that means he voted for Janelle, who is part of the outcasts. Even if James doesn't go after Kaysar, what about Howie and Rachel, or even Janelle? They all worked together to get out James or Sarah. He could easily go after them. I'm surprised you think he will easily go after the Maggie and Ivette group. I would love for that, but it seems a little too naive for me.

I would rather see an outcast win it, so that they are guaranteed safe. They might do the right thing this time, now that Kaysar is back in the house. Kaysar was good at separating emotion and strategy.

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Gonna be a long night on the feeds! It sucks that you have to wait for two more people in order to leave the box.. a lot of negotiating and bitching will ensue!


Will you keep us (or at least the ones who like to read the spoilers before the show) posted on who let's go of their button/leaves as it goes on, if you're ever watching the feeds? I appreciate it.

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I actually want to see James win, just because I think he'll put up either Maggie or Ivette. He doesn't hate Kaysar since he was the only person to vote for him last week, so he's safe. I fear that if Janelle or Rachel get it, James is up and they can't do that. They really need him to ensure votes and whatnot for at least a few more weeks. It was very stupid for Howie to get rid of Sarah (try to get rid of James). Someone from the evil team needs to leave this week, or it's over.


If James voted FOR Kaysar, that isn't a good thing. Do you mean James is the only one not to vote for Kaysar? Even then, that means he voted for Janelle, who is part of the outcasts. Even if James doesn't go after Kaysar, what about Howie and Rachel, or even Janelle? They all worked together to get out James or Sarah. He could easily go after them. I'm surprised you think he will easily go after the Maggie and Ivette group. I would love for that, but it seems a little too naive for me.

I would rather see an outcast win it, so that they are guaranteed safe. They might do the right thing this time, now that Kaysar is back in the house. Kaysar was good at separating emotion and strategy.

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Right, he voted for Janelle, but he had to vote out an outcast either way. If Kaysar, Rachel or Janelle win, I think James is going up. Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Kaysar have ill feelings towards James? Either way, James will probably go up, unless they feel he's no longer a threat without Sarah. And James won't nominated any outcasts, because if he does. he will definently be up the following week if one of them gets HOH, and he's safer sticking with them. The other side despises him, while I think the outcasts can stand him. And now that I think of it, didn't Janelle and Rachel urge Howie not to nominate James? Hopefully they still feel that way.


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Yay Kaysar! Even though I hated the twist, I'm glad he's the one who came back.

Anyway, it'll probably be between James and Kaysar for HOH. They both have strong motivations to win. Can't wait to stay posted ;)

And BTW, I simply cannot take Janelle and Ivette anymore. PLEASE have one of them leave this week!


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MikeQ. wrote:
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Gonna be a long night on the feeds! It sucks that you have to wait for two more people in order to leave the box.. a lot of negotiating and bitching will ensue!


Will you keep us (or at least the ones who like to read the spoilers before the show) posted on who let's go of their button/leaves as it goes on, if you're ever watching the feeds? I appreciate it.

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Of course! :) Everyone is still there though.. and Howie just flashed them all lol. April and Jen already discussed letting go though, but said they can't right now because everyone on their side will be pissed at them. My guess is that they'll be off soon.


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Spoilers: In the live feed before the show Maggie was telling Ivette and Beau that they need to put up Rachel and James this week if they won and if James won POV to then put Howie. That is why it was so stupid for Howie to make the deal he got nothing out of it, but weakened his team. All 9 are still standing as I type. I think James is going to try and work on Kaysar, that is why he got the spot next to him so they can talk late into the night. Rachel is next to Kaysar and Howie is patrolling the area. My wife said James will shit his pants before he leaves the room. We shall see.

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Spoilers:Sorry, I couldn't see very well it seems as if Ivette and James have sandwiched Kaysar, Rachel is on the other side. Everyone is still standing no changes. Howie is trying to get them to stop and just let someone win. James stated he wouldn't let go even if one of the suprise boxes allowed Sara to come back. I would vote Howie out after this no matter whose team I was on strategy be damned, all he does is talk incessantly, what a fucking bore (probably part of his strategy, but he should pay for being so asinine). Right now they are arguing over whether you get $750 a week (which each contestant get for each week they are on the show) if you win April states you don't, everyone else states you do. They were asking Kaysar if we was getting paid the week he was sequestered, then the feed went out. It goes out quite often, it is really a rip-off, but what the hell.

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Spoilers- Beau's out-his knee touched the ground, so he is the first one out. The feed went out right before and right after so I am not sure if it was planned (I think not he was upet). 02:30 EST Howie opened a box w/dead fish in it. At 03:00 EST everyone was informed the pantry was stocked and anyone could eat that wanted (very appealing to the friendship that were on PB). One of the boxes has a plasma TV and another has a margarita bar, so there are some good prizes.

Howie took the food out of the pantry and was ruining it in front of the other contestants. Howie is on his fourth beer and I have never seen him so obnoxious talking about people's sexual organs, going around asking all the women if they have had anal sex. I can't believe what an idiot he is. Does he not realize millions in N. America sees these feeds? I am sure his parents are so proud. Everyone who sees the live feed is shocked at how much of an ass he really is (I guess Eric was just as bad in a different way). They both suffer from a complete lack of self-esteem which is sad since they are the oldest contestants. I really thought Howie was amusing just watching the show, but he is just a creep.

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Beau is the first out.. kneeling down, his knee touching the ground. He picked a box, forgot which color, and he received the martini bar. He has proceeded to get trashed.


Janelle is also out of the competition now.. April, I think, said "Let's dance" and Janelle started wiggling and her finger slipped off. She picked the red box and received the plasma TV with a netflix subscription. They've been at it for 7 hrs and 25 min


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Spoilers-Jen beat Kaysar

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