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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15475 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Jack Sparrow wrote: Everything in posts with disagreement is fine but forum guidelines forbid threats. To elaborate: your claims about “threats” are irrelevant since they can’t possibly, and won’t possibly change any outcome. The only thing that could be changed is further severe punishment and consequences for you, Shack, and excel. Furthermore, I have no power to change these outcomes, punishments, or consequences. They are unavoidable results of your bad decisions. They exist, and are effective, no matter what I say or do. My words and offers are acts of pity. I reserve the right to rewrite your forum rules if you continue non-compliance. To be explicit: your forum rules are simply required to comply.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15475 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Jack Sparrow wrote: Everything in posts with disagreement is fine but forum guidelines forbid threats. Also; there were no “disagreements”. I’m not required to explain (my explanations are sufficient for all relevant purposes), but I’m right and anyone who claims to “disagree” is wrong. You can try to “disagree” with 2+2=4, but your opinion on that would be irrelevant in mathematics and reality.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15475 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Jack Sparrow wrote: Everything in posts with disagreement is fine but forum guidelines forbid threats. Also, since you really have no practical alternative or choice but to comply with my rules, they will override and be prioritized over your rules at any conflict; the nuance of my rules will be prioritized.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15475 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
DP07 wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Everything in posts with disagreement is fine but forum guidelines forbid threats. To elaborate: your claims about “threats” are irrelevant since they can’t possibly, and won’t possibly change any outcome. The only thing that could be changed is further severe punishment and consequences for you, Shack, and excel. Furthermore, I have no power to change these outcomes, punishments, or consequences. They are unavoidable results of your bad decisions. They exist, and are effective, no matter what I say or do. My words and offers are acts of pity. I reserve the right to rewrite your forum rules if you continue non-compliance. To be explicit: your forum rules are simply required to comply. In other words: it’s already too late to change these outcomes or processes.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15475 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Post about Trump (EDIT: and Trump’s attempted assassination and future death and opinions about) “god” moved.
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32573 Location: the last free city
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32573 Location: the last free city
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32573 Location: the last free city
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11578 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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So is this ending citizenship for people who have legal citizenship here and legal in another country? I am confused
Edit: there appears to be no news reports on this and I checked his twitter and saw nothing. So that must be fake
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21447 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Rev has posted fake stuff here many times.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40217
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Deporting MS-13 gang member ("Maryland father" story) seems more defendable move than doing it for people protesting Israel.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Wasn’t the father an admitted mistake though? Like he was not a gang member and now they are saying they can’t do anything because he is now on foreign soil
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32573 Location: the last free city
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21447 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Fine won FL-06 by more than Parsons won FL-01 lol.
Even if Republicans lose the supreme court election in WI, looks like the Voter ID amendment might still pass, proving that it has bipartisan support and Democrats are only opposed to it cuz it hurts their chances of winning
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Wasn’t the father an admitted mistake though? Like he was not a gang member and now they are saying they can’t do anything because he is now on foreign soil The people desperate for a Trump is deporting innocent people scandal are just looking for any breathing room they can find in it like "maybe the immigration judge who said he was MS-13 could have been wrong".
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Darth Indiana Bond
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I am confused. Didn’t they openly admit they accidentally deported the wrong person, but are now claiming it is too late to do anything about it. Even Joe Rogan said this fucked up
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Seems like
- Illegal immigrant gets caught and has trial in 2019 where it's ruled he is MS-13 member and danger to society and should be deported.
- He successfully appeals that if he gets deported to El Salvador his life is in danger from gangs targeting his family or something, presumably why he ran away in first place, so they don't have a country to deport him to for years.
- Current admin sends him to El Salvador even though they weren't supposed to.
In the end it appears a human trafficking MS-13 guy got thrown to the dogs in El Salvador... if he got a little screwed process wise, I'm not shedding a tear.
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6317 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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With ICE basically literally kidnapping random foreign citizens and disappearing them into black sites out of the country and blatantly refusing to bring them back and ignoring court orders, the US is quickly sliding into being a totalitarian fascist state. I just don't see how anyone could refute it. They literally kidnapped a man with protected legal status as a refugee and disappeared him to a brutal mega prison in El Salvador where men sit in crowded cells for 23 hours per day without even blankets, a literal hell on earth and worst kind of psychological and physical torture, and are now refusing to bring him back.
I will not be stepping one foot in there until Republicans are out of power and this sort of thing stops happening. I would much rather go to Europe on holiday anyway.
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6317 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Shack wrote: Seems like
- Illegal immigrant gets caught and has trial in 2019 where it's ruled he is MS-13 member and danger to society and should be deported.
- He successfully appeals that if he gets deported to El Salvador his life is in danger from gangs targeting his family or something, presumably why he ran away in first place, so they don't have a country to deport him to for years.
- Current admin sends him to El Salvador even though they weren't supposed to.
In the end it appears a human trafficking MS-13 guy got thrown to the dogs in El Salvador... if he got a little screwed process wise, I'm not shedding a tear. "if he got a little screwed process wise" well that's one way to handwave away the cornerstone of any free democratic country Without due process, all it takes is the government claiming you are this or that and they don't have to prove it in order to disappear you. That is how totalitarian states operate. Trump is setting the precedent that non-citizens don't have any rights in America. That means that all it takes is the government claiming you are a non-citizen, they don't even have to prove it. "But I have a passport! I have a family! A lawyer! Social media", they do not seem to care. Stalin's government didn't care. Hitler's didn't care. Mao's didn't care. Call me an alarmist if you want. But I would rather look at reality for what it is. Kidnapping students on a legal visa, legal refugees, disappearing them, holding them in cells for weeks, abducting them to a mega prison in a third world country with no trial (how can you not see how insane this is??) is terrifying and exactly the kind of thing that totalitarian states are made of. You know that meme of 'first they came for...'? This is how it starts.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40217
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Barrabás wrote: Shack wrote: Seems like
- Illegal immigrant gets caught and has trial in 2019 where it's ruled he is MS-13 member and danger to society and should be deported.
- He successfully appeals that if he gets deported to El Salvador his life is in danger from gangs targeting his family or something, presumably why he ran away in first place, so they don't have a country to deport him to for years.
- Current admin sends him to El Salvador even though they weren't supposed to.
In the end it appears a human trafficking MS-13 guy got thrown to the dogs in El Salvador... if he got a little screwed process wise, I'm not shedding a tear. "if he got a little screwed process wise" well that's one way to handwave away the cornerstone of any free democratic country Without due process, all it takes is the government claiming you are this or that and they don't have to prove it in order to disappear you. That is how totalitarian states operate. Trump is setting the precedent that non-citizens don't have any rights in America. That means that all it takes is the government claiming you are a non-citizen, they don't even have to prove it. "But I have a passport! I have a family! A lawyer! Social media", they do not seem to care. Stalin's government didn't care. Hitler's didn't care. Mao's didn't care. You know that meme of 'first they came for...'? This is how it starts. I haven't seen any argument on the other side that should be taken more seriously than 2019 ruling by immigration judge that he's MS-13. Most of the people on social media trying to post the angle that he's innocent or claim the judge was only basing it on tattoos, are the same types that would take a multiple violent felony BLM case guy that got shot and post "He was an angel" with a picture of him as a sweet teen from 10 years ago or with his family. Plus the left wing media in the US is no less biased than Fox News these days. And if this admin has decided non-citizens don't get the same rights, are they wrong to? It doesn't mean they should be torturing them on their own soil, but this is basically just giving them to El Salvador and saying do whatever you want with them.
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6317 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Shack wrote: Barrabás wrote: Shack wrote: Seems like
- Illegal immigrant gets caught and has trial in 2019 where it's ruled he is MS-13 member and danger to society and should be deported.
- He successfully appeals that if he gets deported to El Salvador his life is in danger from gangs targeting his family or something, presumably why he ran away in first place, so they don't have a country to deport him to for years.
- Current admin sends him to El Salvador even though they weren't supposed to.
In the end it appears a human trafficking MS-13 guy got thrown to the dogs in El Salvador... if he got a little screwed process wise, I'm not shedding a tear. "if he got a little screwed process wise" well that's one way to handwave away the cornerstone of any free democratic country Without due process, all it takes is the government claiming you are this or that and they don't have to prove it in order to disappear you. That is how totalitarian states operate. Trump is setting the precedent that non-citizens don't have any rights in America. That means that all it takes is the government claiming you are a non-citizen, they don't even have to prove it. "But I have a passport! I have a family! A lawyer! Social media", they do not seem to care. Stalin's government didn't care. Hitler's didn't care. Mao's didn't care. You know that meme of 'first they came for...'? This is how it starts. I haven't seen any argument on the other side that should be taken more seriously than 2019 ruling by immigration judge that he's MS-13. Most of the people on social media trying to post the angle that he's innocent or claim the judge was only basing it on tattoos, are the same types that would take a multiple violent felony BLM case guy that got shot and post "He was an angel" with a picture of him as a sweet teen from 10 years ago or with his family. Plus the left wing media in the US is no less biased than Fox News these days. And if this admin has decided non-citizens don't get the same rights, are they wrong to? It doesn't mean they should be torturing them on their own soil, but this is basically just giving them to El Salvador and saying do whatever you want with them. ??? Yes???? Non-citizens have rights! They've always had rights. You are still a human being for fuck's sake. The US constitution still grants due process to any non-citizen. Like are you crazy? And you don't think it's insane to deport someone, I mean kidnap, to a third world prison hellhole without any trial or evidence or due process??? You need to have your head examined I'm sorry
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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They fucked up and should probably be at least trying to get him back from El Salvador more than they are. But ultimately, assuming he is MS-13 and I don't see a reason not to at this point, there are worse results that have happened.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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This is going to seriously hurt tourism in our country as you never know if you’re going to be kidnapped and shipped off to a dungeon somewhere to rot for just offending the president without a trial. Even if you are innocent.
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Alex Y.
Top Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:47 pm Posts: 5811
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So traditionally, Democrats were the ones in support of tariffs while Republicans supported free trade. Anyone have a positive spin on today?
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Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:26 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40217
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Personally I think being anti illegal immigrant and pro legal immigrant make the most sense. Mahmoud Khalil's situation to me feels worse as he had legal green card, but they justified it as saying "If he was a guy known for disrupting colleges with anti Israel protests in other countries and then applied for a green card here, we would say no to him. So since he came here claiming it was to learn and then did that, it's our right to take away his green card". But it is a slippery slope that mainly amounts to the Republicans really having a hard-on for Israel.
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