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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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 Re-Orginization
Ok. I am going to propose some changes. Please let me know your thoughts.
Sports > Merged into The Water Cooler
Literature, Music, DVD, TV, Gaming > Merged into The Corner Store
This would be a new forum, a forum where you can discuss everything related to those 5. Should be a rather active and informitive forum on par with The Water Cooler.
Surreal Life (containing The Water Cooler and Sports) would then have the forum The Corner Store added to it.
This would be just to get rid of one of the sub categories.
Earthen would finally be merged into The Corner Store where it can die its long awaited death.
Suggestions? Comments?
KJ
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:07 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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NO! :evil:
Leave it the way it is!!
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:09 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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I don't know. First of all, let Earthen go. Completely. About The Corner Store, I don't really like the idea. It will get a bit messy in that section with a bunch of different topics all happening in one section. I don't really want the Sports to be merged with Water Cooler, either. I don't really mind the subcategories, anyways.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:10 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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well sorry i didnt extend my comment
i feel the same way as Zing, The Corner Store yes it will get a lot messy with five different topics!
sports and water cooler....... :? i just dont know about that, but i dont like it!
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:14 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Merging Sports with the Water Cooler is fine by me. However, merging Music, DVD, Literature, TV and Gaming together...no, I do not really like that.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:24 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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This would make it wayyyy to messy. Leave it the way it is, but get rid of Earthen.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:24 pm |
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dolcevita
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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My arguement. We have discussed this, is that I've noticed a move towards "browsing" and that people tend not to go out of the way to peak into each forum individually. There are several forums here that will be painfully slow due to the diversity of content. Literture is so broad, that the chances of more than 1 or 2 people having read the same book (unless its a biggie) is minimal. At BOM, the forum would go days without a post.
Why I suggested "The Corner Store." These are all items that are purchaseable. So, in theory, if you browse in there, and something peaks your interest, you can go down to the corner and purchase it (so to speak). Great discussion about a special edition dvd? Go check it out at the store? Some interesting stuff about a book? Go check it out at the store. An interesting album generates alot of enthusiasm? Ditto. I think it will open up a richer forum than any of them individually, and allows for people that wouldn't go specifically to a forum to still occasionally glance in and put their two cents when they recognize a title, etc. It builds for more inclusive discussions and more faces on the page.
This is the same reason we kept politics in the water cooler. Because we sensed a large request for that when I asked.
As to merging Corner Store with Cooler, for that I would say no. That really would be way to much, and threads would be dropping off the front page in the matter of minutes. Few people browse more than a page back.
As for Sports, perhaps it should be merged with TV for a seperate forum for everything that relates to semi-permanent usership (weekly games, weekly shows, etc) in contrast to object based discussions (DVD, Music, Books, and Video Games).
Am I making any sense? 
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:25 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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 Re: Re-Orginization
Eagle wrote: Ok. I am going to propose some changes. Please let me know your thoughts.
Sports > Merged into The Water Cooler
Literature, Music, DVD, TV, Gaming > Merged into The Corner Store
This would be a new forum, a forum where you can discuss everything related to those 5. Should be a rather active and informitive forum on par with The Water Cooler.
Surreal Life (containing The Water Cooler and Sports) would then have the forum The Corner Store added to it.
This would be just to get rid of one of the sub categories.
Earthen would finally be merged into The Corner Store where it can die its long awaited death.
Suggestions? Comments?
KJ
I'd keep literature and TV as is, maybe broaden literature a bit like "Books, graphic novels and literature" or something similar so that people can feel free to talk about Shakespeare or Captain America. I'd eliminate Music and Gaming.
I suggest add a trailers and rumors section, both those together. Maybe call it "Upcoming Movies" or something similar, with subheading "trailers, news and rumors." Or something like that.
Just my .02 to add to the mix.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:25 pm |
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Squee
Squee
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:01 pm Posts: 13270 Location: Yuppieville
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Meh, I like having one forum dedicated soley to videogames. Its my passion.
Videogames are AWESOME and deserve their own forum! That's what I say!!
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:28 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Archie, that would really really kill the general movie forum.
my 2 cents has always been that everything related to movies (cept the numbers) should just belong in a general movie section, even the dvd part of it : )
my 2 shillings.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:29 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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archie, why do you want to eliminate Music and Gaming?
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:31 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Nny wrote: Meh, I like having one forum dedicated soley to videogames. Its my passion.
Videogames are AWESOME and deserve their own forum! That's what I say!!
Videogame should go but I do understand what you mean. Its prolly the only forum that has the best conversations and discussion. the other forums are nothing compared to it!
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:33 pm |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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l think DVD should go with Movies, as really, what are DVDs but Movies on disc; BO Games with Box Office, makes sense to me...the general quiz type things could go in water Cooler; and TV, Lit., Sports, Music and Video Games all in the Water Cooler...
of course, this could make it one big mess of confusion...but...yknow...
or maybe instead of merging those 4 with Water Cooler, take those 4 and Quiz Show and make like a General Entertainment forum...
or keep each forum seperate but do something like:
Entertainment (click)
>DVD
>TV
>Lit.
>Sports
>Video Games
as subforums....or somein....that way it kinda clears the clutter of the main page, but all the forums still exist...
or you could not listen to a word l type...thats what l would do if l were you

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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:39 pm |
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Squee
Squee
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:01 pm Posts: 13270 Location: Yuppieville
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bABA wrote: Nny wrote: Meh, I like having one forum dedicated soley to videogames. Its my passion.
Videogames are AWESOME and deserve their own forum! That's what I say!! Videogame should go but I do understand what you mean. Its prolly the only forum that has the best conversations and discussion. the other forums are nothing compared to it!
But just think of the clash of personalities that will be had if gaming is put together with music and the others. I mean, can you imagine it? The videogame posters having to gather in the same forum as the music posters? It'll be a total culture clash! CHAOS WILL ENSUE!!
_________________Setting most people on fire is wrong.Proud Founder of the "Community of Squee." 
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:50 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Each person that goes to different forums would want the ones they don't go to to be merged into something else. Personally I think Literature should merge into something else because I don't go to it. But I understand people do so I'm not gonna fight for that to happen. I do go to the Sports forum a lot so I don't want it to be merged into something else. I think everything is fine as it is. But don't make suggestions leaving out something just because you like to go to it and don't like to go to other ones.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:52 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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Here's what I think...
1. DVD should go into the Movies section. Seems like a good idea.
2. Video Games needs to stay. Lots of good discussions going on there, and it doesn't really fit anywhere else.
3. Literature should go into The Water Cooler
4. TV, Box Office Bash, Music, Awards, Overseas, Sports and Your Take are all fine.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:54 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I think that merhing all of them together would cause a chaos...a very unpleasant one.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:55 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Literature has only been alive a couple of days and already showing more signs of life than DVD or Video Games so I don't see why it should be changed, at least not yet.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:58 pm |
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lovemerox
Forum General
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:16 pm Posts: 6499 Location: Down along the dixie line
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I think that merhing all of them together would cause a chaos...a very unpleasant one.
I agree. I woud not move anything into the Water Cooler. Its busy enough as it is, and as Dolce said if we moved to much in there, threads would be dropping off the page in minutes.
I kinda like the idea of "corner stone," but I also like having each forum to itself.
Perhaps we could combine just Literature with something, so more people would read/look at it.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:03 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Do NOT combine 5 forums into one. That is just not a good idea. Sorry to who proposed it, but it will cause too much messy stuff.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:41 pm |
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dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Meh. Won't be nearly as messy as everyone anticipates. Look at how many threads and posts cooler has...if we merged video games, books, dvds, and probably also music, we'd still have under 200 threads and 3000 posts to date. That's even less than Box Office Forum combined. Those forums really don't get that many hits per day. Sports shouldn't gointo cooler, I think if we do move it, it should go into t.v.
Its all good if people want to keep them seperate. We just thought after hearing people think shifting off the politics from cooler was a bad idea because it didn't allow for browsing, that people were actually interested in merging them. If not, we won't, its you guys' forum.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:47 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Well,
I disagree for various reasons Mr. X. I browse all the forums. The TV, Music, DVD, Sports, Literature, and Gaming tend to have 2 to 3 active threads a day. The rest dont get touched.
These forums each have their own smaller base of readers. Not everyone views them all. Some people will go to the Music and not the DVD. Others will go to Sports and DVD but not Literature. Combining them all brings everyone in, and could in general enhance the discussion in them all.
It would create another great forum, that would be viewed by so many, would be very active, and filled with interesting information.
Now,
This is what is settled: Earthen is gone.
This is what is up for discussion:
Sports moving into Water Cooler.
Music, Lit, TV, and Gaming going into a NEW forum that would be Located in Surreal Life (the same section that Water Cooler is in, but it own forum).
DVD moves to movies, or the new forum, or stays as is.
I understand how alot of you think that it could get too messy ... But I disagree, I think it would be active, and informative, as well as draw in more people.
Box office games would remain a seperate category mainly for the ammount of stickies it requires.
Discuss! It's your guys forum ... lets talk about it with :Respect:
KJ
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:56 pm |
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lovemerox
Forum General
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:16 pm Posts: 6499 Location: Down along the dixie line
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I disagree with sports going into Water cooler.
I think we should leave sports alone, and PERHAPS combine the others...music, lit, ect....
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:38 pm |
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lovemerox
Forum General
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Im just afraid threads wil lget pushed down....to busy if we combine everything
I dunno
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:39 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Threads could, but they do now in water cooler as well. You can fit almost 30 threads on a page, that is PLENTY.
There is also nothing wrong with going to page 2 to bump up a thread!
KJ
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:53 pm |
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