Oh, so now I'm a bad mod? Like seriously, Maverikk, what the hell. It doesn't bother me personally that someone went onto a poll on the INTERNET and voted an F. Sorry if I'm not as obsessed about little things as you are. In this situation, you clearly started the problem by commenting where you didn't need to comment. You're consistantly saying in this very thread how torrino is "starting shit," but that's exactly what you did in the V for Vendetta thread. neo_wolf voted in the poll. He saw the movie, he liked it, but he voted an F in the poll. Is that any of your concern? No. Does that entitle you the right to bring neo_wolf's religion into the mix? No. Is it neo_wolf's right to vote in the poll? Yes. Do I condone that neo_wolf is voting in polls for no reason? Honestly, I couldn't care less. I don't like it, but you think I care so much that I'm going to call out neo_wolf and his religion? TONS of people have done the exact same thing on this board.

Did neo_wolf start the situation with you? No. Here is the post that started the situation, and not too surprising as to who started it...



...and of course, neo_wolf is called out, so he replies and questions why he's a bad Christian for voting improperly in the poll, and you reply with:



You can turn the tables all you want. You can continue to try and change the subject to torrino's past, you can throw the blame on me for "not caring" if neo_wolf likes to vote F on polls - you can do all that. But you're just hiding behind your wall because you're not willing to admit that in this situation, you were clearly wrong in what you did. You had no reason for anything you did. None. You have no justification whatsoever for a) starting shit with neo_wolf over an internet poll, and b) attacking him and calling him a bad Christian because he voted without seeing the film.

NO JUSTIFICATION.

(and for the record, I, too, have voted an 'F' on a poll for a movie without seeing it. I don't remember which one, it was quite a long time ago, but I know that I've done it before. Guess I'm a sinner...)

You guys are quick to despise each other and call for each other's punishment stating how obnoxious both of you are. Ever asked yourself how come that I am in very good standings with both of you then if apparently you consider each other terrible posters? Ever thought that you might need to reconsider your own own opinions and actions?

Well, mine was a typo, yours was another attempt to insult. I have a better idea. Why don't you just stop following me around like you do? Is that hard for you to do or something? This has really gone on way too long with your constant trailing after me and insults and looking for reasons to start trouble.

Hel, you have nerve even telling me anything about accepting responsibility. You even tried to blame me for you getting demodded. Yes, DA TORRI, I'm the reason your life is so bad. You would be in such a better position in life if it wasn't for that pesky Maverikk. He ruins your life. Seriously, do yourself a favor and quit following me around. I definitely have never had a problem following you around and making unprovoked comments all the time, but it's a serious issue with you.

There are many things wrong about this post.

Personally I don't know/care what Mavs been up to now. Hes been okay to me recently. But i dont think its right for site admins to be telling users how they should be acting?

Hey Mav, Couldn't it have beena harmless joke and not an insult.

Then under your rules.........it would be OK.

Right?

Zingy, how convenient of you to forget that neo_wolf called me a "sissy". How convienent that you NEVER ONCE commented on the times he's started shit with me, like creating accounts just to insult me.

You would be surprised how credible you would come off if you didn't just grandstand when it was certain members, and that's what you do.

This is fucking ridiculous. No, seriously.

Yes, as soon as this thread was created it was obvious that it would become what it has. The same thing we've seen more times then I could count. I mean, what's the point of even responding now? If you've made your point then there's not need to keep trying to get your word in. You're not going to convince the other person, the people reading the thread have already seen enough to know what they think of it, and I think the admins have enough information. All it will do is leave people wondering why you're involved in this. Just let the admins deal with the situation. There's no good reason for this thread to keep going....but it does.

No, you see, when you're in a thread that was created to start trouble, like this one was, common sense should tell anybody that it's not just a friendly little ribbing, especially since he started the thread.

If Lecter would have said it to me, it would have obviously been him just playing, but if Lecter said it to you, he wouldn't have been. Wasn't this just covered in my banning thread, when it was established that members who are close to the administrators can tell them to fuck off anytime they want to? It's the same principle applied here.

Actually it is just another NORMAL day on good ole KJ.

Until the rules start to become understood / enforced better ...................

Lecter, I don't think I was harsh at all in this thread.



I agree, and you know what I'm going to do about it? I'm going to go back to doing what I enjoy doing, which doesn't include talking to or reading any of DA TORRI'S posts. I seriously wish somebody would have a talk with him and convince him to quit having any interest in my posts.

@ Maverikk

We had said this before, debating with someone for giving a movie an F is fine, but calling some a bad Christian was very uncalled for.

As for the Goldie situation, you just barely got away with it without getting a warning (from me that is). So in terms of warning, I have to leave this up to Krem. (as for me, I see this was just barely below the line).

@ da torri

I know you were trying to report a post, but this was not the way to report. And then starting an argument mav was very uncalled for. And calling someone Mavadikk was highly unnecessary. Also, if you want to report a post, please use the report button and Krem or I will look at it. We don't need to start any threads about it. In fact, if anyone deserved a warning, it would be you (once again, I will leave this up to Krem).

Bottom line: stop fighting.

Would neo_wolf have called you a sissy in the V for Vendetta thread if you had not called him a bad Christian and started this whole crap? neo_wolf should be punished for something he didn't start? That's like saying that if a bully comes up to you in school and tries to beat the living crap out of you, you should lay down and take it. And is this anything new for you? When someone calls you out (like torrino), do you not reply back with attacks, accusations, and the works?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Hypocritical stuff.

A similar situation occured a few weeks back with Goldie and Jeff(S). Everyone knows that I'm not on the best terms with Goldie, but Jeff(S) called Goldie out for no reason at all. Goldie might have responded harshly, but he had every reason to because he was defending himself. What did I do? I broke it up and told Jeff(S) that it was uncalled for. Goldie didn't get penalized for simply defending himself.

Once again, you're trying to turn the tables on everyone else instead of talking responsibility for your actions. Should I be surprised, though? Nah.

And it doesn't surprise me that you take that position, as you always show favoritism toward your friends. Are you a bad moderator? Definitely. Did I reply and attack and make accusations toward anybody that was unfounded? Isn't it funny how THAT's my fault, even though it wouldn't have happened if torrino didn't start, but you have a completely different stance on the same situation when it involves me "starting". You were saying something about being hypocritical? Am I surprised? Not at all.

IMO, I am OK with this and I am glad that the ADM / site has noted that these EXTRA comments are un-needed and won't be allowed or tolerated.

Honestly, I think this thread was unneeded. What Maverikk did was bad, but it wasn't *that* bad. It probably should have been handled privately by the mods, their decision.

With that being said, the fault of blowing this out of porportion is completley one-sided on Maverikk's side. Flipping out into post after post of criticizing and slamming the moderators and da torri's previous happenings here isn't a smart thing to do, especially when it has nothing to do with the topic itself. Torri has made about 2-3 posts in this thread, none as severe and obnoxious as Mav's loads. If you were really trying to defend that this wasn't a big deal, the way to go would've been a friendly "Hey, it's not that big of a deal. I was mostly joking, I'm sorry neo/Goldie and administrators." One post, then Eagle and bABA can let the thread die without much hassle.

Speaking of bannings, wasn't Shack told that he'd get banned if he continued this type of stuff one more time? There has been 6 unprovoked comments from him directed at me since then. There have been threads started with intent to ridicule. There have been comments made about things I posted and said that were lies. I've let every one of them go without so much as a word.

Perhaps I should contact the administrator with links?

mav .. please .. eagle and i commented in the manner this thread was started. neither of us have made vocal our own personal opinion on what torrino had to actually say. all we wanted to point out was that starting a thread about pointing out someone's maturity won't earn any respect if the thread itself is created in an immature manner.

Edited

Decided not to fuel Mav's fire. Arguing with him is useless. I think his attitude speaks for itself in this thread.

Off-topic, Zing, but since we have touched upon the topic...

I was absent when what you described above happened, but I came back and re-read the thing. I don't think it was handled all that well. Jeff was reprimanded, but what about Goldie calling out Dolce on her "constant bad moderating decisions"? What about him calling out each and every awards that are organized here? Did Dolce have anything to do with the thing at all? If you want to be fair, then be fair and not only semi-fair.

This is flat out highlarious, flat out

Uh DUH! Because I asked for it! I always get what I want

Well, I did tell Goldie that his comment to dolcevita was uncalled for, if you look back. And I believe he accepted that. I think I was fair to both Jeff(S) and Goldie by a) telling them to cool off, b) telling Goldie that his comment was uncalled for, as dolce was just commenting and didn't deserve to be attacked, and c) telling Jeff(S) that he had no reason to get involved.

Okay guys, I can settle this once and for all.

da torri.

I know that being fresh out of a warning, things could be different, but those comments about Mav was not necessary at all. And no, I am not trying to be one sided, this is how I see the situation. You think I am one-sided? Then, wouldn't Zing be taking your side?

Mav.

I know people give you crap, and you try to defend yourself, but calling people names is not a way of defending yourself. If anyone begins to bother you, please report it to either me or Krem.

Also, I am not angry with either of you, just concerned with how you two are behaving. I will let you both go this one time, but if it happens again, a warning may be issued.

End of Discussion.

I have come to the point where i just laugh off mav's posts,mav may think he pissed me off with that second post to me but i just felt pity for him,it really is sad seeing how worked up he gets.