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Maverikk
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 Marvel's Movie Plans!
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:45 pm |
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bABA
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Umm ... Marvel is lying there. Theres an ironman project as well plus a few more. And wasnt there news for Thor as well?
Punisher did not get killed by Kill Bill
Honestly, I think Marvel is overdoing it.
Keep spidey and X-men. As much as I'd like to see Sub Mariner, I'm not sure if the audiences are ready to see yet another character. Punisher2, Hulk2 and Daredevil .... just choose 1. You're overkilling everything!
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:01 pm |
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El Maskado
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I would like to see an Iron Man movie. That means I could unpack my Ironman underoos from 20-something years ago and when the movie gets popular,I'll sell those Underoos at ebay
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:24 pm |
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Schlomo
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Well, I would personally love to see a Punisher 2...and I have a feeling it will be a hit because it sold so well on DVD.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:25 pm |
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Rev
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PUNISHER 2: A script is finished. They did bad in the box-office, because of KILL BILL 2, said Arad.
 YEAH RIGHT! boxoffice was bad cause the movie SUKED!!
let's hope the 2nd one is better. :wink:
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:35 pm |
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El Maskado
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Punisher did get killed by Kill Bill. Anyone doubting it should go back to the threads a year ago when Punisher was moved towards Kill Bill's week, alot of people were saying that it was a stupid idea because both movies catered to the same audience. They were both action flicks with an R rating and pretty much have a built in cult audience. Anyone saying different otherwise just wants to hate on the Punisher. Dont tell me differently that the Punisher wouldnt of done a bit better if it didnt square off against Kill Bill
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:40 pm |
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Maverikk
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bABA wrote: Umm ... Marvel is lying there. Theres an ironman project as well plus a few more. And wasnt there news for Thor as well?
Punisher did not get killed by Kill Bill
Honestly, I think Marvel is overdoing it.
Keep spidey and X-men. As much as I'd like to see Sub Mariner, I'm not sure if the audiences are ready to see yet another character. Punisher2, Hulk2 and Daredevil .... just choose 1. You're overkilling everything!
In fairness, they have more than 2 characters to play with.
Sub Mariner would be an awesome underwater live action adventure, especially if they stick to their plans of a trilogy. Daredevil is unfortunately taking a rest, and they'll ressurrect the franchise someday with a new actor. Hulk 2 will be a smash 'em up action fest for the video game heads, unfortunately. Iron Man is not on the fast track and neither is Thor. Probably a good 3 or 4 years away at least.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:41 pm |
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bABA
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Maverikk, its not about 2 characters to play with. Its about an overdose.
Think about it. You love Thor and Submariner but how much of today's generation knows about them?? Based upon that, you think they'll greenlight these with a massive budget? They'll treat them much the way they treated Punisher. B Grade characters. ANd yes, I know Punisher is no B Grade but today, Submariner is less known to the normal person than the punisher or even daredevil. i really think even Hulk will only survive if they dumb the entire thing down for a sequel.
Your submariner underwater fest sounds great ... but good luck getting what you're looking for .. they wont throw the money at it. Its good to stick to 2 or 3 .. no more. THe rest will only work in a "constantine" way (not in terms of quality) where the movie does not require to be given a comic book feel, much like how Blde began.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:30 pm |
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Maverikk
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bABA wrote: Maverikk, its not about 2 characters to play with. Its about an overdose.
Think about it. You love Thor and Submariner but how much of today's generation knows about them?? Based upon that, you think they'll greenlight these with a massive budget? They'll treat them much the way they treated Punisher. B Grade characters. ANd yes, I know Punisher is no B Grade but today, Submariner is less known to the normal person than the punisher or even daredevil. i really think even Hulk will only survive if they dumb the entire thing down for a sequel.
Your submariner underwater fest sounds great ... but good luck getting what you're looking for .. they wont throw the money at it. Its good to stick to 2 or 3 .. no more. THe rest will only work in a "constantine" way (not in terms of quality) where the movie does not require to be given a comic book feel, much like how Blde began.
The Mask 2 was just put out with a budget of 85 million, so yes, I don't think budgets are as big a concern to studios, especially for a franchise type movie where video games and other merchandice, fast food tie ins, DVD sales, etc.... play into the big picture.
Marvel is a brand name now, so that will get attention, and comicbook fanboys all know who Thor and Submariner are. I don't think that matters, just the quality of the movie. A star or two wouldn't hurt either for the characters with lower visibility.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:43 pm |
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El Maskado
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The problem is finding a name people know to play the role of Thor. The guy has to look almost neaderthalist, very well built, over 200 lbs and at least 6'2. Too hard to find and we know how bad of an actor HHH was. I cant see anyone else who can fit that bill
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:47 pm |
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bABA
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Maverikk wrote: bABA wrote: Maverikk, its not about 2 characters to play with. Its about an overdose.
Think about it. You love Thor and Submariner but how much of today's generation knows about them?? Based upon that, you think they'll greenlight these with a massive budget? They'll treat them much the way they treated Punisher. B Grade characters. ANd yes, I know Punisher is no B Grade but today, Submariner is less known to the normal person than the punisher or even daredevil. i really think even Hulk will only survive if they dumb the entire thing down for a sequel.
Your submariner underwater fest sounds great ... but good luck getting what you're looking for .. they wont throw the money at it. Its good to stick to 2 or 3 .. no more. THe rest will only work in a "constantine" way (not in terms of quality) where the movie does not require to be given a comic book feel, much like how Blde began. The Mask 2 was just put out with a budget of 85 million, so yes, I don't think budgets are as big a concern to studios, especially for a franchise type movie where video games and other merchandice, fast food tie ins, DVD sales, etc.... play into the big picture. Marvel is a brand name now, so that will get attention, and comicbook fanboys all know who Thor and Submariner are. I don't think that matters, just the quality of the movie. A star or two wouldn't hurt either for the characters with lower visibility.
Mask 2 was also a sequel to a highly successful movie in an era where people are willing to dish out money for sequels. And it failed.
Thor, Submariner will be making their first movies and it comes back to the fact that being a bit less recognizable, I dont see any of these projects getting the proper respect from the studios nor the audience.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:53 pm |
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Maverikk
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bABA wrote: Mask 2 was also a sequel to a highly successful movie in an era where people are willing to dish out money for sequels. And it failed.
Thor, Submariner will be making their first movies and it comes back to the fact that being a bit less recognizable, I dont see any of these projects getting the proper respect from the studios nor the audience.
Mask featured Jim Carrey, and the sequel did not, so it's not the type of sequel that had the draw that the original did. People didn't go see the first because of the concept. That's why it failed.
Again, Marvel is a brand name. That will sell, and so will the fact that Marvel comics have a built in audience. The PG-13 ratings give much room for promotion, such as fast food tie ins and things that will get the kids into see it. Like I said, an actor who can draw people would help.
The Rock isn't a huge draw, but his movies do semi decent for small budgeted movies, so if you cast him as namor, and then put a star or two around him, a big budgeted underwater adventure like Submariner should have no problem selling. Doesn't mean it's gonna bust 200 million, but they make plenty in other ways that it could rake in the cash hand over fist.
Thor would need to have a fantasty look like LOTR. (after all, Tolkien did borrow heavily from Norse mythology in the first place) Doesn't need a star in the role of Thor, but it would be wise to support him with a few. With Thor, it would be best to shoot for a holiday opening, and not try for a crowded summer. It could do very well at the ticket office.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:21 pm |
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bABA
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Mav. .. you mean sell much like Elektra, like punisher?
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:56 pm |
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They would have to do something about the look of Thor for that movie to be successful I would think. Cause his current costume is... .... Its something alright.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:58 pm |
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Maverikk
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bABA wrote: Mav. .. you mean sell much like Elektra, like punisher?
Nope...
Elektra = spinoff from a movie with mixed reactions featuring female lead.
Punisher = R rated, which crippled it in promotions and merchandising.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:00 pm |
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Schlomo
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revolutions wrote: PUNISHER 2: A script is finished. They did bad in the box-office, because of KILL BILL 2, said Arad. YEAH RIGHT! boxoffice was bad cause the movie SUKED!! let's hope the 2nd one is better. :wink:
SCHLOMO MAD!!! SCHLOMO SMASH!!! :down:
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:23 pm |
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El Maskado
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I dont mean to be mean or disrespectful but I cant help but notice that Maverick's Clint Eastwood icon looks so much like Christopher Reeve when he shaved his head and on the wheelchair
Well Ill just run along
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:28 pm |
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The article says Fantastic Four is the "feel good movie of the summer".  Try advertising that.
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Maverikk
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I highlighted a few bits. Have no idea what Curious George has to do with marvel????
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050302d.php
Marvel Enterprises heads Avi Arad and Peter Cuneo presented an overview of the Company at the Bear Stearns 18th Annual Media Conference in Palm Beach, Florida yesterday and Marvel Gateway has taken down the important points about their movies in development from that meeting:
- The cast of the "Fantastic Four" movie is currently signed on for multiple films.
- "Ghost Rider" is definitely aiming for a PG-13 rating. Peter Fonda is officially signed on to play Mephisto. - For "X3" the cast is in and a director announcement should be coming soon.
- Jamie Foxx was being looked at for "Luke Cage" before his Oscar win. Foxx has now put his decision on hold and Avi says they're looking around.
- Director Nick Cassavetes is currently doing a rewrite of "Iron Man". Avi says it will be a "huge movie" and be like "G.I. Joe meets James Bond meets Tom Clancy."
- Set as a high priority at Paramount Pictures, "Deathlok" is Marvel's version of the Terminator. The movie is a go with one of the better scripts in town.
- Avi mentioned an "action television Blade show." A Blade TV series?
- "Punisher 2" wise they are finishing the script right now.
- A "Curious George" film is set to be released in Feb 2006 with Ron Howard and Brian Grazer producing. An animated television series of Curious George will debut in the Fall of 2006.
- "Daredevil" is in a period of rest right now as they're hoping for people to forget Elektra before moving on to a sequel.
- A deal is just about done with "Thor", and is considered a very big character yet to be touched.
- Marvel and Lions Gate Films will make animated films as previously announced, with Avengers being the first movie to be out in Q1 2006. Lions Gate will handle distribution with Marvel being the creative consultant. The movies will all be direct-to-video. The studio is currently developing a third now, which is expected to be Iron Man.
- AnteFilms Productions, a leading French animation producer, will produce a "Fantastic Four" animated television series with Marvel being a creative oversight and having part ownership.
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STEVE ROGERS
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: I dont mean to be mean or disrespectful but I cant help but notice that Maverick's Clint Eastwood icon looks so much like Christopher Reeve when he shaved his head and on the wheelchair
Well Ill just run along
BKB Sits back and gives much thought to Eastwood looking like Christopher Reeve and then see's the comparison and :lol:
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Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:12 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
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Maverikk wrote: I highlighted a few bits. Have no idea what Curious George has to do with marvel???? http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050302d.phpMarvel Enterprises heads Avi Arad and Peter Cuneo presented an overview of the Company at the Bear Stearns 18th Annual Media Conference in Palm Beach, Florida yesterday and Marvel Gateway has taken down the important points about their movies in development from that meeting: - The cast of the "Fantastic Four" movie is currently signed on for multiple films.- "Ghost Rider" is definitely aiming for a PG-13 rating. Peter Fonda is officially signed on to play Mephisto. - For "X3" the cast is in and a director announcement should be coming soon. - Jamie Foxx was being looked at for "Luke Cage" before his Oscar win. Foxx has now put his decision on hold and Avi says they're looking around. - Director Nick Cassavetes is currently doing a rewrite of "Iron Man". Avi says it will be a "huge movie" and be like "G.I. Joe meets James Bond meets Tom Clancy." - Set as a high priority at Paramount Pictures, "Deathlok" is Marvel's version of the Terminator. The movie is a go with one of the better scripts in town. - Avi mentioned an "action television Blade show." A Blade TV series? - "Punisher 2" wise they are finishing the script right now. - A "Curious George" film is set to be released in Feb 2006 with Ron Howard and Brian Grazer producing. An animated television series of Curious George will debut in the Fall of 2006. - "Daredevil" is in a period of rest right now as they're hoping for people to forget Elektra before moving on to a sequel. - A deal is just about done with "Thor", and is considered a very big character yet to be touched.- Marvel and Lions Gate Films will make animated films as previously announced, with Avengers being the first movie to be out in Q1 2006. Lions Gate will handle distribution with Marvel being the creative consultant. The movies will all be direct-to-video. The studio is currently developing a third now, which is expected to be Iron Man. - AnteFilms Productions, a leading French animation producer, will produce a "Fantastic Four" animated television series with Marvel being a creative oversight and having part ownership.
Now I realize that nowadays, no studio waits to see if their movie will be a hit enough to make a sequel, but you'd think they'd wait to see if The Fantastic Four would be a hit or a bomb before signing these folks up for 3 movies??? Quite frankly, I see LXG Numbers for The FF4 which doesn't warrant a sequel unless it's straight to video..
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Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:15 pm |
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Maverikk
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BKB_The_Man wrote: El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: I dont mean to be mean or disrespectful but I cant help but notice that Maverick's Clint Eastwood icon looks so much like Christopher Reeve when he shaved his head and on the wheelchair
Well Ill just run along BKB Sits back and gives much thought to Eastwood looking like Christopher Reeve and then see's the comparison and :lol:
It's actually funny that he said that, because I have thought that too. There was a picture that I posted from the DGA awards that first made me think he looked like Reeve.
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Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:45 pm |
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Maverikk
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Now I realize that nowadays, no studio waits to see if their movie will be a hit enough to make a sequel, but you'd think they'd wait to see if The Fantastic Four would be a hit or a bomb before signing these folks up for 3 movies??? Quite frankly, I see LXG Numbers for The FF4 which doesn't warrant a sequel unless it's straight to video..
Sounds like 20th Century Fox is pretty confident in the script and cast to me. \:D/
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How is Fantastic Four gonna do LXG #s? This isnt some no name movie, it's Fantastic Four, it has a decent fanbase and even people who arent fans of Fantastic Four and just know a bit about Fantastic Four would be interested in it. Expect a nice opening ( 40+mil) with a hefty drop the week after. It will finish with a bit more then Daredevil, probably around 110mil
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Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:16 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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Maverikk wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Now I realize that nowadays, no studio waits to see if their movie will be a hit enough to make a sequel, but you'd think they'd wait to see if The Fantastic Four would be a hit or a bomb before signing these folks up for 3 movies??? Quite frankly, I see LXG Numbers for The FF4 which doesn't warrant a sequel unless it's straight to video.. Sounds like 20th Century Fox is pretty confident in the script and cast to me. \:D/
Ahhh, but the real question is: Will the audience be as confident in this as FOX supposedly is??? To me, if they REALLY were confident in this movie, they never would've or should've moved it to July 11th instead of 4th of July weekend in going up against War of the Worlds..
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