So it seems that neither Town & Country or Heavens Gate are even in your Top 20.

Guess either you didn't do your homework enough, or you are stubborn/clueless or just ?????

PS. You can bring some people to the water but you can't make them drink it.

Is Thegun the clueless one now and forever?

If you're so bankrupt of a real life that you're criticizing someone's personal take on a film subject on the INTERNET, then I feel bad for you, sir.

To the above. Just trying to smarten him up as he wants to hang in the film commuinity. And there is nothing wrong with commenting on his list.

I commented on your films Grill, your reasoning is weaker than mine. Education over! The Crow was a very easy production other than Lee's death and using a double. Town and Country had a long ass delay (causing budget explosion, hardly worth mention), Heaven's Gate did not have a troubled production, only an overdrawn one. Jaws was a good one and just missed my top 10 (It had a shitload of technical problems thats it). Grow up. You keep saying your smartening me up, but your not giving any explanation as to why those films with smaller problems than my top 10 should be there.

I wanted to give you a chance. I will detail when I have a chance. And note when you said my choices were weaker, but you just admited you liked 3 out of my 6 movies that I picked off the top of my head while walking to the store. LOL!!!!

Not too bad a start!!!! And I will detail the others later in the week.

Very good thread, will read more tomorrow.

Didnt know much about the Superman II problems. Interesting read.

Good, I'm looking forward to not reading it.

Fine. Just goes to show that I was right about you. Loser. As you are just some punk who thinks he knows everything and doesn't want to take a chance to be shown up as being wrong.

I bet when you make it to Hollywood one day, you will be busing my table at some restaurant for tip money.

Eh no need for personal attacks Grill.
We were born with something called opinions you know.

Just reading #1 and #2 films on the list, Brando sure had an ego problem.
I'm just going to be ignorant here and ask was it justified?

These days it seems a lot of 'stars' demand a lot of cash when in reality their involvement means little to the film as a whole.
Surely there has to be some sort of limit on what they can demand.
In that sense I think Summit's decision to split Breaking Dawn is a terrible move.
Worst book, obviously a franchise that's more fad than fan in nature and having to pay 3, maybe 4-5 'stars' huge amounts of money to return to film. It's not like they are giving it their all either, apparently they just have a whale of a time going out to party til dawn, sleep something like two hours and go film. Sure it's a crappy film but they don't do much justice to the profession with such immaturity.

Whats so odd about Superman 2 is how good it turned out. Its still the 2nd best crowd pleaser of hte super hero genre behind only spiderman 1.

Why do some many only care about my personal attacks which only are after others come after me but no one cares about personal or disrespectful remarks towards me. Chip, Caius, Argos, Trisster, etc. For starters.

So whatever.

Nobody attacked you.

SHUT THE FUCK UP GRILL, SERIUOSLY.

Don't wink at Grill, he might get the wrong idea. Write whatever you want Grill, you wont change my Top 10, and no even only 22 I probably already have a better job then you.

BK, Brando really is in a league of his own. You'll never get an actor like that again. Much of the hollywood studio was changing by the time the 80s came along, notice Brando's pedigree fell apart after the 70s. I agree a lot of these films add another layer to the bad problems with how good they turned out. Superman II is still my favorite of the franchise (When Superman throws Zod into the Coke A Cola sign is the best superhero moment ever on screen for me, and it was a Richard Lester scene) Its one thing to have problems and be bad, but its another to actually survive and be still be considered a good film.

Lol at the clueless one who has considered every movie ever made as his list won't be changed.

He did.

And speaking of clueless ones. Here comes the post whore. As you sure aren't close to being an expert in every movie ever made.

Bored Argos. Just wait till the weekend.

What is it that you're are doing on the weekend? I know you do not have a girlfriend or a boyfriend, and paying doesn't count, and there is no way your employer would give you overtime. So what is it that you do?

So you playing dumb or are you just dumb?

As I was talking about your buddy Argos whose weekend always has been chasing my around KJ and responding to my threads.

Titanic is not that interesting, other than the PCP poisoned soup. Cameron's work ethic is always like that, and it just took a long time to build the set, causing a few delays.

No I got the jab at grill, I just like talking about all the films mentioned not on my list.

I didn't read the list - is Aguirre in there?

No and neither is Chimes at Midnight.