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Impressive argument..

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No wonder Mav gets mistaken for BKB sometimes... :lol:

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No wonder Mav gets mistaken for BKB sometimes... :lol:


Nazgul, you are the only one who has embarrassed himself by trolling this thread to bash Lucas and try to turn it into a Peter Jackson is the greatest thread. He's at Showest to :mirrorbow: to what his hero is once again doing to advance the industry. He knows his place when Lucas is in the room. He went to Lucas for help with LOTR. Cameron went to Lucas for help with his 3 D venture. Spielberg is using ILM for War of the Worlds. Only pathetic internet whiners with no credibility would even continue acting as if Lucas isn't sitting in the high seat. If that's a sore spot for you, I really don't care, but you're not doing yourself a service by continuing to act as if Peter Jackson is something great to the movie industry, while George Lucas' accomplishments are things that anybody would have done if he didn't. Even Peter Jackson would laugh (and lose respect for) you for even suggesting that. Anybody would a shred of sense is now fully aware of how you have none, so if you really think that bothers me, it doesn't surprise me, as only a person with no sense would think that too.


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I won't start arguing again with a person who's acting like a 12 year old offended child whenever someone's not sharing his opinion of Lucas being this allmighty movie god everyone has to bow to... speaking of licking balls... :roll:

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I would agree with Mav's argument in this instance, maybe not the wording of it but...

Jackson is all over the Star Wars DVDs jizzing about Star Wars and its themes.

Lucas' impact in the industry is so wide spread that I don't think we'll ever see an end to it.

As far as the advancement of technology goes, there is no other technology evangelist with his power and level save for maybe Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc.


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Nazgul9 wrote:
I won't start arguing again with a person who's acting like a 12 year old offended child whenever someone's not sharing his opinion of Lucas being this allmighty movie god everyone has to bow to... speaking of licking balls... :roll:


Well, then you can just move on to other threads while I lick whichever ball of George's that Peter doesn't have claim on. \:D/

The rest of us can discuss the actually subject of the thread, something Nazgul has never been able to do.


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addr0ck wrote:
I would agree with Mav's argument in this instance, maybe not the wording of it but...

Jackson is all over the Star Wars DVDs jizzing about Star Wars and its themes.

Lucas' impact in the industry is so wide spread that I don't think we'll ever see an end to it.

As far as the advancement of technology goes, there is no other technology evangelist with his power and level save for maybe Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc.


Thank you, addr0ck. I'm just hoping that this 3 D stuff is as good as it has the potential to be.


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If Lucas is pimping technology, with Cameron, Spielberg and newbie Jackson in tow... maybe some of the most important directors of sci-fi/fantasy material alive/of all time... I can't imagine it being bad.

Lucas, unlike any other person in Hollywood, is endlessly stubborn, and if he can't have his way in the theaters, he will open up a chain of theaters just to show his 3-D technology until he convinces the public.

That's just the way he is...


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addr0ck wrote:
If Lucas is pimping technology, with Cameron, Spielberg and newbie Jackson in tow... maybe some of the most important directors of sci-fi/fantasy material alive/of all time... I can't imagine it being bad.

Lucas, unlike any other person in Hollywood, is endlessly stubborn, and if he can't have his way in the theaters, he will open up a chain of theaters just to show his 3-D technology until he convinces the public.

That's just the way he is...


And Zemeckis too! I was glad to see that he is one of the guys there. If the most prominent filmmakers in the industry are all lining up, the rest will surely follow.


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addr0ck wrote:
Lucas' impact in the industry is so wide spread that I don't think we'll ever see an end to it.

As far as the advancement of technology goes, there is no other technology evangelist with his power and level save for maybe Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc.

I've never denied his impact. But that doesn't change my opinion of him being an average director and a poor script(dialog)writer. I find it a bit laughable calling someone who's collecting razzies with his movies "the greatest ever filmmaker".

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Maverikk wrote:
The rest of us can discuss the actually subject of the thread, something Nazgul has never been able to do.

Another day, another lie...

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addr0ck wrote:
Lucas, unlike any other person in Hollywood, is endlessly stubborn, and if he can't have his way in the theaters, he will open up a chain of theaters just to show his 3-D technology until he convinces the public.

The thing is that Cameron, not Lucas, is the driving force behind 3D cinema, so if anything it's Cameron's 3D technology.

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I've never denied his impact. But that doesn't change my opinion of him being an average director and a poor script(dialog)writer. I find it a bit laughable calling someone who's collecting razzies with his movies "the greatest ever filmmaker".


What's even more laughable, is that you have a very limited knowledge on what a filmmaker is, as was pointed out to you on page one of this thread. It's also laughable that the razzie voters do your thinking for you, as you actually named them as your credible source of validation...hahaha . Name a filmmaker that has done more than Lucas as a filmmaker, and list his credentials, and then I'll list Lucas', and we'll see how they stack up. If you can't do that, we'll just assume that you can't.


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Nazgul9 wrote:
Maverikk wrote:
The rest of us can discuss the actually subject of the thread, something Nazgul has never been able to do.

Another day, another lie...


And this thread backs me up perfectly, so save it...


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Maverikk wrote:
And this thread backs me up perfectly, so save it...

Read it again...

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Nazgul9 wrote:
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And this thread backs me up perfectly, so save it...

Read it again...


We all know, you trolled and then wanted to make it a "I love Peter Jackson" thread. Still waiting for you to show me a filmmaker who has a resume that even touches Lucas', and I'll bet I never see it from you. Game, set, and match on that one. :laugh:


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Maverikk wrote:
We all know, you trolled and then wanted to make it a "I love Peter Jackson" thread.

I didn't even mention Peter Jackson, weirdo...

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What's even more laughable, is that you have a very limited knowledge on what a filmmaker is, as was pointed out to you on page one of this thread. It's also laughable that the razzie voters do your thinking for you, as you actually named them as your credible source of validation...hahaha . Name a filmmaker that has done more than Lucas as a filmmaker, and list his credentials, and then I'll list Lucas', and we'll see how they stack up. If you can't do that, we'll just assume that you can't.

Well, you seem to be one the few people who are more concerned about the bells and whistles than the actual quality of the movie...

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http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?b ... =filmmaker
Main Entry: film·mak·er
Pronunciation: 'film-"mA-k&r
Function: noun
: one who makes motion pictures

The thing is Nazgul, whether I think you admit it or not, you are still arguing against the filmmaker moniker. We are still arguing definitions in a way. It's not really a question of what you believe...

Listen, I think even I wouldn't feel comfortable calling Lucas' last few scripts 100% great. If someone told me that Lucas was a fantastic dialog writer, there would definately be some head scratching, but there is sufficient real, honest-to-god factual evidence and more learned opinion than me or you that Lucas is indeed one of the greatest film innovators of our time, being that he creates these films to showcase them means that there is evidence to believe he is one of the greatest living filmmakers, or if you dispute that, definately one of the more important filmmakers. Just as Harvey Weinstien is also an important filmmaker.

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The thing is that Cameron, not Lucas, is the driving force behind 3D cinema, so if anything it's Cameron's 3D technology.

I would think that Cameron would probably disagree with you. But if anything, all these directors are moving together in rhythm to secure the future of their art and their enterprises. They are smart to band together, all of them. Being a maverick (no pun!) in the industry, like the Spider-Man boys or John Geta and his almost forgotten Matrix movies just insures that your technology goes absolutely nowhere.

WETA and ILM and the directors that work in and out of both companies and subsidiaries (wasn't WETA also going to work on Battle Angel?) are going to REAP the rewards of splitting the industry in two and having their pick of the thousands of projects that come their way.


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Nazgul9 wrote:
Maverikk wrote:
We all know, you trolled and then wanted to make it a "I love Peter Jackson" thread.

I didn't even mention Peter Jackson, weirdo...


Located on page 2...

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So Jackson was at ShoWest? First time i hear this...

No word of a Kong presentation, so what was he doing there, just hanging around with his moviemaking buddies? :???:


That was followed by an article in which you highlighted the parts mentioning Jackson. If you had any credibility, you would have lost it. #-o


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http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=filmmaker
Main Entry: film·mak·er
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: one who makes motion pictures

The thing is Nazgul, whether I think you admit it or not, you are still arguing against the filmmaker moniker. We are still arguing definitions in a way. It's not really a question of what you believe...

Listen, I think even I wouldn't feel comfortable calling Lucas' last few scripts 100% great. If someone told me that Lucas was a fantastic dialog writer, there would definately be some head scratching, but there is sufficient real, honest-to-god factual evidence and more learned opinion than me or you that Lucas is indeed one of the greatest film innovators of our time, being that he creates these films to showcase them means that there is evidence to believe he is one of the greatest living filmmakers, or if you dispute that, definately one of the more important filmmakers. Just as Harvey Weinstien is also an important filmmaker.

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The thing is that Cameron, not Lucas, is the driving force behind 3D cinema, so if anything it's Cameron's 3D technology.

I would think that Cameron would probably disagree with you. But if anything, all these directors are moving together in rhythm to secure the future of their art and their enterprises. They are smart to band together, all of them. Being a maverick (no pun!) in the industry, like the Spider-Man boys or John Geta and his almost forgotten Matrix movies just insures that your technology goes absolutely nowhere.

WETA and ILM and the directors that work in and out of both companies and subsidiaries (wasn't WETA also going to work on Battle Angel?) are going to REAP the rewards of splitting the industry in two and having their pick of the thousands of projects that come their way.


I guess it's safe to say we are wasting our breath trying to educate him on the facts, addr0ck. He's just going to continue trolling and making himself look foolish, so we might as well ignore him, and let him get on with his destiny.

As far as Cameron being the driving force of 3 D, he can't do it without the guy who is the driving force behind digital cinema. They are interchangable parts, which is clear from all the information available. Lucas appears to be very much a driving force behind it, and is even releasing Star Wars once a year in this format. (I can hear the complaiming about him raping our wallets again as I type. ](*,) )


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Not to derail the current argument but there's something I'm curious about if Lucas does stick with the 1 film a year schedule for the 3D rereleases beginning in '07.

It seems to me that if A New Hope is rereleased in '07, by the time they get to Sith in '12, won't the 3D technology be so far advanced that it'll beg for another rerelease starting with ANH.

I would almost prefer a release schedule similar to '97.


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Not to derail the current argument but there's something I'm curious about if Lucas does stick with the 1 film a year schedule for the 3D rereleases beginning in '07.

It seems to me that if A New Hope is rereleased in '07, by the time they get to Sith in '12, won't the 3D technology be so far advanced that it'll beg for another rerelease starting with ANH.

I would almost prefer a release schedule similar to '97.


I don't know. It's possible that this new technology is advanced enough to be viable for the next 20 years. I'd rather see him release both trilogies over a 2 year period too. I don't see any point in extending that over a 6 year period, as it would surely lose it's bite.


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Maverikk wrote:
Nazgul9 wrote:
Maverikk wrote:
We all know, you trolled and then wanted to make it a "I love Peter Jackson" thread.

I didn't even mention Peter Jackson, weirdo...


Located on page 2...

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So Jackson was at ShoWest? First time i hear this...

No word of a Kong presentation, so what was he doing there, just hanging around with his moviemaking buddies? :???:


That was followed by an article in which you highlighted the parts mentioning Jackson. If you had any credibility, you would have lost it. #-o

I knew you would bring this up... :roll:

This was trotally out of context, had nothing to do with this conversation about the greatest filmmaker or 3D.

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Actually, 2 years would be perfect if you take into account how long most large format films stay in theaters.

I guess a lot of this depends on how many theaters are outfitted with the new 3D technology.


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