How is it any less needed then yet another sequel?

Finally, a sane person!

I actually wanted the series to end with H20 and remain perfectly crystalized right there (a pipe dream, I know). Say what you want about directors like Miner and Rosenthal, at least they know how to make a "Halloween" film. Call the series mediocre too if it suits you, but the best films in this series have a certain familiar style and I, for one, will be pissed if Zombie screws with that. When I hear words like "re-imagining" thrown around, I get scared. "Re-imaginings" are how you end up with a blonde James Bond, a black Ralph Kramden, and an ape calling Mark Wahlberg a "damn, dirty human" instead of the other way around.

I'm assuming by that "certain familiar style" you speak of, you mean uninspired, tepid, and dull, right?

Seriously, both H20 and Resurrection looked like TV movies with dark lighting.

The Halloween franchise had become a safe haven for hack, no talent filmmakers to attempt to capture Carpenter's mood and style and fail miserably.

So maybe the great Rob Zombie can ape Carpenter more successfully.

That's all I ask...

I think you're missing the point.

You can call this a "re-imagining and re-invention" as long as you want, it seems like a flat out reMAKE to me.

I think that's safe to say.

The idea here is to not mimic the original. It's to create something completely new and different to start the Halloween name over again.

You need top stop thinking in the strict terms of typical movie rules where everything has to either be a sequel or a remake.

Why so? The redo of this movie seems like a perfect cash-in idea, which, by itself, is something that is typical of moviemaking nowadays.

Doesn't mean it has to be bad (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. Dawn of the Dead remake). It is just unnecessary.

I realize that. I thought the smiley would indicate my sarcasm.

I still hate the idea too...

I guess I'd rather have a pale imitation of Carpenter than to see "Halloween" become an honest to goodness 'Rob Zombie' film.

I've taken a new stance on remakes of late. For every shot-for-shot remake like Psycho and, judging by the reviews, The Omen... something like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Dawn of the Dead comes out and gives the story a new and, in some ways, better take on the story.

Sure there are a lot of crappy remakes, but they've rightfully been forgotten. The good remakes, however, have their own place in history. Look at The Thing, Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, The Fly...

Basically, If Zombie fucks up Halloween, it won't make the original any less of a classic, and the film will be remembered about as well as Halloween 6 (starring Paul Rudd). But if he makes a great film... we'll have another classic! It's win-win!

Again, you're assuming that HO1C and TDR are indicative of every film Zombie will ever make. That's ridiculous.

Why?!?

Because it's not a remake!

The originals also weren't great. Saying something like the new Charlie and the Chocalate Factory was better than the original is heresy.

I guess I have to confess to having a bias against Rob Zombie. I've disliked both of his films so far. Though I think I'm probably part of a rare sect of Horror fans who actually liked "House of 1,000 corpses" more than "Rejects" (it just wasn't scary). I also hate the "X-rated Hee-Haw humor" in both movies with a passion. People talk about how much more disciplined Zombie was with "Rejects", but I have to disagree. Granted, there weren't any "music video cuts" in the movie this time, but did you pay attention to the screenplay? All over the map...

I preferred the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to the original. Same goes for the remakes of Dawn of the Dead, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes.

Sure there are clunkers, even in the re-imagining stakes (Planet of the Apes), but so what? So long as Zombie tries something new I'll be happy.

How...random.

Not that I really care, because I hate hate hate hate hate all the godawful crapass Halloween sequels. Except H20, which is just mediocre, as opposed to disasters like the rest of them.

Anything that borrows the same concept with the same main character and adds a different backstory/different circumstances is a remake or a rip-off. Pick one.

Why is Batman Begins different? Because the backstory itself always existed, it just never was filmed.

It's not a matter of change. I just don't want the 'main series' ending with Resurrection. I'd have absolutely no qualms with the reboot idea if this was following H20.

Obviously, that's not Zombie's fault.

The reboot idea is. It's not like Resurrection had a powerful impact on the series. He could continue from it without any kind of implication on a story he wants to tell.

For my part, no more arguing. I'll just wait and see how it turns out. It must be well-knbown by now that I am not a big fan of the original Halloween. I just don't feel we need a redo of it. I'll wait and see how it turns out. For now, we can agree to disagree about the idea.

I think pretty much all the films, except 1,2 and 4 are pretty shit anyway. So I don't really care one way or another what they do with this. Halloween is the best horror film of all time in my opinion, so if Zombie is going to take this on, then he better be respectful to the original. I like House and Rejects, so I resepct him as a film maker, but this is hallowed ground he is walking on.

Hallowed ground?

In 1978-1979-1980...

Yes, hallowed ground. But, something dreaded happened in 1981. Carpenter got drunk and wrote a sequel (who he himself had no interest in making) tarnishing sacred ground.

Let's face it. This series hasn't been sacred since the original. Any series which delivers films such as H6 and H8 can't really be buried much further. You just can no longer consider this series hallowed - just hollow.

Hallowed ground has been messed with 7 times since... I see no difference in an 8th. I am just trying to be realistic. I may have felt differently younger when I liked the series more.

Continuity has been a lost cause for a decade; it just doesn't even seem necessary to continue off the original storyline anymore.

I assume they will not dismiss the original series; they will just make no mention of it. We have to know when this film will take place first before we can assume anything.