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 United 93 RT Tracking: 93% (114 Fresh, 9 rotten, COTC 97%) 
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Slant gives positive reviews to good films. Sure, they're a bit more picky than your average film-goer, but why is that such a bad thing to the point where there opinion has to be discounted? I think BKB is on to something about the majority of people being too afraid to criticize this film might they be labeled a traitor. Honestly, the trailer looked like total shit, so I'm having a hard time buying into the fact that the film is as good as these early reviews portray.


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35.4% 1's at IMDb? That's just pathetic regardless how one thinks the movie should've been made or not.

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The director made Bourne Supremency(which had over 85% RT) so maybe the reviews for United do sound legit as opposed to the reviews being afraid to speak up


Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:48 pm
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makeshift wrote:
Slant gives positive reviews to good films. Sure, they're a bit more picky than your average film-goer, but why is that such a bad thing to the point where there opinion has to be discounted? I think BKB is on to something about the majority of people being too afraid to criticize this film might they be labeled a traitor. Honestly, the trailer looked like total shit, so I'm having a hard time buying into the fact that the film is as good as these early reviews portray.


This has nothing to do with the movie because I have been against any 9/11 movies from their very conception (even though 93's trailer looked good to me).

But speaking of Slant...

Slant sucks. As simple as that. Probably the worst majors reviewers I can find out there.

They gave bad reviews to House of Sand and Fog, About Schmidt, your well-loved Stay, Red Dragon, A Beautiful Mind, The Barbarian Invasions, Batman Begins, Capote, Dances with Wolves, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Dawn of the Dead, The Experiment, In Her Shoes, In Good Company, Saw, Secretary, Seabiscuit, Shrek, Shaun of the Dead, Match Point, No Man's Land, Match Point, Oldboy, The Usual Suspects... The list goes on and on.

It really seems to me that they just like to bash otherwise pretty popular flicks.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
makeshift wrote:
Slant gives positive reviews to good films. Sure, they're a bit more picky than your average film-goer, but why is that such a bad thing to the point where there opinion has to be discounted? I think BKB is on to something about the majority of people being too afraid to criticize this film might they be labeled a traitor. Honestly, the trailer looked like total shit, so I'm having a hard time buying into the fact that the film is as good as these early reviews portray.


This has nothing to do with the movie because I have been against any 9/11 movies from their very conception (even though 93's trailer looked good to me).

But speaking of Slant...

Slant sucks. As simple as that. Probably the worst majors reviewers I can find out there.

They gave bad reviews to House of Sand and Fog, About Schmidt, your well-loved Stay, Red Dragon, A Beautiful Mind, The Barbarian Invasions, Batman Begins, Capote, Dances with Wolves, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Dawn of the Dead, The Experiment, In Her Shoes, In Good Company, Saw, Secretary, Seabiscuit, Shrek, Shaun of the Dead, Match Point, No Man's Land, Match Point, Oldboy, The Usual Suspects... The list goes on and on.

It really seems to me that they just like to bash otherwise pretty popular flicks.


There's only four or five films on that entire list that I would be upset by a bad review for.

Their 100 Essential Films list is great: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/featu ... lfilms.asp

Tenebre, Day Of The Dead, Hard Boiled, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, Pulse, Crash (Cronenberg's), The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Freaks all made it.


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MovieDude wrote:
I just got through that Slant review... What a mess (and I'm not talking about the film). Some of their biggest complaints are the title change and how they're giving ONLY 10% of the film's opening weekend gross to the World Trade Center Memorial Fund, the latter supposedly implying that the filmmakers think the passengers are only 10% humans. Still, my favorite part was how they rant about how because they didn't get the approval of the hijacker's families the film isn't fair.


lol, I think MovieDude's post about summed up how Slant is. Not only that, but they are also obviously, in my opinion, in many cases the type that loves to give many mainstream films rotten reviews, in order to appear "cultured" and "artistic" or whatnot. They just aren't real. I wouldn't really trust any of their reviews, whether positive or negative and whether for a mainstream or independent film, plus their reviews are terrible, a la what MovieDude pointed out.

Anyhow, update:

12 fresh, 1 rotten. 92% Overall, 100% COTC.

"With events as well known as these, Greengrass doesn’t need to sensationalize. The film is more powerful when he un -sensationalizes."
-- David Edelstein, NEW YORK MAGAZINE

"This is the best movie so far this year [and] I think it’s the most important film."
-- Richard Roeper, EBERT & ROEPER

PEACE, Mike.


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James' 4 out of 4 star review:

United 93 is a masterful motion picture. Its impact stays with the viewer; its images are hard to shake. In the years since 9/11, much of what happened that day has become ingrained in our culture. We have absorbed it. United 93 picks the scab and brings back the freshness of the wound. But the passage of time allows us to see the events of this film in a larger context. I do not use the phrase "must see" lightly (and there are those for whom this film may be too painful). Seeing United 93 represents a difficult film-going experience, and one that should not be undertaken lightly. It's hard to imagine anyone not being affected on some level by United 93. But the value of what this picture imparts is worth the challenge of sitting through it. When I compile my Top 10 list of films for 2006, United 93 will be on it, and almost certainly close to the top.

James Berardinelli's Full Review *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

PEACE, Mike.


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This thread reminds me of when The Passion of the Christ came out. Coincidentally, that was the first time I began posting at BOM. Good times. Fond memories.

I actually really enjoy the more meaty and emotional discussions around these movies. Makes more sense to me than having overly heavy disagreements over the latest hot-blonde-teen-doing-the-carwash flick, (though on occassion those reflect more than we care to admit). :-)

Thanks guys


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makeshift wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
makeshift wrote:
Slant gives positive reviews to good films. Sure, they're a bit more picky than your average film-goer, but why is that such a bad thing to the point where there opinion has to be discounted? I think BKB is on to something about the majority of people being too afraid to criticize this film might they be labeled a traitor. Honestly, the trailer looked like total shit, so I'm having a hard time buying into the fact that the film is as good as these early reviews portray.


This has nothing to do with the movie because I have been against any 9/11 movies from their very conception (even though 93's trailer looked good to me).

But speaking of Slant...

Slant sucks. As simple as that. Probably the worst majors reviewers I can find out there.

They gave bad reviews to House of Sand and Fog, About Schmidt, your well-loved Stay, Red Dragon, A Beautiful Mind, The Barbarian Invasions, Batman Begins, Capote, Dances with Wolves, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Dawn of the Dead, The Experiment, In Her Shoes, In Good Company, Saw, Secretary, Seabiscuit, Shrek, Shaun of the Dead, Match Point, No Man's Land, Match Point, Oldboy, The Usual Suspects... The list goes on and on.

It really seems to me that they just like to bash otherwise pretty popular flicks.


There's only four or five films on that entire list that I would be upset by a bad review for.

Their 100 Essential Films list is great: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/featu ... lfilms.asp

Tenebre, Day Of The Dead, Hard Boiled, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, Pulse, Crash (Cronenberg's), The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Freaks all made it.


They slammed Shopgirl too :)

And Cronenberg's Crash was C.R.A.P.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:

They slammed Shopgirl too :)

And Cronenberg's Crash was C.R.A.P.


You can't expect to agree with a certain critic or website every time out. I'm sure there are a lot of films out there that I liked that they didn't, and vice versa. For the most part, though, they seem to have an interesting take on nearly every film they review, and I agree with them a lot.

And no, Cronenberg's Crash is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.


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Any movie with the word "Crash" in the title is C.R.A.P.

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Oh, and they (Slant) have great music reviews.


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MikeQ. wrote:
James' 4 out of 4 star review:

United 93 is a masterful motion picture. Its impact stays with the viewer; its images are hard to shake. In the years since 9/11, much of what happened that day has become ingrained in our culture. We have absorbed it. United 93 picks the scab and brings back the freshness of the wound. But the passage of time allows us to see the events of this film in a larger context. I do not use the phrase "must see" lightly (and there are those for whom this film may be too painful). Seeing United 93 represents a difficult film-going experience, and one that should not be undertaken lightly. It's hard to imagine anyone not being affected on some level by United 93. But the value of what this picture imparts is worth the challenge of sitting through it. When I compile my Top 10 list of films for 2006, United 93 will be on it, and almost certainly close to the top.

James Berardinelli's Full Review *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

PEACE, Mike.


I'm really worried that I wont be moved by this film and that something is broken in my heart.


Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:35 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
MikeQ. wrote:
James' 4 out of 4 star review:

United 93 is a masterful motion picture. Its impact stays with the viewer; its images are hard to shake. In the years since 9/11, much of what happened that day has become ingrained in our culture. We have absorbed it. United 93 picks the scab and brings back the freshness of the wound. But the passage of time allows us to see the events of this film in a larger context. I do not use the phrase "must see" lightly (and there are those for whom this film may be too painful). Seeing United 93 represents a difficult film-going experience, and one that should not be undertaken lightly. It's hard to imagine anyone not being affected on some level by United 93. But the value of what this picture imparts is worth the challenge of sitting through it. When I compile my Top 10 list of films for 2006, United 93 will be on it, and almost certainly close to the top.

James Berardinelli's Full Review *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

PEACE, Mike.


I'm really worried that I wont be moved by this film and that something is broken in my heart.


The sarcasm is palpable.


Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:36 pm
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makeshift wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
MikeQ. wrote:
James' 4 out of 4 star review:

United 93 is a masterful motion picture. Its impact stays with the viewer; its images are hard to shake. In the years since 9/11, much of what happened that day has become ingrained in our culture. We have absorbed it. United 93 picks the scab and brings back the freshness of the wound. But the passage of time allows us to see the events of this film in a larger context. I do not use the phrase "must see" lightly (and there are those for whom this film may be too painful). Seeing United 93 represents a difficult film-going experience, and one that should not be undertaken lightly. It's hard to imagine anyone not being affected on some level by United 93. But the value of what this picture imparts is worth the challenge of sitting through it. When I compile my Top 10 list of films for 2006, United 93 will be on it, and almost certainly close to the top.

James Berardinelli's Full Review *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

PEACE, Mike.


I'm really worried that I wont be moved by this film and that something is broken in my heart.


The sarcasm is palpable.


I'm being dead serious. Dolce mentioned Passion, which is interesting because to this day, I still feel as if I'm the only person who wasn't moved by it.

I cry during ET and Fried Green Tomatoes, yet I have nothing to give to Passion and perhaps United 93.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
makeshift wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
MikeQ. wrote:
James' 4 out of 4 star review:

United 93 is a masterful motion picture. Its impact stays with the viewer; its images are hard to shake. In the years since 9/11, much of what happened that day has become ingrained in our culture. We have absorbed it. United 93 picks the scab and brings back the freshness of the wound. But the passage of time allows us to see the events of this film in a larger context. I do not use the phrase "must see" lightly (and there are those for whom this film may be too painful). Seeing United 93 represents a difficult film-going experience, and one that should not be undertaken lightly. It's hard to imagine anyone not being affected on some level by United 93. But the value of what this picture imparts is worth the challenge of sitting through it. When I compile my Top 10 list of films for 2006, United 93 will be on it, and almost certainly close to the top.

James Berardinelli's Full Review *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

PEACE, Mike.


I'm really worried that I wont be moved by this film and that something is broken in my heart.


The sarcasm is palpable.


I'm being dead serious. Dolce mentioned Passion, which is interesting because to this day, I still feel as if I'm the only person who wasn't moved by it.

I cry during ET and Fried Green Tomatoes, yet I have nothing to give to Passion and perhaps United 93.


I wasn't moved by it.

Did you have a religious childhood? Neither did I.

I think your cynical nature towards the plot of both of those films (Passion and United 93) is the reason you have a hard time getting emotional about them. Same here.


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To add, the reason why I think I won't be moved by United 93 is two-fold. One, the trailers did nothing for me. Superman Returns, huge goose bumps. United 93, nada.

The other part is that I don't believe the events depicted in the film are at all accurate. And if you don't believe in the ride, it's just Passenger 57 with a white cast of heroes.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:

The other part is that I don't believe the events depicted in the film are at all accurate. And if you don't believe in the ride, it's just Passenger 57 with a white cast of heroes.


This is what I was saying in my post above. You're cynical about the plot in United 93. I'm assuming you were (are) also cynical about the "plot" in Passion. It's hard to build up anything for a film let alone emotion when you don't believe it.

Let's roll.


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xiayun wrote:
35.4% 1's at IMDb? That's just pathetic regardless how one thinks the movie should've been made or not.

...and 37% 10's - so what? Polarization is nothing new in a 10-point rating scale, especially for a political movie like this...


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MikeQ. wrote:

Spoilers? OMG - don't tell me the film has a happy ending!!!


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I heard that the ending we get to see the flight 93 victims images on the clouds in the sky


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you all know the highjackers are still alive right?


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RT for this has inched up to 94%, with 15 positive reviews and still only 1 negative, along with 100% COTC.

Akeelah and the Bee is also going strong, at 82%.


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Yeah I heard, Allah heard their cries for help and sent 5 parachutes to them before the plane was about to head off to WTC


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