Aren't you people supposed to know something about movies?
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getluv
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Skyblade wrote: Michael. wrote: Skyblade wrote: Yeah, I think Charlie's Angels was the last time people were aghast at a sequel's performance. Keep in mind it still made two thirds of the first one, and the first Charlie's Angels was not the huge moneymaker folks claim it was. But that's the last time there was such a big media deal about a deprecation. This is a great example. Oh really Skyblade? Carhlies Angels wasn't the huge monespinner people claimed? Who claimed this exactly? Where was it claimed? In addition, where is the evidence to support this? Did you log the dvd sales and ancillary sell-offs? Wait, whats that, how many times has it been screened on TV now? Why I'd say i've seen it at least four of five times on TV. Why yes, that might suggest that the studio recieved a higher fixed sum for British tv to show the movie more frequently, just one of many cash sources no doubt flowing into the franchise. Maybe, just maybe, this means the internationally recognized brand of Charlies Angels actually DID make some money after all. Although you know, a sequel is generally never a good indication that the first movie was profitable. It's things like this, people just blatantly saying "Although this movie wasn't really the smash folks thought" and then never being able to back that kind of shit up which has forced me to almost completely withdraw from film chit chat. Charlie's Angels was arguably the most hyped movie of 2000, it cost something like 90 million dollars, and had a good deal of profit pariticipation. It made 125 million, and yes, a little more than that worldwide. It's good money for a sleeper, and really, I don't think anyone at Sony lost their jobs over it, but I'm saying that 125 million for a heavily advertised and highly expensive film doesn't really scream "We got a live one here folks". It wasn't a "megahit", a word the press did use for it. Likewise, sales and rentals weren't bad, but I'm pretty sure it was sub 50 million. That's not a cash cow. That's not "This is really building an audience". As for television revenue, that's kind of a moot point since most movies are sold to TV. If you want to take the route of "every movie's a winner", that's fine, but it really kind of renders any box office talk useless. My point was, there seemed to be a large amount of shock when Full Throttle made less than expected, as if Sony had struck a well that spat out gold coins when greenlighting the franchise. It made $264m worldwide. Factor in home video rentals, DVD sales and TV deals and you have yourself a very decent profit I feel, and it was well received so its kind of obvious why they opted for a sequel. The 12th biggest film of 2000 worldwide and 14th biggest in the US. and wasn't 2000 a bad year for Sony? Skyblade, Michael just used you as an example of many people who commit similar fallacies everyday.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:37 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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getluv wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Michael. wrote: Joe wrote: snack wrote: Dude, Michael, people do this for fun, not work. They can research to whatever extent they want.  I read this for fun, and reading shit like that on a daily basis is no fun any more. FIX IT people. I wouldnt really mind if people didn't get so pissy about it all and make such a huge deal about everything all the time. You might say its for fun, but there are people who take this stuff very seriously, and that's what im getting it - if everyone was blase about the thing I wouldn't have an issue, it's because people take it so effing seriously that it gets to me. Oh, so you're the problem it sounds like. you're one of the worst ones. I remembered on BOM how you basically had 56 posts a day or some shit, and you barely made 1 point a day. Damn straight!
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:46 pm |
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Skyblade
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If Michael's going to use me as an example of how the board turned so retarded, I'm sure as hell going to try to defend myself.
And I'm not saying Charlie's Angels was a flop. Yes, it had good wordwide numbers, it made money on all kinds of ancillaries. But so did Full Throttle. I'm saying that its status as a commercial entity was overvalued by the media which led to shock and dismay over the sequel's performance. I don't know why everything has to be either a bottomless ATM or a sinking ship.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:54 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Without even getting into this overall fairly inane debate...
Charlie's Angels was not the most hyped movie of 200. Certainly, not.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:01 pm |
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getluv
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Speevy wrote: getluv wrote: who the fuck are you? you people are very retarded. it's hard for us people with no heart to bend our ways. Silencing you is better.
Who gives a damn about what you think. I could care less about your or this silly retarded little rant by Michael. I don't care if you think I or anyone else on this website know nothing about movies. I come here to talk to about movies I like in my spare time. I'm not going to spend obscene amounts of my time learning every little thing about movies and make myself well known. So take your little pompous ass and get the hell out if this place irritates you so much. I could care less what you think of me. i've been here since the day you discovered that your dick can enter a vagina. i'm not say you should learn but you should take more into account before saying untrue statements. i think few of the best oens on here, like xiayun, do actually put a bit of effort into things and therefore get more respect from us.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:05 pm |
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Skyblade
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I don't think it was looked at as the movie of 2000, but I think it's the movie the mainstream press seemed to open its doors the widest for.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:05 pm |
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Speevy
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getluv wrote: Speevy wrote: getluv wrote: who the fuck are you? you people are very retarded. it's hard for us people with no heart to bend our ways. Silencing you is better.
Who gives a damn about what you think. I could care less about your or this silly retarded little rant by Michael. I don't care if you think I or anyone else on this website know nothing about movies. I come here to talk to about movies I like in my spare time. I'm not going to spend obscene amounts of my time learning every little thing about movies and make myself well known. So take your little pompous ass and get the hell out if this place irritates you so much. I could care less what you think of me. i've been here since the day you discovered that your dick can enter a vagina. i'm not say you should learn but you should take more into account before saying untrue statements. i think few of the best oens on here, like xiayun, do actually put a bit of effort into things and therefore get more respect from us. Hahaha. Who the hell died and you made the kings of this place. Sorry I couldn't care less if I get respect from you. Even interacting with a jackass like you is the least of my worries. Try getting your ass of the computer and enjoying a real life once in a while.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:10 pm |
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El Maskado
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getluv, refrain from attacking anyone and watch your mouth. Next time you will get a warning.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:12 pm |
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getluv
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Roid wrote: getluv, refrain from attacking anyone and watch your mouth. Next time you will get a warning. show me my personal attack please. if anything, i was personally attacked.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:19 pm |
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El Maskado
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Look at the posts you address to Speevy where you called him a retard
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:22 pm |
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getluv
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Roid wrote: Look at the posts you address to Speevy where you called him a retard as opposed to him calling me a jackass. diaf.
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:23 pm |
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getluv
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Speevy wrote: getluv wrote: Speevy wrote: getluv wrote: who the fuck are you? you people are very retarded. it's hard for us people with no heart to bend our ways. Silencing you is better.
Who gives a damn about what you think. I could care less about your or this silly retarded little rant by Michael. I don't care if you think I or anyone else on this website know nothing about movies. I come here to talk to about movies I like in my spare time. I'm not going to spend obscene amounts of my time learning every little thing about movies and make myself well known. So take your little pompous ass and get the hell out if this place irritates you so much. I could care less what you think of me. i've been here since the day you discovered that your dick can enter a vagina. i'm not say you should learn but you should take more into account before saying untrue statements. i think few of the best oens on here, like xiayun, do actually put a bit of effort into things and therefore get more respect from us. Hahaha. Who the hell died and you made the kings of this place. Sorry I couldn't care less if I get respect from you. Even interacting with a jackass like you is the least of my worries. Try getting your ass of the computer and enjoying a real life once in a while. your hilarious. i really just gave you an objective rank on how to measure how shitty a poster is. You get an award from Condolezza Rice.
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El Maskado
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reopened again but be warned for those that I have talked to
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