Damnit Groucho let me be a sly april fooler for once, curse the realm of differing time zones.

Wow, 5 deeply unlikable condescending pricks - including me - have voted in this poll already. I wish there were some more. Thus far, Tarkovsky is winning by a landslide. The Tarkovsky fanboys are all here, but where are the Eisenstein l00nies??

Tarkovsky. I have never really warmed to any of Eisenstein's work. But Tarkovsky is a visual genius, althought I would never recommend his movies to most people, they are not very accessible.

BTW, I took a look at Guybrush's top 100 list.

When you do a top 100 movies list and there aren't any movies in it that would be commonly popular and beloved by modern film audiences, or even by modern movie geeks, it's hard to not SEEM like someone who uses movies to establish an image. In other words: That list tells of a person who works hard in order to seem different and special as a person.

I've seen almost all movies on that top 100 list, and the list certainly come off like something that is set out to establish an image, not a list of true favourite movies. Logic dictates that out of a list of 100 movies there should be at least a few which are not either completely obscure flicks, or over 50 years old.

Now I don't know whether Guybrush is a kind of person who uses movies to establish an image of himself, since I don't know him. Maybe it's a 100% genuine, honest list. Who knows. But the list gives certain impressions.

I find it awkward that you seem to think a person's intentions, motivations and personality are completely defined by the inexperience and ignorance of that person's peers.

Hmmmmm......Eisenstein or Tarkovsky?.....Eisenstein or Tarkovsky?

I would say neither, Michael Bay beats them both with one arm tied.

In a wrestling match, yes. Just because the other two guys are dead.. and stuff. Michael Bay is good at raping and massacring the legacy of great directors anyway and therefore, this act would hold a deep symbolic meaning.

Ironically enough, by calling other film fans "inexperienced and ignorant" you managed to sound even more a kind of a person who does his top 100 movies list only in order to impress others.

Contrary to what you might want to believe, people are not either inexperienced or ignorant, if they are not aware of obscure movies. Their interests simply are elsewhere - They like different kind of movies. Finding out about obscure movies is EASY, especially in the time of internet.

Trying to compile your top 100 movies list out of movies that are not that popular or well-known among your peers doesn't make you experienced of knowledgeable as a person, or as a film fan. It's kind of information that is accesible to everyone. It's an equivalent of a Star Wars nerd trying to impress other people with his ultimate knowledge of everything related to the Star Wars universe. It might seem like important knowledge to him, and something that makes him special. But nobody else cares.

tuukka is pretty much the smartest person alive. Why don't you post more?

That said, while I doubt many will argue with the way Guybrush's list LOOKS (my initial thoughts were that he picked sixty or seventy great directors and then took their highest rated and most obscure film or two from each), it's pretty much impossible to say anything beyond how it "looks." Coupled with the fact that this thread isn't at all about his top 100, its probably best to let that stuff disappear. :o :o :o

By calling them "inexperienced", I simply meant that they don't know the films in question, without judging these people in any way. By "ignorant", I meant that they don't care to learn about those films and aren't interested in getting to know them, which, again, wasn't meant to judge anyone. I was simply stating facts, all of which are present in various postings in this very thread. You seem to jump to conclusions too quickly. Misinterpreting certain catchwords leads you to try and analyze an entire personality and, thus, do exactly what you're blaming me for. Therefore, what I've written before is still as valid as ever, if not more.

Guybrush, your total and complete dismissal of Michael Bay kind of reveals your true colors. Most serious (and truly knowledgeable) film people readily admit to Bay's standing as an auteur and an important filmmaker.

As for the poll question, Tarkovsky got my vote.

i'd agree with that. his films are truly unique and unmistakable.

On what page in the top 100 thread is Mr. McMurphy's list?

I want to see how many Pudovkin or Brakhage movies are there.

It starts here, Mr. Price:

http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=152009#152009

My very good friend Positive Jon posted it on the previous page already.

Yeah, I don't know you so I can only speculate. And it's not really an important issue anyway.

Speaking on general terms:

On a site like this people easily have a film-snob-bullshit-detector turned on. I'm not saying that you are a bullshitting film snob, but with the kind of an approach to movies that you have, people can get annoyed and suspicious. This is a heavily a B.O site, so obviously people in here embrace Hollywood mainstream entertainment along with more alternative movies, and someone who has an exaggarately "high-brow" taste in movies sticks out of the crowd in a negative light.

But admittedly I don't find myself comfortable in arguing what people really think, or think not. It's an entirely speculative process with no hard facts to back it up. So I'll withdraw what I said: I can't really know whether you are absolutely sincere in your opinions, so it's pointless for me to even try to debate about it.

Eh, that's exactly what I meant before. I don't feel the need to base my tastes on what others expect them to be.

I discuss the films I like and I don't see a reason to "hide" my taste, just because hardly anyone else at this very place shares it. This has never been a problem, since I've started visiting this site (and its predecessor(s)) in 2002. If liking films that aren't "mainstream" (btw, I do like alot of mainstream movies, too) puts me in a negative light, then that's definitely not my fault, but the fault of those who are, as said before, "ignorant" (not necessarily meant in a condescending, but rather factual, objective way, as in them not knowing the films and not having the desire to know them either).

It's odd how the Top 100 is brought up after 2 years anyway. In this thread here, I haven't been acting condescending, nor did I put anyone's taste or other directors down. I simply started a discussion on two directors, both of them well-known, not only among "filmsnobs", and both of them playing an important role in the history of film, with at least one of them being among my personal favorites. The condescending statements ("pretentious" and whatnot) were posted by others, with no reason whatsoever.

OK. I just read McMurphy's top 100 list.

There are 22 films from that list that I have seen, and 2 of them are also in my top 100 (numbers 30 and 31 in my list).
However, I feel shorts shouldn't been included in the list, but that is just my opinion.

Do I believe he has seen all the movies he lists? Yes.

Do I think those are his top 100? Yes. Why not?

I try to watch all type of movies, even the ones I feel I won't like. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I have to stick needles under my fingernails to be kept awake. And the same could be said by others of the movies I like.

You will see when my list is posted (after Magnus and Excel) that my taste tends to go to the mainstream, but that there are still about 50 movies (not obscure) that have never been posted in the top lists here. You will also see that I have a liking to certain particular genres.

Yeah, but there are probably a thousand "not obscure" movies that haven't been posted about here. :O

I'm the only person siding with Eisenstein here? Really? Watch Nevsky or Ivan again, ya freaks.

Solyaris is probably my favorite live action film of all time, so yeah...

tarkovsky has officially won because I, guybrushx mcmurphy, say so. discuss.

Guybrush started his list on February 20th, 2005... he ended it on March 11th, 2005

That's about 20 days... at about 5 movies a day...

But he did do 10 at a time until the Top 10...

that's a lie. i didn't start any lists this year. lies, all lies.

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