And you know something?? The Dialogue in the SW prequels isn't the greatest, but it's certainly not as bad as Lucas Bashers will say it is.. It once again boils down to being overly nitpciky on the fans part and thy'll never be satisified.. Tell you what: The last image I want to see at the end of ROTS, is George Lucas driving off in his Ferrari with his Middle finger high in the air at the nitpicky, ungreatful fans while on his way to the Bank$$.. That vision alone would be *PRICELESS*.. =D>

can't wait to see the trailer. it's gonna be awesome.

Honestly, for me the dialogue really isn't the problem, while it is not great, SW isn't known for great dialogue, this is not a Quentin Tarantino movie.

Howver, I think the real problem wiht the film lies in a lack of tension. Since these filsm are prequels, we know something about where the story is going. So for example repeatedly putting Amidala life in danger in the second film is boring...she hasn;t given birth yet she cannot die. I call this the "Aragorn over the cliff syndrome" after my least favorite scene in the TTT. In fact most of my problems with the major trilogies come from the fact that major characters are either never really in daner or they are in a completely false sense of danger. Like the scene in the second film where R2-D2 flies in to save Amidala and Anakin, that whoel scnene was just superfoulous and boring. I'd rather spend more time dealing with why we are here, to see Anakin become Vadar. The OT had some cringe worthy dialogue as well, but I never noticed because I was to busy caring about the outcome fo the story, in the prequels I notice the crigne worthy dialogue more because I am not as engaged in what is happening on screen. I've seen ESB hundred of times, yet the very soudn fo the imperial march still gives that "Vadar is coming creepiness," that kind of stuff is missing from the prequels.

A second problem I think is something that plagues the Simpsons, continuity of characters, do we need to see R2-D2 fly, if he can fly the whole first movie doesn't happen. Special efffects are the main draw in a Star Wars film, but in the first very movies I felt tthe effects served the story and there was less of "let's have htis just cause its neat." I may be nitpicking abotu the R2-D2 flying but that is what happens when I am bored in a scene I nitpick and notice little details.

Luc Besson taught himself how to be a director by going to see bad movies, when asked why he watched bad movies to learn he said something along the lines of, because with good mvoies you are to into to the story to notice the technical aspects. I am exactly that way, if I love a movie it takes alot of effort for me to detach myself enough to notice even basic things, but if I am at all bored i notice everything.

That said, they are still interesting to watch even if I don't really care for them. As a kid I used to wish I coudl see SW on the big screen, and I did get to see the OT on the big screen and I wanted to be alive for a new SW movie. I got my wish, I'd had just hoped they woudl turn out better. Maybe this third one will, since the focus ought to be on the one thing I care about, Anakin becoming Vadar.

Your "teenagers comments" was the only thing that drew me to the discussion, not the movies. You all can argue SW vs. LOTR vs. White Noise as long as you won't, I don't care...




There is a huge difference between enthusiasm and blind fanboyisch-ness. bABA is enthusiastic about Batman, no question about that, yet his discussions never get to the point your discussions get to? Seriously, Mav, I might have problems with Goldie, but how many people do you have problems with? It seems like there is a new one each day and it all starts out with movie discussion.





The "others"? Just from what I see, usually you are being the most persisitant one in arguments like this one.




I didn't say I discredit their opinions, I just don't like getting into arguments with them. They are too close-minded and persistant for my personal taste.




I wasn't respectful to you or others because of your age, but because I respected the person as a person. According to your arguemtns, it'd be fine for me to be disrespectful towards Zingaling and torrini since they are not older than me and teens as well, but not fine to be disrespectful to everyone older than me...? Also, frankly, I didn't see how torrino was disrespectful towards you or anyone on here.





Everyone can have an attitude of their own towards anyone they want. I mean, let's think...Fett is probably somewhat older than me, dos it mean I have to be respectful towards him because of that? I'd think Goldie is older as well, so I should respect him for that? I respect people for personality, not for their age. I give people attitude depending on what they do, not their age.

I don't see how we actually got to that discussion as we're talking about Maverikk's case on here and his comments, so I don't really see your transition...

Also, c'mon, my behaviour on the Goldie issue? Ask any single mod on here, how my behaviour is towards Goldie and his towards me. I avoid him, I don't go into his threads, I don't attack him. He is the one that keeps stalking me everywhere. You should have taken a look on the Meet the Fockers vs. POTC thread in the BO Bash forum where he started attacking me once again despite Zingaling and Eagle telling him not to do so. Over ten posts had to be deleted and that twice as far as I can recall. He is an idiot and will remain an idiot unless he seeks some psychological help or something.

Ripper, most of that factory scene in AOTC wasn't originally planned. If I remember correctly, it was a last minute addition to the film before it was released. I agree with you, it was a pretty bad scene for a number of reasons including the "Aragorn over the cliff syndrome."

R2 can not fly. #-o

Too much tinkering is a bad thing.

Maverikk brought up and I am merely saying I think he has a point.

You are ignoringhim now, but the signature crap was totally baiting him, in partiucalr the one that was in German.

Exactly, I mean why even add this, things like that jstu drive me nuts, with the 5 minutes spent on that scene, so many other things could have been done.

My other major problem with AOTC is that I don't feel convinced that Amidala would marry Anakin. It makes perfect sense for Anakin to love her, but just becuase they ahve kids, why does this involve marriage? I just didn;t buy that she'd marry him so easily, given that they have ot lie and she is concerned about his behavior after his mom dies.

That said, Christensen is a damn good actor, and actually the weak link int he chain in my opinion is Portman, who is stellar elesewhere but not su much so in this blue scene acting.

It was certainly not baiting the the German one stayed for around an hour.

Whether it was an hour or 100 years, its still baiting, backing down doesn't make any less of a bait.

I recall being there longer, but its not responsiblity to deal with this stuff.