Just to close the chapter on this book.

All avenues have been exhausted at this point between you and I. It's all been covered and I think everyone knows what happened, regardless of how you or I might choose to spin it. I don't feel the need to continue bringing it up.

I care not to read about myself in random threads in the future. It's all opinion and hearsay and off topic.

Exactly, if a person is an asshole, they'll act that wa regardless of how you behave. I used to try and reason with them. Now when I see them act as such I know I can freely discount everything they say in teh future as worthless. I only repsond to their posts when the make a factual mistake that I can prove wrong.

Assholes tend to give you many oppurtunities to make them look stupid without sinking to their level...I am very patient and evil :wink:



Its hard to fanthom anyone thinking bkb was anyone else, Brian is a creature all his own. Brian is very abrasive, so when you defended him yo got lumped into the "bkb fanclub." I enjoy your back and forth with bkb over M$B.

bkb can both take it and dish it out without being personal, it is partly why even when i want slug him, I get over it rather quickly.



I do notice, just don't fall for the bait when they try and start something knew, its not worth your time.



I think as this point some psoters are waiting around to argue with you, and they want to sling mud, in part because of someone of the lopsided mod issues, some of which have gone in your favors others which have not. People have a way of remmebring only when they are wronged.



I blame the mods more the you, they thread shoudl never have gotten past post two, you amde the thread a mistake, but by keepign it open they were encouraging you and loyal to fight some more. Great work there guys

AS for the signature, after they did nothing ab out lecter';s signature about Goldie and then Goldie signature about Lecter, loyal had every right to say, you cannto single me out and make me take mine down when Lecter can keep his.

The mods royally bothced the Lecter/Godlie situation, and not any sistuation with personal attacks is goign to follow that same piss poor model. They opted to do nothing, and so now if they do anythign else in the future, its looks mighty hypocritical without explanation.

Loyal took his signature down til he saw the thread you made, how the thread been locked and deleted, the situation with you and loyal could have been handled alot better, Both you and Loyal were heated and it was the mods job to step and put out the fire, not add fuel.

I am actually also irritated with any user who amde a comment in that thread, they all need to grow the fuck up and learn to stay out of it and that it is not their place to be disappointe din either one of you. Peopel fight all the time, and their is nothign worse then the peanut gallary shouting and egging it on, which is what they did.



And your treatment of Libs for example shows off your best side, like right away in the AI thread you apologized. Libs is the best mod here, and in that even when she is disappointed in what a poster says, she expressed disappointment without arguing with the poster.

The tv former is a nice happy place to discuss stuff, and its the one forum I always come to no matter what.



Yes, unfortunately given that mod refuse to have a real line in the sand abotu what is and what is not acceptable, anything goes around here.

With no steadfast rule, its hard for the community to even enforce a basic level of decency.



People forget that being mod takes some fun out of hte forums, you have to be the mature one all the time,e ven when the other guy sis calling you a dick. So far the mods here have not impressed with their abilitty to control or stay out of flame wars.



Done, I am in general goign to be more vocal about things that bug me around here, b/c either I staart saying what drives me nuts or I jsut stoppping coming here.

There are many a days when I prefer RT, and that;s says alot for my frustrastions here, considering at RT one has to woder if we do in fact have mods at all.

I apologize for bringign you up, I needed an example to make my point and you were the most recent one.

In Mav's defense, he did switch completely to PMing me about any issues and same for Loyal. Both know perfectly well how i felt about what happened and both were sent the exact same PM, with knowledge that it was sent to both. Both in one way acted with respect, both in some ways acted in disrespect and in light of my pms, i'm sure they both know what i'm refering to. What i was happy about at the end of the day is that once the topic was exhausted, I really respect the level of civility shown on the part of boths, even frequenting each other's threads and not passing indirect comments and with the now recent removal of Loyal's signature. I came very very close to asking all personal attack signatures to come off but i knew that was pretty drastic. I'm glad that they're now both removed out of choice, one later than the other.

woohoo i'm so happy! i knew it was gonna premier before robots. i might see robots after all.

Ripper, i left the thread open mainly cause i did not wish to censor comments made. If mav said something openly, i think loyal had every right to read it. I never enjoy people knowing something happened that concerns me yet never not having access to what REALLY happened.
2nd, after loyal's comments, i'd rather have everything contained in that 1 thread than spread out all over the forums. Closing that thread at any time beyond that would mean i'm just squashing any reasonable place for communication.

I cannot believe (infact i can believe it coming from some of you mental obssessed guys) that a thread has 6 pages about anticipation for a fucking trailer.

well, a lot of those pages are maverikk and torrino bickering back and forth at one another

silly me, i should have read them before posting that

haha it's cool. i just think it's funny that they used so many pages arguing back and forth

Ummm yeah kind of like that thread talking about Elektra vs Catwoman

HE SCORES!!

hey ROID, i wasnt the one doing the talking in that thread remember....

If loyal had every right to read it, lock it then, then he gets to read it. Leaving the thread open allowed from comments from the peanut gallery, well quite frankly I don't see the logic in that. The eventual outcome should not have have been surprising, heck if you had been dealing with anyone else would have been much worse. While it made for good drama during sweeps, other that there wasn;t a signel useful post in that thread.

Honestly I was not surprised the thread was left open, as I stated earlier the Goldie/Lecter situation set the tone for how such personal attacks will be handled.

While you might not like to censor, if people were capable of censoring themselves at such heated times we'd have no need for mods.

You freely admitted a few posts ago that it was taken to pm, I am saying you should have forced it to go there from the beginning.



Thus far I have yet to see anything but the "let them work it out themselves" approach.

You'd prefer six pages on Sly's magazine.



*bitchy mode*

Yes, we try to encourage the reading and exchanging of ideas around here, I mean at least glance at the thread content before posting, the thread is 6 pages long not a a hundred.

yeah, you've been having a field day with me today.



We've been at it over Fantastic Four as well. I hope to god that mold broke when he came out of it...lol I have never been, nor will I ever be, somebody who has more than one account going. That's another issue that I would like to see dealt with severely here, because sweeping such things under the rug, will only invite more people to take advantage of what they can get away with.



Easier said than done, but I'll practice some self control.



Well, keep an eye out, and you'll see when there is an unprovoked remark made. I promise it won't be from me.



He took it down now, so if Goldie and Lecter would change their sigs, maybe it would set a better example to all members, but I do agree that such things shouldn't be encouraged. If Lecter and Goldie were dealt with, it wouldn't be an issue. Our signatures should never be used toward any members. We're here to play nice, not to be petty.



The peanut gallery...lol

That is something that I didn't like. Public forum or not, better judgement needs to be used, and I'm not stupid to believe any comments were being made for any other reason than to fuel the fire.



She's an excellent mod, because she's very level headed. I'm spineless when she cracks that whip...haha Seriously, I have much respect for her, and wish I was more like her, so I try to behave when she catches me involved in that crap.

dolce is also a great mod, and she's starting to get that power over me too.

it has nothing to be with them being girls. :^o




I understand them being gunshy about things looking like a dictatorship because of Sean, but there has to be some rules. Most of the rules were not the problem, it was the way they were enforced. Some rules were childish, but most were ok.




I don't see many mods who are acting like mods, I see mods who do and say whatever they want, and when you are in that position, you have to change. It's the sacrifice you have to make. If you don't want to, then you aren't going to make a good mod. I would hate to think it's all about power tripping, with no care about the responsibility that comes with the position, but I've seen the lack of responsibilty more than a few times.




I do wish you would continue to voice your dissatifaction. Don't worry about who likes it. You voiced yours about me, and I'm still smiling, and hoping to do better. :grin:

Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm in Rare form tonight and not in a very good mood and with that, let me kick this off by saying torrino, your full of shit just like the rest of the idiot Lucas SW Bashers out there who use the term "CORNY" when describing the dialogue for the SW movies that face it: Who the hell REALLY focuses on the dialogue and acting in a movie like Star Wars where the FX showcase the movie's story and tell it through Visual FX??? It boils down to this: You and every person who bashes the fuck out of these movies WILL be in line this summer to see this whether you want to admit it or not and chances are, you won't admit it.. Now, moving right along to the next thread...

It bothers you that SW Fans treat the latest trailer like it's the Messiah??? Then how the fans who treat the BATMAN BEGINS Trailer like it's the Holy Second Coming??? You don't mind that now do you??? Speaking of BATMAN, I'm gonna go out on a large LARGE limb and say this movie will disappoint like all get out after the excerpt I read at AICN which just because it's me, I'm gonna post a thread about it as only I do BEST.. =D>

Anything to avoid my homework :wink:



Its nto ahrd to get aroudn the one account rule though, anyone with half a brain could do it.



That's all I am asking, see I am easy to please, well in some ways :wink:



Eye sir, and fele free to pm me, since I read less and less stuff outside the tv forum.



True, the chances of Goldie and lecter chanign the signature willingly at this point seems pretty slim

*gives them the stare down*



I had to use my nice term.



Exactly, if if some fo it bothed them, did anyoen make helpful comments...no.



You men just need to let us womenfolk run things.



Precisely, rules that are enforced uniformly and fairly work well.




I think to many of htem get into the name calling, that old leadership role is pesky in that you don;t get to call a spade a spade or an assholel an asshole..sucks, but you still get all the power.




I'm on a role now :wink:, so trust me I'll still be bitching tomorrow.

Who goes to see Star Wars for the dialogue? Really, if anyone does, they deserve to be disappointed.

I watch Star Wars for the incredible space opera it is and the cutting edge visual effects by ILM.

Hey leave us Batfans alone, we done nothing wrong. Go take it out in that King Kong thread or the lotr fans but leave us Bat fans alone because we are rather Batty. So when you say disappoint, theres still that one thread that Baba created about what we would do if Batman makes less than 200 million thats still open....

You might no go for the dialogue, but it coudl certainly drive a person away.

17 days to go w00t! w00t! 2+ minutes of geek overload.

=D> I mean, EXACTLY.. I've never been able to quite grasp the notion as to why someone would see these movies for the Goddamn dialogue... You want great dialogue, SW isn't it.. Go watch "The Shawshank Redemption" if you want that.. Also, I'm surprised that this thread has churned out 6 pages over Maverikk announcing the New SW trailer coming out which turned into a major fucking Flame War it seems over it..

The dialogue would need to be beyond awful to cancel out the visuals for me.