What To Expect In Star Trek XI
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STEVE ROGERS
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loyalfromlondon wrote: http://www.syfyportal.com/article.php?id=1764Jendresen: Star Trek Needs Epic Adventure
Author: Michael Hinman Date: 03-09-2005 Source: SyFy Portal Next year, it will be 40 years since Gene Roddenberry's vision of "Star Trek" first came to life on the small screen.
Through those years, there's been plenty of ups and downs for the millions of fans who have followed the adventures of Capt. James T. Kirk, Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, Capt. Benjamin Sisko, Capt. Kathryn Janeway, and even Capt. Jonathan Archer -- whose time aboard "Star Trek: Enterprise" ends early this May on UPN.
With Star Trek not pulling in the viewers and the revenue as it once did, is Paramount still willing to keep the Roddenberry torch burning?
Erik Jendresen thinks so. Name doesn't ring a bell? Soon it will, as he has been commissioned by Paramount to write the 11th Star Trek film. And for the first time in history, a new slate of characters, as well as a new cast, will be introduced on the big screen. But that's just the beginning of the new Star Trek.
"I can certainly say that the story concept, the basic idea of this thing, is pretty damn big," Jendresen recently told SyFy Portal's Michael Hinman. "It's a noble enterprise, pun intended."
Jendresen -- probably best known for his Emmy-award winning work as a producer and lead writer for HBO's "Band of Brothers" -- said he wasn't too interested in stepping into science-fiction. And when Paramount officials first came to him about doing Star Trek, his answer was an immediate no.
"I was not a diehard Star Trek fan," he said. "When they first approached me, I wasn't really interested. But they said, 'What if we could approach this as a blank slate, and here's a notion.' When I heard the notion, I realized that the people I was talking to were serious, and genuinely dedicated. I started to really think about it, and, ultimately to develop a story. And it's a pretty good one."
Reports of the next movie have it taking place after the events of "Star Trek: Enterprise" and before the adventures of James Kirk in the original "Star Trek" series. Jendresen confirmed that the movie would take place more than a century before Kirk, but acknowledged that it would not be an "Enterprise" spinoff.
Although he had only some passing knowledge of Star Trek in the past, Jendresen said he really started to look into the heart of Roddenberry's vision to find the lost path of telling good science-fiction.
"I read an interesting piece online about the relevance of Star Trek," Jendresen said. "It posed the idea that maybe it's not relevant anymore. It was an impressive argument, but a fine story is always relevant, and I think solid storytelling that's rooted in the absolute spirit of the original series is what it was all about to begin with."
The original series you say?
"In the original series, there were big ideas, and they were delivered each week with a lot of verve," Jendresen said. "The crew in particular, lead by a commanding officer who had a certain sense of timeless style, boldness and vision. He had a pioneering spirit, the spirit of all great explorers, that was captured by the original series."
After the original series went off the air in the 1960s, Jendresen said a lot of that was lost, with a few exceptions. And now that four decades have passed, he said it's time to find it again.
"'Star Trek,' the original series, borrowed in an often elegant way from classic mythology and great ancient storytelling," he said. "There's something kind of epic - almost mythic about the prequel (movie)."
Bringing in Jendresen was an attempt to go outside of the current realm of Star Trek, and focus more on an actual story, Jendresen said. It's similar to what happened in the early 1980s when Nicholas Meyer came on board to create "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." There was a realness about it, and moviewatchers had to stop and think.
But that's something that doesn't have to be relegated to the past.
"There's an old tradition in space films, if you think about it, where war and conflict are very sterile," Jendresen said. "Death doesn't hurt, it's not really ugly. You can get killed by a phaser and just … disintegrate.
"We're going 160-odd years before Kirk is born. It's an earlier time, and I think it would be really refreshing to feel something in the course of telling this tale, instead of being wowed by special effects, or presenting another crew in jeopardy where, in the end, the captain does something brilliant, and all’s right with the world.â€Â
And that means not everything will end with a chuckle, laugh and some smiles when this film is over.
"By the end of this story, everyone isn't fine," Jendresen said. "I can safely say as a storyteller with certain standards…my intention is literally as a writer, as a storyteller, as a filmmaker, to go boldly where no one has gone before."
With the cancellation of "Enterprise," and reports of what actress Jolene Blalock (Cmdr. T'Pol) described as an "appalling" finale, Jendresen said he's well aware that there's a lot of anger out there. But he said he definitely is working on something that fans can look forward to.
"There is a lot of misinformation out there, negative speculation and ill-will,†Jendresen said. "Everybody just needs to just take a Romulan chill pill and have some faith. Everything that has gone down over the last few years has not been lost on the gentlemen involved in this effort. I think it would be wonderful to bring a whole new generation into this world."
In the meantime, while "Star Trek XI" moves forward in the pre-production stage, Jendresen is staying busy with other projects. He recently wrote "Journey to thte Center of the Earth" for Twentieth Century Fox, and has worked on other screenplays for Paramount, Dreamworks, and even National Geographic Feature Films.
Reports have "Star Trek XI" being released sometime in 2007. No director and no cast has been brought in, but it is clear that characters from other Star Trek properties will not be included.
:laugh: I'm sorry, but come on.. Do we REALLY need another Star Trek movie after the last 2 abysmal bombs??? Seriously??? Hell, even Trekkies have to agree on that 1.. It's over..
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Nazgul9
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Well, it can't get much worse than ST9 and ST10 in my opinion. So, yeah, i'm all for a new approach, starting over with new people, fresh ideas.
Hmm... "epic", "grittier" - sounds good. 
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:20 pm |
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zingy
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PLEASE. No more Star Trek movies. They suck. [-o<
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FILMO
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I dont know. Stark Trek is over. Watch the last movies and series. They have to do something really special to bring it back.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:43 pm |
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Starting over from scratch is a good idea. But I'm not a huge fan of the old wild west version of space travel.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:45 pm |
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Maximus
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Bwahaha. BKB, with the worst taste in films EVER, bashes Star Trek too. Oh, the hypocracy. It hurts.
Really.
Alright. Star Trek XI Will probably suck. I really am trying to remain optimistic, as I love Trek.... but, um, so long as Rick Berman touches this franchise, it will suck. And now that he has gotten his revenge on Trekkies by writing that godawful finale for Enterprise, I truly am afraid of what he is going to do to fans this time. I mean, the writer of the flick wrote the DTV Inspecter Gadget sequels. Heh.
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bABA
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give me star trek!! Feed my trekkie nerdiness!!
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El Maskado
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It needs a woman captain in the lead. Im not a big fan of Star Trek but the ones I do find interesting was TNG and the one with Kate Mulgrew. I also dont want none of the freaky female alien/cyborg crap where they dress an attractive actress with heavy makeup. I couldnt stand Jeri Ryan ever since she appeared in the series Dark Skies. Jolene Balock is ok in a weird way
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:16 pm |
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Maximus
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T'Pol is hot. Erm, I mean Jolene. Teehee.
And who can forget the numerous Season three topless episodes. Ahh, memories!
Beautiful.
Okay, I'll stop.
But seriously.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:39 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
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zach wrote: Bwahaha. BKB, with the worst taste in films EVER, bashes Star Trek too. Oh, the hypocracy. It hurts.
Really.
Alright. Star Trek XI Will probably suck. I really am trying to remain optimistic, as I love Trek.... but, um, so long as Rick Berman touches this franchise, it will suck. And now that he has gotten his revenge on Trekkies by writing that godawful finale for Enterprise, I truly am afraid of what he is going to do to fans this time. I mean, the writer of the flick wrote the DTV Inspecter Gadget sequels. Heh.
First of all, I have just as good of taste as the next person around here, Thank You very much and YES, the prospect of another Star Trek totally reeks, especially after the last 2 movies which bombed probably as bad as Catwoman did.. It's over Berman..
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:40 pm |
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Maximus
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BKB_The_Man wrote: zach wrote: Bwahaha. BKB, with the worst taste in films EVER, bashes Star Trek too. Oh, the hypocracy. It hurts.
Really.
Alright. Star Trek XI Will probably suck. I really am trying to remain optimistic, as I love Trek.... but, um, so long as Rick Berman touches this franchise, it will suck. And now that he has gotten his revenge on Trekkies by writing that godawful finale for Enterprise, I truly am afraid of what he is going to do to fans this time. I mean, the writer of the flick wrote the DTV Inspecter Gadget sequels. Heh. First of all, I have just as good of taste as the next person around here, Thank You very much and YES, the prospect of another Star Trek totally reeks, especially after the last 2 movies which bombed probably as bad as Catwoman did.. It's over Berman..
Well, the taste aside, we do agree. This movie will suck. I'm sorry, but Berman is poision. See, for you AvP fans, that would be like a competent diector making your AvP sequel. It would probably piss you off, too, because you WANT shittyness. Only for Trek fans, we want the opposite. Too bad Berman is still around. Really. I wish he would drop dead.
And Nemesis still wasm't a bomb of Catwoman proportions. Insurrection was definately NOT a bomb. It made more than it's production budget, which I would consider mediocre. Do you call Starsky & Hutch a flop, because it only topped its budget? Meh, whatever. Nemesis still sucks, and Insurrection was still a let down, regardless of BO Performance. Don't get me started on Berman's TrekLite.
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Maximus
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Seriosuly, Loyal, do you follow Enterprise at all? I know once I sent you a PM on the cancellation, but you never responded....
If you are, I'm sure you know about the apalling finale in works? Blech. Don't get me started.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:47 pm |
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Squee
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He should try to bring back the spirit of Deep Space Nine, instead. That's the best star trek series.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:52 pm |
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Maximus
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Hah. As much as I love DS9, that won't ever happen either. Berman hates DS9. He never, ever wanted to turn it into what it became. It's totally the red-headed step child of the franchise, as Berman REFUSES to do anything to acknowledge the show even existed. I would love a DS9 project..... but that's about as likely as DeForest Kelly rising from his grave to film another TOS sequel. Shame, too.
This prequel will flop so hard.
I'm embarressed to be a Trekkie.
Oh, Oh, Oh, and "These Are The Voyages" is the name of the ENT Finale according to Star Trek.com
Wowza. What a shitfest of an idea. Get this. Riker, and Troi, on the Enterprise D, walking through the Enterprise on the holodeck. Yes, that makes no sense. But, thanks to Berman, thats the Valentine the fans get. Lovely. And I won't talk about the death of the show's best character. They hate Enterprise fans, too. They hate them because they refused their shitty Voyager prequel and embrassed Manny Coto's TOS prequel.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:57 pm |
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Maximus
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loyalfromlondon wrote: zach wrote: Seriosuly, Loyal, do you follow Enterprise at all? I know once I sent you a PM on the cancellation, but you never responded....
If you are, I'm sure you know about the apalling finale in works? Blech. Don't get me started. I've followed Trek seriously since TNG (I'm a Trekker). I wasn't sure how to respond to your PM. I've read about the ending and it's pretty high concept, evoking memories of Dallas and Bob Newhart finales.
Okay. Just curious.
I hate the finale. I think I said that up above. Heh, Valentine my ass. What's your opinion of Berman-subsidized Trek? I think it used to be great, but the man, like Dan Rather, has just got to go. He's messed things up enough. And now Paramount wants to put Trek in the closet for a while? Phooey.
And my PM was just to tell you about Trek United. I wondered if you knew anyone to share it with. It was before it got do damn big. Lol.
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zach wrote: Hah. As much as I love DS9, that won't ever happen either. Berman hates DS9. He never, ever wanted to turn it into what it became. It's totally the red-headed step child of the franchise, as Berman REFUSES to do anything to acknowledge the show even existed. I would love a DS9 project..... but that's about as likely as DeForest Kelly rising from his grave to film another TOS sequel. Shame, too.
I guess that's why it was so good. Had such a DIFFERENT feeling to it than any other star trek series (though I havent watched Enterprise) The last couple of seasons with the Dominion, very very good.
The Next Generation had the best character (data) and the best captain (picard) Deep Space 9 had the best storylines and the best overall cast. I dont hate anyone in the deep space 9 cast, but I really didnt like Troi, or Dr Crusher that much in The Next Generation.
Voyager was the worst.
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Maximus
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Nny wrote: zach wrote: Hah. As much as I love DS9, that won't ever happen either. Berman hates DS9. He never, ever wanted to turn it into what it became. It's totally the red-headed step child of the franchise, as Berman REFUSES to do anything to acknowledge the show even existed. I would love a DS9 project..... but that's about as likely as DeForest Kelly rising from his grave to film another TOS sequel. Shame, too.
I guess that's why it was so good. Had such a DIFFERENT feeling to it than any other star trek series (though I havent watched Enterprise) The last couple of seasons with the Dominion, very very good. The Next Generation had the best character (data) and the best captain (picard) Deep Space 9 had the best storylines and the best overall cast. I dont hate anyone in the deep space 9 cast, but I really didnt like Troi, or Dr Crusher that much in The Next Generation. Voyager was the worst.
I definately agree. Yeck, you should check out the last Enterprise episodes that start in April. If Loyal has seen them, he can confirm the episodes of S4 have been an improvement over, well, anything since DS9 went off the air. But don't watch that finale.
As far as I am concerned, Terra Prime is the finale of ENT.
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Maximus
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I've never had a huge issue with the stewards of Trek. You can only reinvent the wheel so many times, I don't think there was a need to continuously add to the franchise, Trek isn't Law and Order. If anything, Trek cannibalized itself.
700 episodes is hard to work with. Internal Continuity and Canon prevent writers from being bold. And fans like me can be real assholes. I just feel that fresh blood always helps. I think thats why I am enjoying the shows this season much more.
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Nazgul9
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Nny wrote: He should try to bring back the spirit of Deep Space Nine, instead. That's the best star trek series.
Agree! DS9 was hands down the best Star Trek series (one of the reasons being it borrowed concepts from Babylon 5 - my favorite "space opera"), then comes TNG, with Voyager 3rd. Haven't yet got the chance to see much of Enterprise...
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Erendis
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High concept or not, this new Trek movie will have to overcome the curse of the Odd-Numbered Star Trek movie. And if the last two movies bombed, then this Trek would have to overcome the Even AND Odd-number curse.)
I'm not too hopeful.
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bABA
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it took me years to appreciate the greatness of DS9.
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Nazgul9
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bABA wrote: it took me years to appreciate the greatness of DS9.
Better late than never. 
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