Sizzling new Elektra clip
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andaroo1
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I just looked up the credits for the Cinematographer after I said ("it looks like television cinematography")
It is unsurprising what I found:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0736200/
As primary Cinematographer, this is his first feature. He came from television. hehe
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:16 am |
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El Maskado
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andaroo wrote: Naturalflux7 wrote: YES PLEASE Trailers and Clips THATS what i wanted to hear opinions about. Not the premise. It's a little bit ironic that you say the cinematography is great and pass that off as a justification without providing any reason why it is great in your opinion. So here are specifics... Look at the chunky lead up to the kiss, the stolen Matrix like slow mo pan around the kissing ladies, the Hero-stolen leaves effect. When the leaf-lady is walking towards the little girl there is absolutely nothing threatening about it (should there be?). The poor lighting on the girl (last second). It's not "the worst I've ever seen" but there is nothing in this clip (or the previous one) to suggest that this could be considered "great cinematography". It's television cinematography. You average episode of CSI has better. The costumes are horrible. The leaf-lady looks as if she just walked out of a Tulsa hair salon. Everybody else is dressed in dark blacks and dark dark blues making everything monochromatic. Scenes without dialogue are supposed to contain a lot of facial acting and drama, and while you can tell that Garner is definately the one here with the most experience. It does not excuse the "boyfriend" character or the really, really awful little girl (who is evident not only here but in the trailer). Elektra has the same pout on her face at :02 seconds as she does at :28 seconds. There is no menace to either of the "bad guys". The forced sexualization of the fight in general is completely laughable, although many teen boys may have many countless nights finding pleasure with it and a some Crisco. It's not errotic. So there is your reasoning.
Dang you just described Charlie's Angels:full Throttle except you sub some scenes with other movie clips!!
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:46 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I can't deny that this movie doesn't remind me of Daredevil, which I own... solely because of Jennifer Garner... oh, and it was less than 10 dollars for 2 discs. Shit, that was a good deal. Anyway, I'm hoping it isn't just another Daredevil. The time will soon be here to find out.
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:43 pm |
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El Maskado
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Oh well since my intent is to annoy the fans of this movie I should take a page from a certain user ad start typing in bold and use annoying laughing faces to berate the movie.
:laugh: :laugh: :Grins: You think the studios didnt learn their lesson when Daredevil bombed :Grins: Yet they try to make a spinoff to a movie that bombed and no one cares about :laugh: :laugh: . Why do you think they moved the movie from April to January? They thought the movie would get lost among those April releases but its not any better to put the movie in the worst month of the year :laugh: :laugh: I look at this movie and Catwoman but I dont see any difference. The people who want to see the movie are blinded by their affection for Garner :laugh: :laugh: If they have a movie about Garner mopping floors all day, the same people would pay to see it :laugh: :laugh: . The movie will bomb and it will trail behind Coach Carter and Racing Stripes. Even if it doesnt, I will guarantee that it will drop 65%
One other thing, Paul Anderson forever!!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Rant mode off :laugh:
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:42 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Oh well since my intent is to annoy the fans of this movie I should take a page from a certain user ad start typing in bold and use annoying laughing faces to berate the movie.
:laugh: :laugh: :Grins: You think the studios didnt learn their lesson when Daredevil bombed :Grins: Yet they try to make a spinoff to a movie that bombed and no one cares about :laugh: :laugh: . Why do you think they moved the movie from April to January? They thought the movie would get lost among those April releases but its not any better to put the movie in the worst month of the year :laugh: :laugh: I look at this movie and Catwoman but I dont see any difference. The people who want to see the movie are blinded by their affection for Garner :laugh: :laugh: If they have a movie about Garner mopping floors all day, the same people would pay to see it :laugh: :laugh: . The movie will bomb and it will trail behind Coach Carter and Racing Stripes. Even if it doesnt, I will guarantee that it will drop 65%
One other thing, Paul Anderson forever!!!! :laugh: :laugh: Rant mode off :laugh:
Shit, if she was in a nice outfit, it would be nice to watch. But... maybe not. :wink: 
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:45 pm |
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Michael.
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BKB ......
Andaroo, CSI dosent have cinematography like that, most of those zoomy panny shots are done in CGI. The costumes are TRUE to the comic books, because all the comic geeks ever freaked out when Elektra was wearing black in Daredevil.
And wheres the "fight" that the forced sexualisation comes from. Its a KISS, A kiss of death. There was no fight....
And furthermore....the whole fact that you picked on some cinematographer for seemingly no reason at all apart from showing hes had years of experience on an award winning television show just makes me question "what was the point in that?" Really? Your thinking that because the cinematographer of the matrix films isnt onboard that the way is shot can be any better/worse. The fact that this guy hasn't done any bigscreen work really yet means that he could be excellent OR horrific. And from what ive seen its very well done and framed.
Im just finding way too many holes in peoples reasonings for not giving films a chance. But i wont get into it any more.
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:09 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Overall, people definitely are not giving this movie a chance. I made the mistake of already hating Catwoman before I saw it, and I hated it. I'm not saying it wasn't bad, but my grade may have been a bit higher if I didn't go in with a bad feeling as it was. It's evident people will hate it, if they say it's going to suck, because it would have to be awe-inspiring to change it now. I'm trying to go into movies with unbiased opinions now. It's just a bit tougher when it stars a favorite actor (Bill Murray, Life Aquatic) or actress (Jennifer Garner, Elektra).
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:18 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
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Mr. X wrote: Overall, people definitely are not giving this movie a chance. I made the mistake of already hating Catwoman before I saw it, and I hated it. I'm not saying it wasn't bad, but my grade may have been a bit higher if I didn't go in with a bad feeling as it was. It's evident people will hate it, if they say it's going to suck, because it would have to be awe-inspiring to change it now. I'm trying to go into movies with unbiased opinions now. It's just a bit tougher when it stars a favorite actor (Bill Murray, Life Aquatic) or actress (Jennifer Garner, Elektra).
Hell, welcome to the wonderful Cynical World of the Internet Ladies and Gentlemen where movie reviews are based more on a "Follow the Leader" type of pattern in seeing who can outdo one another in a pissing contest over who can pan a movie the worst.. WHITE NOISE is a prime example of this along with AVP to.. Both great movies that were Pre-Shit because both didn't have the Cast of the O.C in it and both weren't directed by Uber Cool Fanboy Type of Directors like Cameron or Scott.. It's a Beautiful thing isn't it??? =D>
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:27 am |
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MovieDude
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Naturalflux7 wrote: BKB ...... Andaroo, CSI dosent have cinematography like that, most of those zoomy panny shots are done in CGI. The costumes are TRUE to the comic books, because all the comic geeks ever freaked out when Elektra was wearing black in Daredevil.
And wheres the "fight" that the forced sexualisation comes from. Its a KISS, A kiss of death. There was no fight....
And furthermore....the whole fact that you picked on some cinematographer for seemingly no reason at all apart from showing hes had years of experience on an award winning television show just makes me question "what was the point in that?" Really? Your thinking that because the cinematographer of the matrix films isnt onboard that the way is shot can be any better/worse. The fact that this guy hasn't done any bigscreen work really yet means that he could be excellent OR horrific. And from what ive seen its very well done and framed.
Im just finding way too many holes in peoples reasonings for not giving films a chance. But i wont get into it any more.
De nial ain't just a river in Egypt :razz: And I AM giving this movie a chance, I'll be seeing it opening weekend.
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:31 am |
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andaroo1
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Naturalflux7 wrote: Your thinking that because the cinematographer of the matrix films isnt onboard that the way is shot can be any better/worse. What I'm saying, because you don't seem to really get it, is that there is no artistic goal in this motion picture. It's entire existence is a matter of it's commercial appeal. The question becomes, why are you so steadfastly supporting what appears to be mediocre clips of a movie that has no purpose in the world except to make money. What I'm saying is it is derivative, and if these clips represent the movie (which they are trying to do) then this project doesn't deserve praise. Quote: The fact that this guy hasn't done any bigscreen work really yet means that he could be excellent OR horrific.
I said his clips weren't "horrific", it's just bland. You wanted critque on the clips, I don't CARE how the movie turns out, these are comments regarding the CLIPS. Clips that have done nothing except represent the movie as utter tripe. Yeah, they could have picked the wrong clips... sure.
I'm done with you.
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:36 am |
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MovieDude
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Oh, and here's the first OFFICIAL review from rottentomatoes.com. Guess what? They said exactly what my older brother did:
http://themovieboy.com/directlinks/05elektra.htm
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