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 What Won / What Should Have Won 
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Here are my subjective choices as to what I would have voted for.

What WonWhat Should Have Won
1928WingsThe Circus
1929Broadway MelodySteamboat Bill, Jr.
1930All Quiet on the Western FrontAll Quiet on the Western Front
1931CimarronCity Lights
1932Grand HotelScarface
1933CalvacadeKing Kong
1934It Happened One NightIt Happened One Night
1935Mutiny on the BountyMutiny on the Bounty
1936The Great ZiegfeldModern Times
1937The Life of Emile ZolaLost Horizon
1938You Can't Take it With YouThe Adventures of Robin Hood
1939Gone With the WindThe Wizard of Oz
1940RebeccaThe Grapes of Wrath
1941How Green Was My ValleyCitizen Kane
1942Mrs. MiniverSullivan's Travels
1943CasablancaCasablanca
1944Going My WayDouble Indemnity
1945The Lost WeekendSpellbound
1946The Best Years of Our LivesIt's a Wonderful Life
1947Gentleman's AgreementMonsieur Verdoux
1948HamletThe Treasure of the Sierra Madre
1949All the King's MenAll the King's Men
1950All About EveSunset Boulevard
1951An American in ParisAn American in Paris
1952The Greatest Show on EarthSingin' in the Rain
1953From Here to EternityFrom Here to Eternity
1954On the WaterfrontRear Window
1955MartyMister Roberts
1956Around the World in 80 DaysThe Searchers
1957The Bridge on the River KwaiWitness for the Prosecution
1958GigiTouch of Evil
1959Ben-HurSome Like it Hot
1960The ApartmentPsycho
1961West Side StoryJudgment at Nuremberg
1962Lawrence of ArabiaLawrence of Arabia
1963Tom JonesTom Jones
1964My Fair LadyDr. Strangelove
1965The Sound of MusicThe Sound of Music
1966A Man for All SeasonsA Man for All Seasons
1967In The Heat of the NightBonnie and Clyde
1968Oliver2001: A Space Odyssey
1969Midnight CowboyButch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid
1970PattonM*A*S*H
1971The French ConnectionA Clockwork Orange
1972The GodfatherThe Godfather
1973The StingAmerican Graffiti
1974The Godfather Part 2The Godfather Part 2
1975One Flew Over the Cuckoo's NestOne Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
1976RockyTaxi Driver
1977Annie HallAnnie Hall
1978The Deer HunterThe Deer Hunter
1979Kramer verses KramerApocalypse Now
1980Ordinary PeopleThe Empire Strikes Back
1981Chariots of FireRaiders of the Lost Ark
1982GandhiET
1983Terms of EndearmentThe Right Stuff
1984AmadeusAmadeus
1985Out of AfricaBrazil
1986PlatoonPlatoon
1987The Last EmperorEmpire of the Sun
1988Rain ManRain Man
1989Driving Miss DaisyDo The Right Thing
1990Dances with WolvesGoodfellas
1991The Silence of the LambsThe Silence of the Lambs
1992UnforgivenMalcolm X
1993Schindler's ListSchindler's List
1994Forrest GumpPulp Fiction
1995BraveheartThe American President
1996The English PatientFargo
1997TitanicAmistad
1998Shakespeare in LoveSaving Private Ryan
1999American BeautyAmerican Beauty
2000GladiatorCrouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
2001A Beautiful MindThe Fellowship of the Ring
2002ChicagoThe Two Towers
2003The Return of the KingThe Return of the King
2004Million Dollar BabyKill Bill 2
2005CrashMunich
2006The DepartedThe Departed
2007No Country for Old MenNo Country For Old Men
2008Slumdog MillionaireThe Dark Knight
2009The Hurt LockerInglorius Basterds
2010The King's SpeechThe Social Network
2011The ArtistHugo

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Post Re: What Won / What Should Have Won
As a disclaimer, I must admit that I have not seen all the films on the "what won" list ... but based on what I have read, I can't imagine that, for instance, "The Greatest Show on Earth" is better than "Singin' in the Rain."

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1990 Goodfellas
1991 The Silence of the Lambs
1992 Unforgiven
1993 Schindler's List
1994 Pulp Fiction (toss up with FG since both stand the test of time so far)
1995 Bravehear (American President? Who even remembers that film?)
1996 Fargo
1997 Titanic (AmiNO)
1998 Saving Private Ryan
1999 American Beauty
2000 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (no Doubt!)
2001 The Fellowship of the Ring (yes!)
2002 Chicago (I agree with this)
2003 The Return of the King
2004 Sideways (love this film)
2005 Brokeback Mountain (EZ)
2006 The Departed
2007 No Country for Old Men
2008 The Dark Knight (snubbed but Yes)
2009 Avatar (no one saw THL and it made nothing) 2.7 Billion to Nothing. Money Matters...
2010 Inception
2011 The Artist (no qualms after I watched it)


On another note, I watched the Midnight Cowboy today and while it was certainly interesting and Voight gave a wonderful performance. It was up against Butch Cassidy...C'mon MAN!

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Post Re: What Won / What Should Have Won
Of the films that were nominated:

1990 Dances with Wolves
1991 The Silence of the Lambs
1992 A Few Good Men
1993 Schindler's List
1994 Forrest Gump
1995 Braveheart
1996 Jerry Maguire
1997 L.A. Confidential
1998 Saving Private Ryan
1999 American Beauty
2000 Gladiator
2001 Moulin Rouge!
2002 The Pianist
2003 The Return of the King
2004 Sideways
2005 Munich
2006 The Departed
2007 Atonement (though this is a three-way toss-up)
2008 Slumdog Millionaire
2009 The Hurt Locker
2010 Inception
2011 Hugo

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Pre-1970, I couldn't give a rat's ass. Of the post-1970 nominated films, I would have chosen:

1970-1974 Null vote

1975 Jaws
1976 Rocky
1977 Annie Hall
1978 The Deer Hunter
1979 Kramer vs. Kramer
1980 The Elephant Man
1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark

1982-1987 Null vote

1988 Rain Man
1989 Field of Dreams
1990 Goodfellas

1991 Null vote

1992 A Few Good Men
1993 The Fugitive
1994 Forrest Gump
1995 Braveheart
1996 Jerry Maguire
1997 As Good As It Gets
1998 Saving Private Ryan
1999 The Green Mile
2000 Gladiator
2001 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
2002 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
2004 Ray
2005 Brokeback Mountain
2006 The Departed
2007 No Country For Old Men
2008 The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
2009 Inglourious Basterds (flip a coin scenario; Up in the Air lost)
2010 The Fighter
2011 The Descendants

But seriously, all of the movies that did win, should have won.

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Algren wrote:
But seriously, all of the movies that did win, should have won.

Crash?


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Algren wrote:
But seriously, all of the movies that did win, should have won.

Crash?

All movies. If a movie won, then it deserved it. These awards are voted on. If Crash won, then it won fair and square, therefore in my mind; yes it should have won. I wouldn't have chosen Crash if it were up to me, but it wasn't.

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You do realize that a lot of votes are made not on the merits of the movie, but on names, friendships, etc.? That's why lobbying is a very important part of an Oscar race.


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I do. My opinion still stands.

Perhaps you hold the Oscars in higher regard to me. The integrity of the Oscars should be called into question, not the deservedness of the winners. If they get enough votes, they deserve to win.

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Algren wrote:
I do. My opinion still stands.

Perhaps you hold the Oscars in higher regard to me. The integrity of the Oscars should be called into question, not the deservedness of the winners. If they get enough votes, they deserve to win.

No matter what our opinions on Oscar are, it's still the highest honor in the movie world today.

I'd compare the fact that some movies come into the race with bigger chances for winning due to their pedigree and not due to their comparative quality to a race where an athlete has an advantage over the others due to using some drugs. It might not be enough to win every time, but sometimes that extra push can just skew things into a completely unfair direction.


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be.redy wrote:
No matter what our opinions on Oscar are, it's still the highest honor in the movie world today.

It is regarded highly, but I've never cared much about it. Reputation is much more important, in my opinion. That level of respect a film gains that cannot be quanitified, but you just know it's well-loved .. that's important and a bigger statement of a films' quality than any Oscar win. And the best thing is that it's different for every person.

Then comes Oscar. Then box office. User grading sites, RT, imdb etc. all come a distant fourth. That's the way I see it.

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You have to also realize that with five nominees, that means a film can win with only 21% of the voters thinking that it's "best". Even less with nine nominees.

That's hardly a consensus.

So to say a film "deserved" to win doesn't always square with me.

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That's the system that the Oscars uses, so if a movie wins with 21% of the votes, then it is deserved. It's not like this is a new system.

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