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 Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For BP In 2011 Assuming we have the exact same enviroment (Box Office, Critical Response, Precursors , Crackerjack Supporting Performance), will the AMPAS bite and nominate The Dark Knight sequel for BP.
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STEVE ROGERS
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? loyalfromlondon wrote: Assuming we have the exact same enviroment (Box Office, Critical Response, Precursors , Crackerjack Supporting Performance), will the AMPAS bite?
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Rorschach wrote: Nope, unless it gets released in December. Then it has a chance.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Rorschach wrote: Nope, unless it gets released in December. Then it has a chance. Warner Bros announced TDK the summer after Batman Begins. If they follow the same path, we may hear an announcement in 6 months. I wouldn't go for a Summer either. I (WB) would make my intentions crystal clear and release it in December.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? loyalfromlondon wrote: Rorschach wrote: Nope, unless it gets released in December. Then it has a chance. Warner Bros announced TDK the summer after Batman Begins. If they follow the same path, we may hear an announcement in 6 months. I wouldn't go for a Summer either. I (WB) would make my intentions crystal clear and release it in December.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? It's called release strategy. It's been an Oscar practice for a long time.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? loyalfromlondon wrote: It's called release strategy. It's been an Oscar pratice for a long time.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Rorschach wrote: The thing is though is that Hobbit is coming December 2011/2012, and is being released by WB. So I really don't think TDK2 would come out in Dececmber in those years.
So unless Nolan & Co. decide to wait five and a half years and come back in Dec. 2013, we're looking at either a summer 2011 or 2012 release for the sequel. And let's be real, The Hobbit films would be an Oscar priority for WB, there's no way they would even think about pushing a Hobbit film and TDK2 in the same award season.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? loyalfromlondon wrote: Rorschach wrote: The thing is though is that Hobbit is coming December 2011/2012, and is being released by WB. So I really don't think TDK2 would come out in Dececmber in those years.
So unless Nolan & Co. decide to wait five and a half years and come back in Dec. 2013, we're looking at either a summer 2011 or 2012 release for the sequel. And let's be real, The Hobbit films would be an Oscar priority for WB, there's no way they would even think about pushing a Hobbit film and TDK2 in the same award season.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? MR. GREEN wrote: Let me ask you something: I sort of consider you the ultimate LOTR's fan, so do you feel that The HOBBIT should be broken up into 2 movies for being such a simplistic story when compared to the LOTR Trilogy cause it sounds to me by doing this, their trying to milk this thing for everything it's worth when breaking it into 2 parts which is really unnecessary?? It's hard to say. There's enough filler available from the Tolkien estate to make that film and its obviously an attractive goal to bridge The Hobbit to Fellowship of the Ring. But without knowing what Del Toro and Jackson (along with Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens) have in store, I can't answer that question. Business wise, yeah, shit, they should make 3 Hobbit films. Why not?
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Rorschach wrote: Nope, unless it gets released in December. Then it has a chance. _________________ Retroviral VideosA film-based project created for the purpose of helping raise awareness about HIV/AIDS, specifically in South Africa.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? LOL, no.
Not even with a December release date.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? No. Too much of TDK relied on Ledger... Whether because of his performance or otherwise to even speculate that the reception will be on the same level, let alone assuming the environment is the same.
WB was smart to go with Del Toro. If Jackson was directing I wouldn't consider Hobbit had a serious chance (too much of a been there done that) but with Del Toro... Whose Pan's was noticably viable for Oscar... The have a better shot.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? What if Christian Bale dies before the film's release?
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? TDK was all about the performances. The story was too simple.
Maybe they could get it nominated... but I seriously doubt it.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Not a chance.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? After this year, anything is possible. And I think some of you are brushing it away too easily. I bet if someone asked after Batman Begins if TDK could be nominated, should all the stars and planets align just right, you still would've said no. Of course... you would've been right. But if you had been asked if it could come close to a nomination, you would've said no.
Point is, the climate could be just right: weaker competition, everything working just right (great script, great acting, great Nolan direction, etc etc etc.), the critics and audiences loving it, and the Academy unable to ignore it this time. It could even be a make-up for snubbing TDK.
Of course, all of those elements have to happen. Lightning can strike twice.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? The competition was weak. Really wweak. Otherwise something other than a movie with 60% at RT have gotten in instead, I suppose.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? I can't imagine the competition ever being this weak again for a film like TDK. There were no big-name, old reliable films or directors in the fray. And as Rorschach pointed out, WB now has bigger fish to fry with the 2 Hobbit films coming out.
Warner Brothers release date plans for TDK2 will be very telling.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? I thought Hobbits were still stuck in 2012 and could easily go 2012/2013.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Well no.
But if one of its stars dies again, still no.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? On top of the no Ledger thing, I have a hard time seeing TDK2 living up to the massive expectations it'll have. It can very well be great, but to ignite the passion and excitement for a BP run that TDK had, it'd have to be BETTER than TDK in a lot of eyes. Just not sure it's possible to one up the bar at this point. Think it's much more likely TDK2 falls to the 3rd superhero film curse
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Shack wrote: On top of the no Ledger thing, I have a hard time seeing TDK2 living up to the massive expectations it'll have. It can very well be great, but to ignite the passion and excitement for a BP run that TDK had, it'd have to be BETTER than TDK in a lot of eyes. Just not sure it's possible to one up the bar at this point. Think it's much more likely TDK2 falls to the 3rd superhero film curse
Don't take that as "My God, yes it will be nominated!". I really mean EVERYthing has to come together. Weak competition, amazing movie, four star reviews. But it did happen once... and people will still be pissed about the TDK snub.
If all else fails, one of us will push Nolan down a flight of stairs. They can't ignore a director with a broken neck. Double the points if Bale goes down with him.
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? If a perfect storm like TDK couldn't do it, how likely could a more perfect storm happen?
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Re: Will The Dark Knight Returns Be Nominated For Best Picture? Anton Chigurh wrote: If a perfect storm like TDK couldn't do it, how likely could a more perfect storm happen?
I didn't say it would absolutely happen. I just said it could. There's obviously a great chance it will come together, we'll all be saying "I can't believe it's happening AGAIN!" and The Reader 2: Read Harder will steal the nomination.
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