Now I know when folks see this, they'll say this is a typical BKB TDK bash thread, but this isn't.. I was listening to a show on 97.1 FOX Talk Radio here in St.Louis that's on every saturday from 2-4 called "Max On Movies" and the host who's name is Max is a tremendous TDK fan.. He had confidentally predicted that TDK would be nominated for BEST PICTURE cause he felt that the movie really was THAT good, good enough that it should've got the nomination and was shocked to hear and see that it wasn't.. He offered a really good reason as to why it wasn't and said that the movie as good as it was, was really a downer and not a feel good type of movie that the members of the Academy generally go for.. He went on to say that for BATMAN 3, That Christopher Nolan should make it more lighthearted like BATMAN BEGINS was, but keep it on the same quality as TDK was and that if Nolan does this, that perhaps the members of the Academy will come around next time out and perhaps give this movie a BEST PICTURE nomination if they use these ingredients.. Would all of you agree with this assessment that it could be done this way or not?? I honestly don't recall BEGINS really being all that lighthearted and remember that it too was as serious in tone as TDK, with maybe subtle hints of humor that only hardcore fans would've caught and not your typical moviegoer not a fan of the comic or Nolans touch at it.. Would you agree with this???

it was no more of a downer than No Country for Old Men or The Departed or There Will Be Blood or Million Dollar Baby or Mystic River or Capote or almost all of the recent BP noms. How dark it was had nothing to do with it.

Wow, one reply and the thread is already over.

I think if you take way the fact that he's a superhero dressing up as a bat and instead make him an investigator/journalist, you have a BP nom on your hands.

Pretty much.

The only comic books movies worth taking seriously are the ones that don't take themselves seriously.

That statement is pretty wrong. Comic books can be taken as seriously as any other kind of literature, depending on which you pick.

note "movies." at least mainstream ones.

The Godfather wasn't exactly the feel good movie of the year! The academy loves "good" movies, regardless of the emotion they bring.

I have absolutely no idea how they could snub it for a throwaway. None.

But if you manage to adapt the comic book well enough, there should be no difference. Watchmen is utterly serious. And had it been in the hands of someone other than Snyder, it could have become pretty excellent too (mind you, it might still be, but Snyder is not the directing genius that the comic deserves) and yet taking itself serious.

I'm telling ya, three reasons:

1. Weinstein
2. British fraction in the Academy
3. Minghella and Pollack both died last year

pretty much. ^

Yeah, and it was your reply that caused it to be over..

That's not fair BKB.

You brought up a reason for the TDK snub you heard on the radio that you thought was valid.

But if you'd really thought about for even a few seconds and look at a list of previous BP nominees, actually being dark is a benefit, not a hinderance.

If what your saying is true, then why did it get snubbed then for a movie that damn near beat TITANIC not to mention the fact, it had great reviews all around?? Wouldn't one think that if a movie made 531 Million Domestically, it would be a shoe in for BEST PICTURE with Ledgers performance or even BEST DIRECTOR For the guy responsible for it??

It boils down to the fact that Chipmunky or whatever the fuck name he refers to himself as, offers absolutely nothing in terms of logical replies to any thread that I've ever seen.. He has this follow the leader mentality..

I don't have the answer and unless AMPAS members speak up (unlikely) or we see nomination votes (even more unlikely) we'll never know.

But I didn't think the purpose of the thread was for us to offer explanations. You offered yours which was swiftly debunked. You wanted to know if we agreed and no one does.

This thread must be a joke.

It has to be a joke because your 'clear cut reason' is awfully stupid.

Oh, for...

There were plenty of reasons why TDK was snubbed. Being a downer was not one of them.

You do realize, BKB, that the movie that likely knocked TDK out of the Best Picture race was about illiteracy and the Holocaust? Happy times, for sure.

You aren't funny anymore. Go attention whoring with something more creative.

I have nothing in common with Munky and Waker of Winds.